Eugene Armstrong Beheading and Death Video
Very disturbing and graphic video of Eugene Armstrong getting executed by beheading. Eugene Armstrong was an American civil engineer in Iraq.
Responsibility for beheading was claimed by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and his militant group. The video was originally posted on an Arab Website.
Al-Zarqawi is believed to be linked to al-Qaida and he is believed to be the person reading a statement in the video prior to the execution.
While the statement is being read, Eugene Armstrong is seen rocking his body nervously back and forth and from side to side. As soon as the last sentence was finished, the militant pulled a knife, grabbed at sitting Eugene Armstrong and started cutting his throat. Terrible scream fills the room as bound hostage is being mercilessly beheaded.
The masked killer picked severed head up and placed it on top of dead, headless body.
The speaker said that the beheading of this one was just a beginning and that others will see the same fate unless all Muslim women that are held prisoners are released.
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shows the aniamls we are fighting. all the american public should have to see this! so the whiners and the ones downing our soldiers would think twice!
I thank all the soldiers that have given the ultimate sacrafice, and the ones who are there.
May God speed.
mom of son serving
fucking sick! They have no fucking heart
omfg that is FUCKING gross
I had to watch it several time cos i couldnt believe what i was seeing. The bastards, i just cant see their logic. Fuking Muppets
Don’t think for a second that the bastard americans haven’t done equally horrible things to the people or Iraq.
That’s “of”, not “or”, sorry.
Amazing that these people are the ones pointing their fingers at other countries and calling them uncivilized. *This* is uncivilized.
They enjoy doing this. Under any other circumstances these men would be considered serial killers. Doing it under the banner of politics & religion makes them terrorists.
And every time they hide behind masks and hoods like cowards.
i joined the military for this i fucking hate those hadjes
It’s just sick. Those killers are soulless. Go America destroy them. But be smart.
They are cowards hiding behind those masks.
oh my?god didnt say to kill a person like that but israel soldiers should see this video couse also esrael have no heart.(RIP)
Jesus christ, the sound of that mans screams are gonna haunt me for a very long time. You can hear when they are cutting through his voicebox as his screams become more high pitched
i can’t believe he lived so long through that. It seemed even when he was almost fully beheaded that he was alive. or was that some sort of bodily reaction, (the sounds I mean)
Another reason to support the war.
Let them not die in vain!
Beheading is funny. Anybody ever feel Eugene Armstrong choke on his own bile while watching his life flash by, as a pack of jackals cut his throat with a dull knife? These people shit where they sleep. Fuck your god.
How we can say that islam is a religion of peace after watching this ??
mother fuckers!
those assholes will rot in hell, may the wrath of a thousand fleas infect their balls. burn i say burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Screw you lassa kongo or what ever your fucking name is!!!
this is just painful to watch… why couldn’t they just make it quick?
either way its horrible, and I can’t see how anyone could do this to another human being…
Yeah, and ISLAM people play the victim. Mother fuckers. I can’t even begin to tell you how much this fucking hurts to watch. Animals, they’re animals, thus, they should be treated like animals.
this is so disgusting
they are monsters
What a bunch of cowards, hiding there faces. Fucking make me sick, treated this poor man like an animal.
These men aren’t animals, animals don’t have the thought process to know that what they’re doing is wrong. They act soley on the instinct to survive.
These men know exactly what they’re doing is wrong, they’re Monsters, not animals.
Would be a lot more enjoyable if the guy wasn’t trying to breath so much. And I mean for me watching…not some sort of SPAGHETTI! THAT’S MAMA LUIGI TO YOU!
Insane..
I can hardly watch this. I feel like puking
Let’s stop pussyfooting around and bring the Muslim World to its knees…nuke Mecca! Nuke Medina! Nuke Tehran! Fuck them all, and their paedophile prophet!
This is why there is war. This bullshit has been going on for millenia (obviously more recently it has been televised). No human being deserves to have their head cut off while they are still alive. No person deserves to be as scared as that man.
Fuck the whole lot of them for being cowards and lower than animals.
Thanks for good post
when the enemy is captured in any war they should be fucking tortured, for shit like this. i swear to god if i could go back in time, cath hitler, i would fuck him up so bad.
This is cruel and sick and the same could happen here they are getting all our laws scrubbed and want everything there way brittian is getting to soft if they do not like our life style and laws then go home I am not racist but every where you go they break some law or other
I love how muslims defend actions like this.
Such as the cock here:
“# Lasse Kongo Says:
October 6th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Don’t think for a second that the bastard americans haven’t done equally horrible things to the people or Iraq.
”
When did a group of ‘bastard americans’ capture an Iraqi lorry driver just doing his job not hurting anyone and cut his throat in the name of God.
Dumb cunt.
Jesus, what is this obscenely awful shit? Its the sounds, the sounds that Eugene makes, that will be resounding and haunting forever in my mind. How the fuck do those deluded and psychotic fanatics of a non-existing deity, sleep at night? What is it that these people strive for to solve, by cutting the throat of an innocent lorry driver? Is it really for anything, but to embrace their merciless devil within them? I don’t see another alternative, and I am not a man of supernatural beliefs…
Yes ok, it is fair to say the US have been the culprits of mass atrocities. Many people have suffered gruelling fates, as the US and the UK have continued to bomb and decimate iraq. Blah, blah, blah, its war endure it I guess…So this is retaliation, a justified response carried out to prove exactly what; to stoop to the ‘oppressers’ level, to follow by example of ‘infidels’? It just doesn’t make any sense! Unless its looked at very simply: resentful imbeciles capture a man, kill him for kicks because they know nothing of valuing human life. Their Warped minds throughly influenced by a smellier load of shit, than the one that passed between my bum cheeks a few hours ago. Fucking deluded douchebags…im so sick of Islam and how backward and unprogressive it wholly is.
I fucking hate these terrorist mother fuckers. i dont give a shit even after the war is over. fuck the sand niggers.
No amount of virgins promised to you by a fake fuckin god (Allah) could make anyone do this. Unbalanced mother fuckers..
KILL ALL OF THE TERRORISTS!
AMERICA FOR LIFE
HOAHH!!
I’m speachless! I can’t believe what I just saw! I like to think of myself as one of God’s creatures. I like to think that my life is no more important than anyone elses nor is it more important than the animals we share this planet with. I treat my dogs as I would a child, so the references that have been made here regarding the inhumane treatment he received and comparing it to that of what would be appropriate for an animal, well… I take offense to that. That aside, getting back to the topic at hand. This wasn’t just inhumane! It wasn’t just evil. There is no word in any dictionary to describe what was performed there. No god would wish this on anyone! I live in America where I am free. Free to make choices and one of them is the freedom to choose which religeon I want to follow, or I also have the right to reject any religeon and beleive this is it. I choose to live my life as a Christian. My Creator is a loving God and wishes his flock to live peaceful and productive lives, not kill one another. I know the scripture says to turn thy cheek, but the Bible also says, God helps those who help themselves. Is this left up to us to decide which path to follow? After seeing this and knowing this is not an isolated case, I have only two words to say… GREEN GLASS! Nuke those S.O.B.’s and turn their God forgotten dust bowl into GREEN GLASS, not to be “opened” for 50 years! Too much time and too many lives (innocent lives) have been lost fighting a battle that can not be won. NUKE EM!
OH, and they bitched about guantanamo bay. Rest in peace Eugene. I was going to say, if there is any justice in the universe, their fate would rest in your hands, but I doubt you’re diabolical enough to come up with anything remotely appropriate for these band of cowards!!
I couldn’t sleep last night after seeing that undescribable image of Eugene Armstrong being beheaded. I guess I wanted to see out of curiosity. I think it’s human nature to want to know more and understand death. “Can we get a glimpse of what’s to come from someone about to take that step?” The answer is no. If there was such a glimpse these MONSTERS wouldn’t continue to act in such a ___________ way. I left that blank on purpose. There is no word that describes such EVIL! Al-Zawahiri was nothing more than shit beneath our shoe! I have lost any tolerance for this jihad bull shit! Take your Jihad and get the fuck out of the US sand nigahs!
Sorry for the mulitiple posts, I just feel so compelled to get this all out before I die from high blood pressure! To all the men and women who risk it all so we may be free… Freedom is not free! and I want each and every one of you to know you are VERY MUCH APPRECIATED! May God walk with you and protect you while you risk so much. You and your families should be very proud, I am! Please don’t ever doubt your mission there. You’re simply carrying out orders. Orders that protect the sane from the insane. When you “pull the trigger” (whatever form that comes in) remember all those who have fallen for no reason! Anyone who believes in Jihad should pay by suffering. Let’s not rest until they are all burning in HELL!
Al-Zarqawi was the headsman in the video (or so he claimed- what is absolutely factual is that it was his group who conducted the kidnappings and murders of the 3 contractors). For those who didn’t know, less than 2 years later, a couple of 500lb bombs crushed that pig and at least one of his aides. One step closer to wiping these culturally retarded clowns off the fucking grid.
well i havent watched the video as i dont think i have the emotional strength to do so but i do have to say this. from what i read of what this video is about, it disgusts me! i am not religious and i dont believe in a god but i do think its dumb to say FUCK a whole religion based on these terrorists you see. just like some crazy christians kill others in gruesome ways, this time it was muslims. there are still a lot of muslims and christians out there who believe that we have to live in peace and not make war so i do think its a little narrowminded to hate a whole group becuz of some people that are bad in there. you wouldnt hate the whole white race if one white person killed you family so how is this any different?
How come Muslims do not CONDEMN this sort of behavior?
What would happen if the blood that got on the cocksucker that cut his throat got aids?
I don’t personally know anything about the Muslim’s ways or religeon. I understand that there are some seriously fucked up people in all walks of life. Color, race, belief systems … That’s why I don’t identify myself with any one religon but rather believe in “common sensce.” Christian based but no particular denomination. (Lets face it, if I had a child, the last person I’d ask to babysit would be a Catholic Priest
That was a joke! A sick joke admitidly but a joke just the same. Getting back to my ignorance to the ways of the Muslims… I’ve heard a lot of quotes coming from their scriptures and it sounds like hate not peace? There are those who hate Americans and yet live amongst us! I understand the freedom of speach, but …? You don’t like the US? GET OUT! I’ll drive yo ass to the frickin airport! (one way of course!) Bitter sweet that, that bitch Al-Zarqawi is dead. He deserved to suffer, but I’m sure he’s doing that now! Him and his 72 vigin horny male elephants! 
May his suffering NEVER stop!
amature
Paul…Muslims do not condemn this kind of behaviour becuz unlike North America, if muslims in the middle east stand up for anything, they get killed. there is no such thing as prtoest or freedom of speech unless youre asking for your head on a silver platter!
i just cried, this is so horrific…
his screams were horrible…
how can anybody do this to other people?
these sick fucks will get what’s coming to them someday
I’m glad those assholes are suffering, how do they not feel any sympathy for that man? It isn’t like it’s his fault for whatever caused them to do that to him. He was innocent, they aren’t.
Does anybody else hear laughing as soon as it cuts to the part where they start cutting his neck? Am I imagining things? If its laughing, that’t just really jacked up.
i feel sick. but this is war. this is men. this is what human do to each other over land, women, oil, amenities. this is reality. and those idiots above who have a poor grasp of the english language and an even looser grasp on reality are fuelling the issue. just look at the racism. if a christian person, or an american, british, woman, child or dog did this, that would not be an automatic indictment of the whole race/species/gender/agegroup/faith choice.
what are you people talking about? senseless murder makes me ill. but dont for one second forget what you are sending your sons out to iraq to do. murder innocent women and children, amongst the killers WHICH YOUR CHILDREN BECOME. its a never ending vicious cycle and only education and understanding can end it.
do you really think the men in this video have been killed by the virulent war you people (backed by my own winging mess of a government in the uk) have waged on the world? has it helped? or hindered?
get real. think about what you say and do, both personally, and the behaviour of your government. hold them to account. and know… murder will always be around. its the way of ‘humanity’.
AllahSnackbar Says:
January 1st, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I love how muslims defend actions like this.
Such as the cock here:
“# Lasse Kongo Says:
October 6th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Don’t think for a second that the bastard americans haven’t done equally horrible things to the people or Iraq.
”
When did a group of ‘bastard americans’ capture an Iraqi lorry driver just doing his job not hurting anyone and cut his throat in the name of God.
Dumb cunt.
yeah. because its much more humane to maim, torture, imprison without reason, cluster bomb, send biological weapons, rape, flatten whole towns, beat, bloody, and sexually humiliate people that… well, that arent white really. they dont even have to be foreign. they can be ethnic minorities on your own doorstep. fools.
you absolute fucks make me sick. YOU are the reason this is happening. this poor man, and his poor poor family, i cant imagine what they feel, or how they cope. but he went there. he was paid more in a couple of months than you ill educated twats would be due to in your life time from the state benefits you take and piss up the wall.
whats the moral of the story? dont go to war. dont put yourself at massive personal risk for money. DONT join the army, or work in a warzone for a small fortune.
these people have been persecuted, moved out of their own country, bombed, dictated to and generally treated like animals by your country. If you are too thick to know the history of YOUR OWN COUNTRY then you should be shot. america CONTINUES TO BEHAVE IN A WAY THAT IS INCOMMENSURATE WITH HUMANITY. you lot make me so angry. when i digest this list and the thoughts of the cunts on it, and i compare it to all (and i mean ALL) of the muslims i know, you dont stand one inch as tall as them, in their compassion, their beliefs, their conviction in the greater good.
america CONTINUES to treat people this way IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. for gods sake, you execute people with a MENTAL AGE OF 4, mostly black, mostly killing mostly white people – in a number and magnitude that is NOT COMMENSURATE WITH THE RACIAL MIX OF CONVICTED MURDERERS IN YOUR RAT INFESTED COUNTRY.
try to grow up. try to educate yourselves, try to provie a better future for your children by NOT ALLOWING THEM TO FIGHT. they become just like the murderers in this film. DO NOT FORGET THAT you proud army ‘moms’ waving your son off. he is going there to kill, indiscriminately.
AND BEFORE YOU START WITH YOUR RACIST ASSUMPTIONS AND BULLSHIT, I AM NOT MUSLIM, NOR ANY OTHER RELIGION. I DO NOT NEED A CHURCH OR A GOD TO TELL ME WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG… BECAUSE ANY RELIGION WHEN TAKEN TO EXTREMES OR PLACED IN THE WRONG HANDS. (bush is the immediate example… ‘god told me to do it’… ffs) RESULTS IN VIDEOS LIKE THIS.
racist inbreds.
ohhhhhh.
Dammmmnn shitt… tamouls
no fuck you this is just a sign that says that those stupid sand niggers r afraid you can say all those things about the americans but it doesnt matter you r the dumb cut caroline americans can walk the streets and a women can look at another man if she is married and at night she wont get beet half to death in america you can choose to listen or wair whatever you want iam not saying that america is great but it is a lot better then those other dumb fuck countrys
on 2006, I personally joined ARMY (can’t say witch one) an now, because of idiots asses like them, I know what I’m here for, there will be blood motherfuckers… that’s not a threat, that’s a promess, see you next year motherfuckers, hell will be heaven after what I’ll make you pay
Am I the only one who is unaffected by this? For some reason I don’t find this gross or horrifying. I know that what they are doing is inexplicably wrong, but I don’t feel a sense of grossness.
Something’s wrong with me…. :/
If I were a blind man,and heard this commotion,I would have swore it was a pig at a slaughterhouse.What a GANG OF CUTTHROATS!
That little Eichmann had it coming, as do all Americans.
These people are like savages. It does bother me about the American being done this way, but for some reason it really doesn’t bother me to see the others. I must be weird. Good videos Best Gore!!
Fuck all Arabs!!!
kill the fucking pakis, dead over allah and he’s stone age apes, and bomb that fucking contury..
Caroline is a true Brit. Still angered and enraged about the revolutionary war, she sits at home all day while hubby works his ass off to pay the bills. Her queen wears a flowerpot on her head and calls it “dignified.”
You are the true fool. Wanna talk about rape ect., look no further than the American revolution. There are no passages in the Christian bible glorifying murder, and hundreds in the Koran glorifying it. And this comes from an athiest.
So, the real question is, how does this whore sleep at night knowing what she posted here?
no one deserves to die like that american or not. these fucks should be killed in the exact same manner but behind the masks were men who have probably all lost either a moter,father,brother,sister,son or daughter of all the above by either an american,brittish or russian or all the above. we have fucked these PEOPLE for centuries and what do you american fucks do? act like the little kids you are and throw a tantrum and piss even more people off. message to everyone china, afganistan, russia, scotland everyone!! FUCKING NUKE AMERICA!!! then the west apologise to the east, the east apologise to the west (in that order) and we all dump our shit in the crater that used to be the usa. People of the world unite! fuck america & long live the planet! peace!
dear ‘you faggot’. (my, what a lovely name. deep south america per chance? descendant of the KKK?)
right-ooo.
RE THE PERSONAL/XENOPHOBIC ABUSE
the revolutionary war is obviously the first thing on my mind when i wake up. it irks me every day, and i curse the name of george III for the terrible loss of a veritable mine field of talent that is america.
but surely you are not suggesting that war is a terrible thing that shouldnt happen? heaven forbid… where would american forein policy be then? and how would you employ your inbreds?
I also have a vague awareness of the awful state of education on america, so i feel obliged to try to help you out. a flower pot is a different thing entirely to a hat. a hat is usually placed upon your head… and a flower pot is the vestibule within which you grow those drugs you’ve been ingesting. have a google. teach yourself our lovely language.
I do not sit at home while my husband brings in the bacon…. this is 2009 sweetie. i am a full time student with a part time job. and yes. when i qualify as a solicitor in six months time i will earn more than my husband. bless him. incidentally, it has always been the plan that he stays at home and is a full time dad whilst i work… THE HORROR! but dont worry for your daughters future, because america is starting to drag itself into the present day, so women will not have to suffer this type of abuse and prejudice. i am sure that you have not come across a woman that has an opinion on subjects other than kittens and baking before, but here i am! and that does not make me a whore. it makes me an independant, aware and educated young woman, who is more than ready to stand up to the violent male bullying tactics you clearly resort to.
Some of the other comments on here talk about america allowing a woman to walk down a street, and be looked at by men and not arrested. right…. because that is what women have fought and died for for years. so men can stare at them. what about the women who are bereaved, raped, killed tortured and sexually molested during the dirty war americans have raged? but thats another post.
electing a multi-racial president is a start, closing gitmo is a next baby step. an apology from bush and the idiots that espouse their racist hatred on there… well, thats prob a bit out of your range isnt it sweetie! MAYBE YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE DIFFERENT. one would hope.
RE THE BIBLE.
have you read it sweetie? ever pondered the old testament? ever read any of the stuff that wasnt included in the present version? and have you ever read the koran? didnt think so. try it, you def need some kind of moral compass… the mixture of islamic and christian scholar ship will do you the power of good.
when you have idiots like al-qaeda and bush, who read books written 2 thousand years ago like they are literally the word of god (i am actually laughing out loud at this point… the only idiots that believe this stuff are terrorists.. and oh… YOUR EX PRESIDENT… fools…)bad things are going to happen. when you allow america to feel as if its running the world… bad things will happen.
it is simple. not easy, but def simple.
and RE YOUR NAME.
pathetic sweetie, just pathetic. and if you dad didnt rape you right in the wrong’un every night from aged 2-22, you would feel quite so homosexual… oh gosh, sorry… i mean homophobic about things.
bless you for trying anyway sweetie, and good luck in life.
ALright i think that if all of the muslims in that country died…and yes i mean DIE the world would be cleaner and without some of the worst filth on the planet…i can go and look at an entire website dedicated to godanm cab driving truban wearning peices of shit like this that is nothing but them killing people in the name of ALLAH……ALLAH what a name….it sounds like a brand of tolite paper i would use to wipe my shitty ass….that is if i cant get one of the stinky PAKIE peices of shit turbans to do it with…i hope everybody that supports muslim supremecy dies…and i hope we fly a plane filled with pakis into there backyard…and then a bunch of white people take a shit on the corpses
OH and michel moore that bastard underneath me CAN EAT SHIT AND DIE….PAKI SHIT
and that, my friends… is why people think canadians are as idiotic as americans… but its ok ‘a canadian’. im not a racist, so i wont judge all your kind.
but seriously now… i am actually white. whether you have ever come across a non racist white person i dont know. but here i am! so ‘pakie’ (sic) is not a racial slur that applies.
good luck completing your violence holocaust of a dream.
The discussion here has nothing to with racism!!!!!
it is not the the race, it is the culture, that permits or leads to these kinds of “Justice”: it is really amazing, that there are still existing some cultures, that pretend to kill in the name of their god (theos)…. fuck you all bloody bastards….and die a painful natural dead!!! (cancer would the best!!!!! slow and painful!)
Caroline, bear in mind that people can call themselves anything on the internet. Just because someone calls himself a Canadian, it doesn’t necessarily mean he/she is a Canadian. Maybe so, but who knows – just saying.
and your point is angie? canadian, american, british, whatever… as long as they are ignorant the wars, violence etc will carry on.
just saying.
i think when you look at the language of the inbreds on here racism is the first thought that comes to mind. then xenophobia. then i start ruminating on the le vvel of inbreeding in america, and particularly the army.
not one deccent educated person can look at the comments on this page on not feel incensed at the level of racist behaviour. if you dont see it thats your problem not mine. educate yourself rainer.
Eugene Armstrong sure did squeal like a wild hog whilst being executed! He must have known he was going to be executed, might as well press into the knife, instead of squealing and trying to escape it.
Fuck that damn scottish bastard who wants to nuke america. he probably rolls his turds in little balls. psychotic scotts and your fag quilts… there’s not a lot of butt sex going on there.
Fuck islam!
Ya another american beheaded big deal.They rape and kill and torture iraqi people everyday.An eye for an eye.Americans supply israel with money every year,GAZA MASSACRE that happened a few weeks ago.Enough said.
I’m glad those assholes are suffering,, these all killer guys looking like asshole of pig,bastardddddddddsssssssssssssssssssssssss. who give them license to kill people like this fucking style,,
this is fucking disgusting, the sound is the worst part!
no one deserves this, and yet regardless of culture im sure many people would glady inflict this on another person.
so much hate in the world, and for what?
oh and “jesus” 2 ‘wrong’s’ dont make a ‘right’
To anyone that tries to make the point that Americans deserve this because of what Americans are doing to Iraqis, SHUT UP. Eugene Armstrong was a fucking engineer. He has nothing to do with any injustices against Iraqis or anyone else. This man was innocent of any crime and didn’t deserve this treatment.
dear ummmm…
to anyone (i.e you) that dont quite understand the processes that went into getting these unfortunate people to a war zone… EDUCATE YOURSELF. that man, unfortunate as he was has set up his family financially by spending that time in iraq. so understand that he made an active decision to go, knowing full well the dangers and benefits. do not make him out to be an innocent party. he knew exactly what he was doing.
Ummm, Eugene Armstrong was dressed up in a military uniform and was carrying weapons at time of capture. He was a civil engineer, but he neither looked, nor acted like one. I’m not justifying his beheading, but Eugene Armstrong was not beheaded for being an engineer. He was beheaded for being one with the occupants.
This is what they do. This is what they are good at and its what these ppl enjoy doing. They´re shitty, savage, monstrous,cowardly people who doesnt even dare to show their faces (perhaps they´re afraid their god will see them) and there is way too many of them. This wont ever stop as long as they´re here. Whats the glory of killing an innocent lorry driver anyways? bound to hand and feet. I bet they´re really proud of them selfs. fucking heartless pisspeople. It hurt so bad to watch this clip. where i live they kill their daughters and wifes and call it “honor kills” wtf is that? and it scares me coz if they can kill their own daughters that easily, how easy wouldnt they kill mine..?
Oh and to Caroline (who im starting to believe is Miss South Carolina) You believe in educate these muslims. And HOW would you do that? Dont you think there is no schools in any Arab country? Its not education they lack. its humanity. These ppl havent learned one single bit of that in atleast 2000 years so i would love to see you go there and try to educate them. They´d cut your tongue out befor they´d behead you. They still cut hands and feets of thiefs ffs. It has nothing to do with education. It has to do with their frigging religion.
And to Mark and Best Gore. just want to say thanks for a well needed page. You sure will open alot of ppls eyes to whats going on in the world. Mine are wide open and they´ll never be closed again i can promise.
chillwind… where to start.
if you managed to EDUCATE yourself, which is patently not the case, you might have clocked on that actually its the AMERICANS that need educating. and if you need more proof of that sweetie… read back your own post. seriously. the richest country in the world and the residents cant even formulate a bloody paragraph.
south carolina? is that some kind of code for the educated in america?
again, if you have done your research you would figure out that i am proudly british.
please read a book, have a think about islam, read the koran, know that the people in these images arent living in a halal manner. they arent muslims, they are thugs, just like bush, apparently obama and the rest of your country.
if you feel so strongly, maybe you should nip off to college and go and educate them yourself. until then focus on your own mess of a state.
Im not even american you cunt. And i never said Americans are well educated. All the rest of the world knows they´re not. Which is why the “south carolina”. but you prolly missed that. you can check it on youtube though. But you say in your comments that the ONLY muslims commiting any of these horrible things are terrorists. Thats so fucking stupid. Or it would mean pretty much all muslims are terrorists then and my own country is invaded by them. It doesnt mean shit to them who you are. They´ll cut you up just the same. and read the koran. i actually have and it was the same disapointment as the bible. I dont believe in any god and im never going to since thats whats causing all the wars. I would like to believe in humanity and common sense but atm it seems there´not much of that in the world. And if you can say that poor man had it coming and knew exactly what he was doing.. well all sense obviously left you
i dont think i ‘prolly’ missed anything… but to be fair, i dont even know what that means. perhaps you cant spell probably? god knows.
i dont see why saying that these people arent muslims is a problem… people that kill in this manner arent living halal… its that simple. and the americans and british that kill, maim, torture, rape etc arent acting in a manner thats commensurate with being decent people. its all wrong.
in fact, having read your post… i cant really think of a way to battle through the irrational thought processes that have caused you to ACTUALLY TYPE… ‘my country is being invaded’, and ‘in that case… all muslims are terrorists. is there some kind of issue with stating the the vast vast vast majority of muslims would never consider doing this? dont think that this is ok? is there some kind of mental problem you have that causes you to not be able to seperate muslims that do kill… ie terrorists, and muslims that dont… i.e. rational human beings?
all religion should be stopped. the bible and the koran have equal amounts of hatred, death and murder. but to somehow come out of this discussion with the idea that all muslims are terrorists and that your own country is being ‘over-run’. what are these people to you? rats? are you that inhumane that you look into the eyes of a muslim and tell him what you just typed? or are you actually just a prick behind a computer – a bit pissed off that he sees the world moving on without him?
get a job, get an education, possibly even a girlfriend may help…
and for gods sake, dont talk to me again. i have a certain level of communication that i adhere to
You make me laugh so much. And i have a great education and a great relationship with a man since im a woman. But honestly you´re really funny. And this has gone beyond an adult level if you´re picking on spelling. Atleast we bother to learn english: i would love to se how you´re Swedish / Danish and Norwegian spelling is. Since you´re so well educated.This isnt even about that poor guy in the clip anymore so im not gonna post more comments. You can play in your sandbox alonebut for your own sake please grow up and be a bit realistic.
very true. and apologies – you lose sight of the real issues when faced with the type of idiocy you can see spwed across these pages. (incidentally.. try me on my latin and ancient greek… modern lanagues aint my thing
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when you make statements such as your country is being over run and about islam as a awful thing, i feel that you are contributing to the issue.
i am unsure of which country you talk of being over-run, but i actually cant see it happening? maybe im missing something.
and quite possibly i was starting to descend into ‘sandbox’ (american surely???) logic and argument, but can you blame me? have you read some of these comments running down the page?
without wanting to sound over-dramatic, my heart aches for the people within britain that have to face racism every day, and are good people. why should anyone be able to say that all muslims are terrorists? i stand by my challenge for you to sy that to the muslims in your life, if indeed there are any.
Well it’s been a while since I saw this video back in Jan/09 and can honestly say this will never leave me. (how could it?) I watched it over and over trying to understand. How can a person do that to another person!? We all start out cute little kids. (some are killed for honorable reasons?) WTF!? This is unimaginable! Our worst horror flicks aren’t this twisted! Some have made comments that they think the ones responcible should be killed in the same fashion. Unfortunately, the one believed to have done the cutting has been killed via a painless bomb. I say painless since it’s over in the blink of an eye. That is unfortunate! But I get some solice in thinking he was fast tracked to his destination. Maybe they’re delived to this earth to live in the desert to aclement them to the heat! There is no “winning” this war. It was stupid of Bush to go there. That’s not to say I don’t support our troops! I do! I celebrate everytime they exterminate some evil vermine! (It’s sad that they have to be exterminated, it’s sad that they are vermine. )Just like it’s sad when you drive over a rat on the road. (it’s sad that I have to go wash my tire) The new admin. is looking to close GTMO this year and are wondering what to do with the terrorists that thay have there. I suggest they watch this video. Maybe they can learn from it!
Oh, I forgot to address the issue of “those dumb ass americans.” Being an American and proud of it, I will say this… I too believe that our country has failed us miserably in terms of our educational system. HOWEVER, we seem to be smarter that you’all! During WWII even the (arguably) smartest minds flocked to the land of Liberty, and home of the brave. (Einstein, Wernher von Braun) to name a couple. Not first to space, but first to the moon. During the second world war, we saved the British Monarchy before it was completely flattened by the Germans, we took out the trash in France, and dominate the world today. Do you have a computer? PC or Mac? Both were born here in the US! Cell phone? ummm US! Nintendo? X-Box? Starbucks? MS software? … Now I understand that we’re not perfect. All I’m saying is, if you’re going to sling mud and call Americans dumb asses, and yet we’re still NUMBER ONE, ask yourself, where does that leave you? Second? Third? The spirit of which our country has been founded on has made us strong. First we fought and defeated the Brits so that we may carve out a country based on freedom and democracy. Yes, we’re still working on it. Our declaration is a “living document” and is forever growing as are we. Our country is now under new management and I beleive these issues of educational shortcomings will be addressed as will the terrorists. (We all have a “village idiot” and now that we got ours out of office, we can move forward!)
i jus hope the just for that they kick all da muslims out the country so den we wnt have of dem prisonors
i dont really know where to start ‘one of gods creatures’.
WW2 – NO WARS, but some might say… you are wanting to take credit for turning up after 4 and a half years of death and slaughter with no help… allowing eleven million to die because the worlds ‘super power’ cant be arsed to act? thats not something to be proud of.
VILLAGE IDIOT – every community has those that have less brain power than others. they are to be helped to live and assimilate, not VOTED INTO OFFICE… what a stupid, ignorant comment to make. “its ok that bush is our leader… its all a big joke”. you absolute inbreds.
ADVANCES – i dont even need to discuss this to be fair. the fact that you listed starbucks, nintendo and pc’s as the greatest achievements just beggars belief.
LIVING DOCUMENT – the british constituion is a living, breathing, evolving metaphorical document. your rigid, backwards, gun toting hill billy protecting document is no more living that the statue of liberty.
sweetie, you must have an understanding of your legal system before you lecture others on it. and incidentally. EVERYTHING in your constitution mirrors the UK’s system. we have the mother of all legal systems, the mother of all parliaments – and you have an abysmal record of upholding the fine tradition of freedom of speech, association, religion and expression that britain donated to you when your country was born. dont misunderstand – i am not a colonialist, but you lot really have to stop thinking about yourselves as some kind of special race. its almost nazi like.
QUOTE: “I celebrate everytime they exterminate some evil vermine” (sic). this is not just a damning indictment of the level of both yours, and your countries education provision, but is reminiscent of the dictum from the nuremberg rallies. just read back your posts and see how you feel. translate it into arabic and you have the fanatical islamasists wet dream. except they are actually being invaded and killed daily, right now.
have a think about your behaviour.
THIS WAS SO FUCKED UP ON SO MANY LEVELS YO
THIS IS why i HATE theese motherFUCKERS. JIHAD, ISLAM, Muhammed, isreal! NUKE EM AMERICA NUKE EM!
FUCK!
thats right. good luck bombing ‘jihad’ and ‘mohammed’, being as thought they are respectively… a state of mind and a dead person.
when was the last time the USA bombed isreal? and for your information, being as though you seem to be vaguely against everyone and everything… that isreal are persecuting muslims when they desecrated gaza. you may want to join them.
keep trying though.
Hey Caroline – nice one . I just read your speech on the “british Justice sytem ” as oppose to the American’s version …..i have to say i was with you all the way …
Harsh , Best not to go there on Holiday , unless you have a death wish ….
All this hating on America, sounds like someone is jealous that every time their country needs help they have to run to us because they are too weak to help themselves. By the way muslims are scum, they should all be take out and shot in the back of the head. What do you so with the trash? You take it OUT. Please put more vids up of filthy muslim pigs getting killed, I love it!
actually love your name carolineisacunt.. thats feminist reassignation in action, and i, for one – love you for it…
forget the personal insults, forget the ‘jealousy’ you read into my anti-war rants, and look at the reality.
the americans have just injected into their own industry – half of the worlds aid budget. they have the majority of the worlds wealth. the richest and most influential people of the world flock to america.
so how is it that america is failing so badly on so many fronts? education, poverty, racism, foreign relations – isreal, zimbabwe, pakistan, iran, iraq, afghanistan, sudan.
if you lot want recognition of your supposed power and influence, USE IT. to end USA perpetuated violence and death.
then you can all set up websites so you can sit at home congratulating each other, whilst you waste away in a plague of gout, heart disease and diabetes. you are welcome to that fate, and i give you my full permission to do so. which is presumably what you seek when you insult me personally?
FINAL SOLUTION QUOTE OF THE DAY… FROM ‘CAROLINE IS CUNT’…….
“What do you so with the trash? You take it OUT. Please put more vids up of filthy muslim pigs getting killed, I love it!”
hey… at least he can spell =)
why don’t we nuke those fucking shit-holes, sub-human, shit scum. when fuck-holes beheads an innocent man ,whose only sin was to work in a fucked-up country to put bread on his table), that shit-hole country should pay.
this is not about sin, its abot risk and reward.
REINCARNATED HITLER QUOTE OF THE DAY…. FROM ECRUZ
“why don’t we nuke those fucking shit-holes, sub-human, shit scum. when fuck-holes beheads an innocent man ,whose only sin was to work in a fucked-up country to put bread on his table), that shit-hole country should pay.”
surely that means that america should pay for the millions of lives it has taken, and continues to take??? not that i would advocate that… but fairs fair, you punish one whole country for the actions of a few psychopaths… why not the USA? someone should pay for the existence of bush, surely???
So can anyone tell me what the fuck was he doing in Iraq in the first place.Iraqis have a right to fight a foreign occupation, they are people with their own ambitions and aspirations. So go hajjis and kill more of those American cunts who occupy, bomb and kill innocent civilians.
Sweet caroline… I appreciate you taking the time to acknowledge my post with such an emotional responce! I must have struck a nerve? I know, the truth hurts and when backed into a corner one feels it necessary to lash out. I applogize for not getting back to you sooner for I have been leading my life and haven’t had time to check in with you. Wow! where do I begin? You see darling, we left Europe in hopes of finding a better way of life. A life more equitable for the people, not for a king. Tired of being surpressed we made our way across the pond. A new land, a new hope. Yes, we brought some ideals with us from the father/mother land. How could we not. We couldn’t just abadoned everything we knew and had. We brought with us the best or what we thought to be the best. While of course we (Americans) are not perfect, we don’t claim to be. Some may claim to be better than most or even go so far as to say all. I’d join in on that group. When we landed on plymouth rock and decided enough is enough, we weren’t going to lay down to a human playing God (King). The King sent over his men to claim this new land for himself. (true to his natural greedy tendancies and the very reason we left England!) He sent outragous numbers to overthrow the few who had created settlements here, and yet were defeated. You see caroline, they weren’t really redcoats, they were yellow coats. From that day to this day, we have fought for what is right. We have been knocked down, but ALWAYS get right back up and kick some arse! We have in recent years mended our relationship with England in great part due to our saving your ass in WWII. I’m sure you’re too young to remember the bombing of England and the “lights out” to avoid being hit, so am I. I did however loose several family members in WWII who joined the RAF prior to the US joining in the war. This is all beside the point anyways. The point of this blog was to point our attention to these monsters doing usspeakable and horrific shit to innocent people who quite frankly are there to work, put food on their table and to make their life better by rebuilding their roads and communities. These are nothing more that serial killers, cowards for hiding their face, and just down right stupid. The point I think they’re trying to make here is terror! So we don’t continue to occupy this dust bowl. Well, I think thay fail to realize that they brought this to our soil so of course we break out the big sticks and start thumpin! We have a understanding here in the US and that is, we DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS. (PERIOD!) Since our country was founded, we have never bowed down to anyone!
Moving on to our “village idiot.” I did not vote for Bush, nor did I vote for his father or even Reagan. I did vote for Cliton and I did vote for Obama. You see we are given many choices in this country, one of which is to vote our leader in every 4 years. Bush actually wasn’t even (truly) elected the first term, but by some freak design he was put into office. (Thanks Florida) Darn southerners!
(yank here)
The real problem here is we have some enemies that blend in. This was first experienced in Viet Nam. This is a new type of war, just as Nam was. Realalistically, we will never win this war. And by “we” I don’t mean America or England, I mean sane people. There was a comment about nuking all muselums. Then someone called them Hitler. If you’d like to compare that person to Hitler for wanting to radicate this vermin, then I might have to rethink Hitler. Hitler was briliant at what he did. He was sick as hell! (probably manic depressant) but he knew how to get people to rally. (I guess you could call him a cheer leader
I am of course in no way rationalizing Hitler or his actions. I think it’s fair to say most of us agree he was SICK! We lash out because we can’t see our enemy and that is distrubing. The atrosoties they have commited againts mankind creates such an urgency to find them and “do away” with the threat. The few that create this threat, threaten those who are in a position to inform therefore we can’t identify hence the frustration. Even by nuking them on their turf, we don’t solve the problem. They are amongst us here and there! Only time and perservierance will prevail. That and the second coming of Christ!
oh my gosh.
im (almost) speechless… i dont know whether you have noticed… but actually i rail against idiocy and prejudice… not you individually, but actually you are a prime example of the twattery that pervades america.
QUOTE…
“If you’d like to compare that person to Hitler for wanting to radicate [sic] this vermin, then I might have to rethink Hitler” – “He was brilliant at what he did.”
however… you are “of course in no way rationalizing [sic] Hitler or his actions”.
ARE YOU SURE??? hitler is a cheerleader? he may well be a ‘cheerleader’ for people like you. he certainly is not a ‘cheerleader’ for me, democracy, freedom of speech, ethnic minorities, or the rights you speak so highly of.
you should really read back what you have written before you post. not only in terms of spelling and grammar (it makes my teeth hurt that people like you don t feel ashamed at the level of your communication), but also to check for signs of abject racism… america is supposed to be the land of the free? no? or have i got that wrong?
genuinely, the revolution from english control was the right and proper thing to do. the british empire was atrocious (note the correct spelling, if you write it out thrice it should remain in your head…) and commited many awful crimes against the dispossessed and un-protected. it is however my understanding that the civil war was a war based on slavery rights? and dont get me started on the level of equality between the black and white communities in your country. I am sure you are proud that your country was strong enough to bring down english rule, as am I… but that was years ago, 300 i believe? youll have to correct me on that if i am wrong. I am sure when you finish ‘living your life’ you will.
so exactly why again have you just written 500 words on it?
you ask whether you have struck a nerve with me. i would be in-human if it didnt grate against me when i read your diatribes.
QUOTES…
“Only time and perservierance [sic] will prevail. That and the second coming of Christ!”
“We have been knocked down, but ALWAYS get right back up and kick some arse!” – is this a sport to you? thats the way my husband talks about his football team…
“Since our country was founded, we have never bowed down to anyone!” quite – not least the black community, and those pesky native americans… they want their own land??? YOU WHAT?? that will be a no then?
“I did vote for Cliton and I did vote for Obama.” i actually quite like ‘cliton’… tis an appropriate misspelling.
POINT BEING you have a bloody choice. you live in a democracy of sorts… and as such you are personally and socially responsible for everything your government do. by PARTICIPATING you vote not only for the president, but also for the process. For instance, in the UK, the last of the inbreds we didnt manage to ship off to america or australia have formed a far right neo-nazi group called the BNP. If they EVER got a seat in Parliament, I would wait 4-5 years (the legal limit for a general election under normal curcumstances) and see if they were voted out, if not im off. I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS THIS BEHAVIOUR.
“These are nothing more that serial killers, cowards for hiding their face, and just down right stupid.” I QUITE AGREE. thats the first sensible thing you have typed. they are NOTHING MORE than serial killers, just as every country and every creed has people that behave like this. the number goes up when people are sent to war. you are sending your children to return just like these people. those men were and are fathers, brothers and sons. how dare you suggest (in the rest of your posts) that these people represent a large community?
“we DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS. (PERIOD!)” SURELY NOT.. what about isreal? what about the terror of the invasion of the americas? (since you seem to love harping on about 300 years ago) What about the IRA, and Cli[n]tons involvement in the Irish peace process? I am actually third generation Irish immigrant to the UK, and my family were (a hundred years ago or so) were IRA supporters, and whereas the freedom of Eire has my total support, the methods used were atrocious and awful, and should be condemned – point being… they were terrorists. meeting with americans. yet another example of american involvement in a conflict where both sides used terror.
Isreal has not been condemned for the war crimes inflicted on gaza in the last 80 years. Where is the national statement on the human rights abuses on Zimbabwe? The Zanu PF murder rape a pillage all those people that are even PERCIEVED to be politically opposed to them. and still the US (the biggest and best apparently) does fuck all. that angers me more than a few passive aggressive skewed history ‘lessons’ from a very disturbed, ignorant and ill-educated, but essentially well-meaning (of sorts) gentleman.
“Well, I think thay [sic] fail to realize that they brought this to our soil so of course we break out the big sticks and start thumpin!” AND WHO ARE ‘THAY’[sic] EXACTLY? it was al-qaeda that committed the atrocity in New York, incidentally I watched msot of it live and cried for days. It was and still is awful. And yet you invade Iraq? nothing at all to do with the personal vendetta of the village idiot or oil per chance? NO? thought you might say that.
so when you say ‘thay’ [sic] i presume you mean muslims. thats right my sweet. every ‘muselum’ [sic] is a terrorist. and you have permission to attack on sight. although as they are “enemies that blend in” you might find it difficult. I am sure that you find a way round that… presuming every asian person is a terrorist is my best guess at your methods.
you stated months ago that “I don’t personally know anything about the Muslim’s ways or religeon.” SO TRUE. i would extend that however, after reading your last post. you know very little about everything, and your time would be better spent educating yourself as opposed to the self-congratulatory crap that spews forth.
I presume you are looking forward to “the second coming of Christ!” my advice would be to fill your life while you are waiting, t’will be a long time coming…
and genuinely, reading over your posts… do you think he will accept you? i know he is all forgiving… but there is a limit, and it is drawn when you speak of others in this manner… ““I celebrate everytime they exterminate some evil vermine” (sic).
incidentally, the Koran has many a chapter on Jesus, arguably there is more in the Koran than in the bible directly. particularly mary – very interesting how over the years the christian church has pissed all over the real meaning of the religion and the initial writings that constituted the bible. The Koran is a wonderful read. you should try it. we might actually be able to have a true debate then. wouldnt that be lov-er-ley. =)
I always watch this video.I Like this. Respect to the these mens
Such is nature, and not that I like it. Man is no different from dinosaurs or whatever lifeform dominates at a particular time, despite our philosophical pretensions.
were is god through all ths they say he has his reasons.they say he knows all.lol so why!!!!!!!! you all better start thinking
i by no means justify what they have done, and have much sympathy for American soldiers, or anyone in that war, especially innocent civilians caught up in the cross fire, but dont forget we dont hear about what Americans have done to them, the reason why America is there is for oil, America chose to destroy someones country under false accusations..im sorry to hear that your son has to serve there my older brother served in afghanistan and has a sniper round scar that barely missed his neck…so i know were you are coming from but hatred breeds more hatred..the bush administration must be charged for war crimes
Y were beter of nuking each other than pulling this shit everyday, come on man who does that help at least show ur faces fukkin pussy ass fukks
PEACE,
R.I.P. BIG L
stfu you whore, lmao ameriKKKa will and are getting raped, more and more Americans are converting that you could imagine, the future looks bleak for your kind, you cant beat Islam so embrace it, the future is Islam and if that isnt the case then heads or tails DEATH WILL PREVAIL for mankind.
http://www.evilbible.com
this is not the future, it is a minor blip in world history. islam is not the future, all religion is in its death throws. people like this are reacting to the end of the structure within which they have been raised, in the only way they have been taught… fighting violence with violence.
tis wrong, tis unnecessary, tis your decision whether you waste your life with religion likes those above (both the murderers and the christian ‘prosletyzers’ above) rather than living and enjoying life.
good luck with your decision.
Cath Hitler??? how was he any way involved in this? Hitler was german AND had something wrong with his brain and in fact if it wasn’t for Hitler Germany wouldn’t have a back bone now i’m not saying hitler was right but he wasn’t that bad either
aahha you stupid fuck, lmao i would LOVE to see AmeriKKKa do that, you cant STOP suicide bombers and they are on the opposite side of you, your own kind turn against you..that is why the government is raping your assholes dumb shit, your fucked if you stay in AmeriKKKa faggot i rather live in Iran or Gaza strip i got more chance of survival there, universe unfolds and America will fail and fall and if not nuclear holocaust, GLOBAL GENOCIDE FTW! FUCK HUMANITY AND SUCK MY DICK MOTHERFUCKER
Caroline: I understand what you mean and I agree with you on almost everything you say, but do you really think you can make people think differently and make peace by insulting and being sarcastic? Its just contradictory and you are becoming just as war-driven as the folks you talk bad about and criticize. Chill, girl. And get your point accross with more intelligence.
sigh, i do agree. its partly the british dry sense of humour, and partly a genuine reaction to both the visceral nature of what i see and the pathetic plattitudes of the people who comment.
but i would ask, did you read every comment up there? didnt you feel aggrieved and angry at the attitudes above? I find it untenable that actually you would read through the thousands of words above and choose to comment upon me and my dictum? is there a reason for that? surely you could have pointed out ‘carolineisacunt’ or ‘oneofgodscreatures’…
Do i not have a right to respond to the abuse that has been thrown at me whilst trying to point out that it isnt me that needs the attention, it is the prevalent USA racist, ethnocentric, and controlling attitude (still there… so much for obama…) the pervades america. maybe when people realise that commentary, debate, and having inimical views held by disparate members of one total community is a wonderful thing. maybe then and only then “i can put ‘accross’ [sic] my point with more intelligence”.
i aint going to be able to do that for you, or for america, or for the world, whatever the level of acumen
in my speech. t’will happen though. all i can do in the mean time is try to put across a view point that highlights the inadequacy of the viewpoints of the cunts on here.
seriously melissa. people (particularly women in fact) spend too much of their time pissing around with the unimportant aspects fo life. lets focus on the real issues here.
in conclusion… have an opinion that we can discuss rather than a (polite and well put) appraisal of my methods? as much as i appreciate the constructive criticism from a rarity on here… someone that actually understands the thread of my speech?
american AND canadian
To są ci co wierzą w Allaha , to bestie , bez sumienia , a przecież żadna religia nie zezwala na takie okrutne mordowanie bezbronnego człowieka , Niech ich o ile istnieje pochłonie piekło !!!
you know hat really pisses me off about peoples comments about this video that people saying that so waht americans are killing to this is a man a human american or not donot justify what these clowns are dong by blaming the opposistion muslims belive an eye for an eye right so the caused 9/11 they get the war back and what pisses me off the most is that most americans that go over there are humanitarian workers trying to help and report what is going on and look at the thanks they get.fucking muslim clowns your representing your so called great allah with your faces covered show us let us see whos behind your handy work.this is to kill maim get your facts straight more christians are converting yeah right its the other way round you muslims spend your time drowning out the bible talking about world domination ,a muslim world yet you fail to see that 80% of muslims in the world are or have extremists views they are faced with allah or death so what would you choose get real most christains that convert do not do it for the simple fact of loving thereligion but for boyfriends and wives who force/corrupt their partner into converting every muslim that has tryed to convert gets killed so whatyou statement has no substance.muslims hide behind their scarfs their perect image but under that they are the worst kind sleeping around ,smoking ,drinking,prostitution yes they do all of this like humans i work in a clinic and no for a fact that teenage abortions are higher amougst muslim women trust me i work there.you can not in any way justyfy what has happened let me ask yyou this question all the muslims living in the western world why do you not follow the teaches say taht are in the middle east i know many muslims taht drin that have created and so forth should we behead them too in the uk and usa if yes then the streets ill be littered .This is to all the muslims you spend all your time defending your religion why is that it gives no choices think about it i mean really think about it if the whole world was muslim it will be the end of human kind why come to christain countrys and try to change them if you hate them so much why are you here why dont you go back to the middle east where you bang on about so much and sufferer your fate as a muslim their i dont get it if you what to be near your beheading brothers then go just admit it when you came over from ehatever muslim country you came from you felt freedom and less fear admit it.think about it you muslims rather live in a christiian society than a muslim one if not why would you be here if you oppose us chrisstains so much .THOSE WHO HAVE NOT COMMITED SIN MAY CAST THE FIRST STONE.
Hey Obama, I have an idea. Let’s snub our allies and make friends with these fuckin’ heartless bastards. You fucking terrorist.
watch aljezzera many muslims are converting please I want everyone on here to go on youtube and type in arab woman speaks out against islam/the quran and realy listen to what this muslim yes muslim is saying about her own religion and tell me what you think
oh ps why strap a bomb to your baby for propganda blow them up in the name of allah see if at 18 months old your child will get 7 virgins.really think about it men are going to the extreme of recruting yeah like a job interview to blow them selves up while they train and brainwash there mums are proud of there so called martredom while the ones that train look on as there branwashed are blown to pieces funny how they dont practice what they preach and the reward virgins yeah im going to kill a number of yeah my own muslim people so i can fuck virgins in heaven wow what a reward thats how sick the muslim mind is yeah you dumb uneducated women who bow down to their men who undercover beat rape and control them yep burning and throwing acid on hem.thonk about it do you ever see christains trying to convert people muslims do they just love it trying to convert people does that make you a good person no religion comes natually from the heart not beating hate and fear into people good for you if your a muslim that dont make you a saint
amy… my gosh girly… a christian that works in an abortion clinic? that must be why you are so angry and confused, surely?
“you know hat really pisses me off about peoples comments about this video that people saying that so waht americans are killing to this is a man a human american or not donot justify what these clowns are dong by blaming the opposistion muslims belive an eye for an eye right so the caused 9/11″
oh i get it.. so you wont justify killing americans, but you will justify killing all of those pesky muslims who ’caused’ 9/11, despite the fact that it was a) not iraq and b) an incredibly small minority of muslims. on that basis… surely i could sentance all of america to death on the basis of the recent high school shootings? or what about those inbreds that don the white hoods and harass people? surely if you are making vast vast vast assumptions based on religion and/or ethnicity i could do the same? but i spose youll say they are an insignifant minority that dont represent them all. WHAT AN INTERESTING IDEA.
you have just spent 300 words telling all and sundry not to kill americans, but calling for the deaths of muslims? ARE YOU KIDDING? please dont think i am justifying what any murders, but i really dont think you can read what you have written back and not have a little laugh at yourself? surely?
ps, if you are in britain i would advise you to watch a programme on 4OD called britz. it shows really really well (and simply… god knows you couldnt cope with any serious conversation) how people like you are isolating a whole generation of BRITISH and AMERICAN people. not MULSIMS. but PEOPLE, who contribute and detriment our society just like any other racial or religious group within our communities. have a watch, and think about your behaviour.
AND DEAR JOHN… (i bet you have had many of those types of letters before
)
“Hey Obama, I have an idea. Let’s snub our allies and make friends with these fuckin’ heartless bastards. You fucking terrorist.”
which fucking terrorists are you talking about? the ones obama has just given a whole load of troops to in afganistan… the ones that want to subjugate women to mere chattels, and disallow them from having autonomy and a voice? or turkey, the pro-european country that have worked hard in bringing their economy and attitude up to date? Im a bit confused…
amy – calm down love.
whether you are British or american, (and god hope you are american… id be ashamed to be in the same ethnic category as you…) YOUR TAX MONEY is going to a country that has just passed a law to state that a woman can be raped when in a marriage. (incidentally, the UK have only just banned this practice, 2002 i believe)
women cannot leave the house, even to get medical attention without a mans permission in afgan, nor can they in UAE = where women cannot even be in a room with another man, nor taught by him. there is a lack of education for women in both afgan., and the taliban controlled areas of pakistan, or where you are from apparently.
if you genuinely feel that bad about it, CAMPAIGN AGAINST SENDING OUR SONS, FATHERS, BROTHERS AND HUSBANDS TO AFGHANISTAN.
dont blame the muslim world for your shortcomings. you are clearly a very ill educated, angry, and idiotic young woman. HAVE A THINK ABOUT YOUR BEHAVIOUR.
Well Another example of how religion poisons everything.
far too true.
hi caroline im british and id like to start off with suporting u on half of your subjects, but when u say that all religions should get on with each other, lets take a look back in time , history has told from the start that one religion and one race will always try and dominate another. and when you talk about the muslim world a race and religion that over the last 1000 years has acomplished nothing, and persecutes women to the point of bieng a dog i quiet disagree and you talk about the koran a book i sadly read part of and maybe you missed the parts telling all muslime to behead all non belivers and that the purpose off a women in total is to please her husband and bear childen, mmm i guess u missed those parts. and while your sitting up on your trone im a very well educated man im curently working as a close curcuit exposive techichen so while your sitting with your perfect family sipping wine, the world you are dreaming of is not reality see things how they are not how u want them to be. i want to finish on a point to all readers of this website please do all you can hurt islam and never believe in crackpots like this so called 1st class citizen . oh and i wonder what a women like caroline with perfect morals (crackpot) doing on a website like this must have found it by mistake while looking for http://www.savethewhales.com. caroline fell free to write back id like a debate with you. have a good night sleep in your perfect world. BYE
british crusader…
before i start, with which part of my views do you agree? you say you support me on half of my subjects?
here goes…
“history has told from the start that one religion and one race will always try and dominate another.”
wrong. humans.. they group up and attempt to dominate. not religions, that is a poor, poor excuse. please dont mistake a genuine respect for the threads of humanity running through all religions for a lack of understanding as to world history. i do believe that you are being a touch naive.
“persecutes women to the point of bieng a dog”
there is quite a thriving iranian feminist movement actually, but thats beside the point. here in britain, we have participation and integration into the community of the majority of migrant groups, muslim or otherwise, both women and men. if you go and talk to muslim people of my age…(which incidentally is 24… so i havent got a family as of yet… maybe yours breeds young and fast?)… you will find the same proportion of education, ambitions, humanity, and all the other characteristics that being a good brit demands, as in other ‘racial’ or ‘religious’ groups or whatever titular tautology you tend. you may find examples of english/british people behaving in a fascist manner (BNP) or in a sexist manner(pretty much any northern man), or in a racist manner (phil woolas), but it doesnt mean they define that group.
and if you feel that womens rights are at the forefront of what we do in the middle east, and the damage we inflict in order to keep our troops in jobs, then why are we sending troops to afghanistan? legalised marital rape? women cant leave the house? why then are we, and america spearheading an assault to keep that government in power? YOUR TAX MONEY.
“i quiet disagree and you talk about the koran a book i sadly read part of and maybe you missed the parts telling all muslime to behead all non belivers and that the purpose off a women in total is to please her husband and bear childen, mmm i guess u missed those parts.”
i miss very little sweetie.
it is up to you whether you read the bible as meaning that the world was ACTUALLY created by god in SEVEN DAYS, (Bush, Blair, Palin… the list goes on) or whether you see it as a nice story that has a lovely meaning, that would enrich our lives if we behaved in a nice way, OR YOU COULD THINK ITS A PILE OF SHITE LIKE ME, and understand that it is a piece of innate history that tells a story from thousands of years ago. the basic theory is good… look after your clan, bits are bad – fight others, because thats how it was. no homosexuals because we need to breed, cant let women out of the hosue because you have to ensure the bloodline… brutal. but society should have grown up, surely? surely we wouldnt now be going to other peoples countries and smashing them up with troops and poisons? killing women and children? if you think the koran is brutal, when read in light of its age and contemporaneity, what do you think of the american policy on guantanamo? BRUTAL. beheading enemies? THAT HAPPENS IN AMERICAN CONTROLLED MIDDLE EAST.
and the bible has been re-written…
there is a need for reform, and space for islam to grow and change with the times… that will be achieved by assimilation and community ties, not the plattitudes and contritr idiocy you spout.
“your perfect family sipping wine, the world you are dreaming of is not reality see things how they are not how u want them to be”
PATENTLY. people like you can annoy me in this manner even at night. i do not seek to diarise whats going on, i want to move forward.
“oh and i wonder what a women like caroline with perfect morals (crackpot) doing on a website like this must have found it by mistake while looking for http://www.savethewhales.com.”
sorry, i did my animal charities when i was 12-15, then moved onto the real stuff. when i heard about this video, i felt obligated to watch if just to understand the visceral nature of what goes on, not just in a few awful, despicable cases such as the one above, but every day. basically wherever the US feels like invading with the UK following behind like a lapdog. i wanted to have some idea of what people in war did, to ensure i could justify what i feel about no wars. turns out, i can… i knew that as soon as i ran my eyes down the page, and encountered women who were sending their sons to death and congratulating themselves, people who could use such ridiculous and outdated language in a vague attempt to offend.
“caroline fell free to write back id like a debate with you. have a good night sleep in your perfect world. BYE”
im fine with a debate… do you want to bring one? im better with arguing if you would actually made a point, rather than just gamboling through all his inadequecies and prejudices…
no answer to that as yet british patriot.. thought you were up for a debate?
in the meantime, i wanted to direct you to the BNP website, it is much more your level of ‘debate’, ‘research’ and ‘attitude’.
nuke em everyone of em,man,women,child..the world should see this video then they wont moan bout the war in iraq o0s shitystan.HORRIBLE FUCKIN ANIMALS.KILL EM ALL I SAY
caroline actually i council women not to have abortons so ask what i do before you talk caroline theres no room for contridiction and trying to come off clever basically muslim people shouldnt die but the religion should but hey i seems that you dont care so well just carry on leaving muslim religion to destroy the world in the name of allah you have obviously havnt lived in a conflict zone i have and you probably havent seen someone burned to death in front of your eyes i have and you obviously havent had anyone you know die in 9/11 so before you start passing judgement lets get real here you have seen these things happen just on a computer screen so you try having someone you love die in the name of allah in front of you and see how you feel would you love muslims
caroline your obviously a muslims good on you hope your proud of your fellow murderes seen as you seem to want to justify wevery eil action they make with talk about america bush and what ever immaking a comment on what i see in this video infront of me you dont seem to understand that what im saying is just angry ranting i persoanlly would not kill anybody regardless i actually feel sorry for muslim women who hide their sadness under their scarfs.im being staright with you now but your not hearing what im sayin there is no justification for any killings the american shooting you were talking about wrong did he shoot in the name of jesus NO he went shooting because of his own morals and mind god had no influence no like than allah akbar allah akbar the executioners call out when their about to behead some one so no your comment has no logic you keep going on about tax and america and whatever else but is this to do with jesus christ and his teachings or ignorant rasict america and im white by the way no because they do not claim there actions onto jesus when they carry out these rapes and murders i.e god gave us free will other than the muslims who call out allah akbar (in gods name)to justify and hide behind there actions explain that to me caroline seen as you seem to no so much
amy amy amy…
i am of irish catholic stock, brought up fiercly athetist, and that is how i remain. i was brought up in nottingham, which is one of the most multi-cultural cities i know, and now attend univeristy in yorkshire, also fairly multi-cultural, but full of racists and inbreds, so not too integrated. I count amongst my friends agnostics, theosophists, muslims, hindus, rabid christians and members of the jewish faith. part of me wishes i was muslim… maybe that would give you a feeling of justification for the hate that you spout.
its a shame that you counsel people and yet have obviously not dealt with the grief you have suffered from your loss through 9/11, for which i am very sorry. it has patently affected your judgment in terms of prejudical behaviour towards the muslim community.
quite how that explains your complete and total lack of punctuation I dont know…
congratulations on counselling women to not have abortions.. the fugures stick at 6 million odd since 1967 (not including the BILLIONS of blastocysts aborted both naturally and through abortiofacient contraceptions.) – so you are obviously doing your job brilliantly. you dont state whether you live in the Uk currently or not, but if you live and work in this country, you are behaving illegally if you counsel women not to have abortions. you are under a statutory duty not to give an opinion, under the abortion act 1967, and i would be very interested if you could state what organisation you worked for. not only would they be very interested in your racist behaviour, you also need to be reported the the general medical council.
islam is not going to destroy the world, nor is allah… nor are a few disparate men and women who are murderers.
similarly, the communists were not out to destroy western civilisation… the whole thing smacks of macarthyism to me.
you seem to misunderstand my stance.. i am not pro muslim, nor pro religion, but i do feel that religion in general gives people a moral framework within which to act, and is the basis of the laws of your country. i certainly dont need it, but people do, and no one, especially someone of your level should ever attempt to denote who should and should not believe in a higher power.
in terms of the ‘allah akbar’ statement… (repetition is a symptom of schizophrenia by the way… have tyou had yourself checked out?) isnt it America that has ‘in god we trust’ attitude? this is presumably the attitude that allows them to murder people, OFTEN innocent, in the electric chair or by lethal injection? and isnt it america… this paragon of freedom and fairness that has just decided that torturing people is fairly fine, and that no charges of war crimes will be brought? WHAT A LOVELY COMMUNITY TO HAIL FROM.
anybody can hide behind the idea of a god… i seem to remember bush and blair stating that they felt all right about starting a war they were aware was illegal because god spoke to them in a dream? and what is the death tally in iraq and afghanistan – surely less than 9/11 AND YOU HAVENT EVEN AUGHT THE PERPETRATORS? the behavious of your government is more of an affront to the sad loss of life you have experienced. your anger is misplaced.
your government (im hedging my bets that you are american.. you have that wonderful mixture of lack of understanding, awful communication skills, and belligerant idiocy that denotes that nation) are currently funding and fighting for a government that have just legalised marital rape for 15% of their community, and removed the right of women to be autonomous. and yet these women ‘hide behind their veils’? the only veil anyone is hiding behind is the pretence of freedom of speech, legality and fairness that pervades the US and parts of the UK.
still… you are a wonderful base to show the idiocy of your opinions, so in between your fighting losing battle on the moralilty of abortion please write more.
data protection so i wilnot get into any personal information on my worki do not advise people to make or take amny action merly to counciland question there intentions and their outcomes these are young women girls aged 14 + regardless of what you say if i can help save a life thats good enough for me regardless of the statistics you give me the logic and the polical jargon there is no way in hell you are an atheist you are muslim dont defend something you know nothing about seen as religion is not in your blood so you have no understanding of it stop trying to match the actions spurred by muslims with the faults and failers of US and the uk .well what can i say your an intellegent women but let me tell you intellegence and knowledge does not come from how much you think you know statistically or otherwise or whether you can spell or not intellegence is how you deal with life how you can rationally make morally right decisions and not use good as the fall back peace is all i ask for please read the quarn and tell me why it spits so much hate towards others in not here to kill every muslim because that will make me what i detest most in the world senseless murders in such callousness of ways i am here to stop inocent peopledying for a religion they stand by that endorses it.you dont seem to get where im coming from either no one is perfect but really do you think driving a plane througth a building and killing humanitarian workers is right because it doesnt matter how you dress it up caroline you favour the behavior of the muslim world im not saying you should sit here spurring hatred upon muslims but you seem to justify everything the muslims are doing yet have not once said anything negative to what they have done and how they have done that im just fighting fire with fire here i dont hate muslims i hate the religioni live in and around muslims and so do my children my views are not influenced by the mere fact of them living next to me seing them but the fact that after 9/11 many muslims condoned this and were very happy this happened that is what makes me sick you help me to understand in stead of slating me show me what im missing not being a muslim
And yes I know their are many mistakes in spelling and grammer im just writing really fast and posting my comment you obviously understand what I am saying if you can make a comment about it
you are wrong, in so many ways.
i deny you the right to tell me what religion i may or may not be. i have repeatedly stated that i am not a muslim. i am aware how difficult it is for you to understand that there are white, secular people in britain and beyond that understand how not to be innately racist. it seems to be a concept beyond most of the people on here.
i would advise you not to talk to me about abortion. i intend to complete a masters next year in the issue of abortion and what to do next with the contraceptive clinics in the UK, from a legal and ethical perspective. what you are saying in regards to abortion and the provision of your services is illegal, and perhaps you should have a rethink in terms of your career. from your attitude i would suspect that you are employed through a local health authority first point of contact centre.
data protection covers details held on the public by companies, and so i would not estopp you from giving the name of your organisation. what it would do is estopp you from giving the proportions of the amount of ‘muslims’ that have abortions at your clinic. (although i would suspect you are actually talking about people of asian descent, as it is unusual that you as a counsellor would be authorised to ask that specific bit of information) which you have clearly done in the above posts. this is added to the fact that the equality and diversity policy within your place of employment would mean that people with your views could not be considered for employment, and furthermore, that posting this kind of drivel on a site such as this would consitute a sackable offence.
so i would ask again… are you so sincere in your beliefs above that you would openly talk about them with your employers? in that thread, i would ask you once more to give me the name of the british organisation for which you work. no? thought not.
i am warming to you slightly… your apology for the spelling and ‘grammer’ was nice, and shows a respectful person. so thank you. you state that you live in and around muslims, and that your children have a multi-cultural upbringing. dont you think that contradicts your statements about the ‘muslim world’?
please please please do not think i justify what is happening above. you just have to read my initial posts to see what i felt, and still feel today. My point is that a whole nation of muslims… two million in britain alone, are being vilified and persecuted for the behaviour of a minority – you live amongst muslims, they are decent people, you wouldnt change your behaviour for them, but equally you would not talk in this manner to their faces, because you understand actually how offensive what you say is… we are in danger of radicalising a whole generation because of the way we in britain are behaving, the anti terror laws UNLAWFUL the behaviour of racist police UNLAWFUL invasion of iraq UNLAWFUL the behaviour of US and UK sponsored Afghanistan UNLAWFUL.
you ask me to stop contrasting the behaviour of the UK/US with the behaviour of terrorists. i actually agree you on this point. because the two groups are not the same. the governments are democratically elected people, westernised, educated, comparatively rich, able, (lawyers in most cases), and yet find clever, underhand ways to legalise behaviour that is atrocious. you talk of moral decisions etc… how moral is waterboarding? how moral is it for Isreal to spurt phosperous into gaza? so when i contrast that with terrorist groups, tiny, unrepresentative groups of desperate murderers, i do the governments of the UK and US a great disservice. they should have a higher threshold of behaviour that theses idiots in the video above. they should be held more accountable than impovrished and indoctrinated, ill-educated and brainwashed guerilla fighters in the afghan mountains.
i have yet to meet a muslim that has condoned 9/11. genuinely. i wonder whether you have. the press contributes to this massively.
“Tonight, on ********* news… to give the view of the ‘civilised’ west… a labour polititian… and to give the view of the ‘muslim world’… a hook handed raving lunatic, intent on killing all and sundry due to a basic pyschopathic mindset… ”
not, for instance, a member of the muslim council of britain, who advocate peacefully for integration, education, and equality for all, or a member of the ‘list of the 100 most influential muslim women in britain today’…but the hook handed bigot? thats like representing britain with a member of the national front. ludicrous, and whats worse, is that it gives people like you ammunition to talk so passionately on a subject you know nothing about – and the worst, worst person to talk to is a person who is wrong but sincere. a mistaken but sincere witness can send innocent men to prison.
lastly, you ask me what your missing by not being a muslim. i have no idea. you clearly have a very strong moral stance on a lot of things, and you have brought up children who see nothing wrong or out of the ordinary with living with other communities, you have a job that you feel passionate about (albeit one where i find your position untenable), so essentially, you are doing all right. you dont seem to have a need for religion, or a community – when i say some people need religion, im talking about the elderly, who like the company, and the very young, who benefit from stories explaining a moral value. i would suggest that you have nothing to gain by swapping religions, or taking one up. but dont deny the right for other people to draw comfort from anything, including religion. my personal morality comes from experience, and from an inherent sense of right and wrong, probably with a heavily catholic influence in terms of morals. i know to do right, to not steal, kill etc. the same principles that are in every religion.
now the koran has not changed. ever. if you got the original various gospels, the ones that have been taken out and the ones that remain, you would see language and teachings in excactly the same thread as the koran. i read both early on, at the bequest of my father. the are both lovely books, but you can only read them with the context in mind – and in light of the fact that the original bible teachings bears very little likeness to the st james version that i was taught at school. now the koran hasnt changed, but the british muslims that i know dont want to kill non-believers. this generation do not wish to exterminate homosexuals, although they probably wouldnt like to be one… and when i studied for my law degree, there were more muslim girls than there were boys… (and they far surpassed the boys in terms of intelligence as well, but thats the innate feminist in me talking). i saw muslims mix with gay men, and women smash men down in arguements and debates, again and again and again.
i genuinely dont mean to be rude to you, but your views are frustrating, and racist. am i right in thinking that you read the daily mail?
kill_maim_slaughter ’s comment on Eugene Armstrong Beheading and Death Video
March 30, 2009 at 10:56 pm
stfu you whore, lmao ameriKKKa will and are getting raped, more and more Americans are converting that you could imagine, the future looks bleak for your kind, you cant beat Islam so embrace it, the future is Islam and if that isnt the case then heads or tails DEATH WILL PREVAIL for mankind.
http://www.evilbible.com
wow a muslim supporter that has just justified what I have been saying
amy take note… the link to evil bible will outline numerous instances where the bible is unbelievably brutal – normally the first testament.
what exactly do you want me to say? what was i saying about the ‘hook handed bigot’… you are missing the point almost entirely, in that my message is the vast vast vast majority of british islamic people are not nutters? they are not people who would call themselves ‘killmaimandslaughter’… that they are law abiding, tax paying subjects of the UK and citizens of te EU?
i presume you find the use of the word n****r or p**i unnacceptable. you certainly wouldnt use them at work or encourage your children to use them at school. they (and you) would be excluded. Do i really have to go through all the above posts and copy and paste the uses of those words from those racist cunts above?
do you actually have any arguements to counter mine? or are you increasingly clutching at straws because i have shaken your belief structure?
no way no way there is nothing you can say that can change what i belive my structure is very strong trust me freedom of speech and all that so thank you for pointing that out about the old testament but this is 2009 not bc so the bible can be full of whatever evil it has but how many christains actually carry this out in every day life in this day an age well because you agree with what muslims are doing to their women maybe they should bring shiria law to the uk and usa 100 wips for leaving the house at night and amputating a foot and a hand for stealing is their a line thank you you have made me feel even stronger about how i feel it doesnt matter how intellectual you sound or how many statistics you can throw out their is s growing number of muslims becoming extremists or have extremists views maybe when you are on the recieving end of it you will understand minority or not they force fear and hatred into people and those racists cunts you were talking about was was copied and pasted from a muslim so what is your point it has nothing to do with racism do you think if i see a muslim on the street i will judge them with out speaking to them no im judging what i see from the video and from a global perspective its my opinion
muslims are always trying to blame the usa,uk,christians,jews,hindus e.t.c for all their problems no doubt developed countries have caused many of problems in the past and the present racism killing for oil e.t.c but all im saying is that they just need to look abit closer to home oh caroline seen as you know alot a can you please tell me the evil that the quran has
Im just trying to make you understand this if you do not live around it you will never know what I mean but hey we both have valid points but mine are just based more on experiences than information taken from data or religious sciptures oh well what can i say i just hope the world has peace il just have to agree to disagree except that the world is the way it is for a reason all i can do is keep my children safe and make sure im a good person you dont seem to understand this is my way of thinking according to how ive grown up in society im not easily lead and have my own views and perceptions yet i do not carry how i feel into the outside world i.e. excldue my children from talking to muslims or use racist language i came on here to comment on the video i have just seen on the beheading what can i saw but to say this video is sick and wrong a human taking another humans life based on religions views if muslims do not want to be judged as much as their are being they must look inside their own community/society/religion and stop the extremists calling the name of allah and reading for the quran to hide behind their actions thanks fpr challenging me even though i feel like you have views swaying on the muslim side its your opinion but remember that doesnt make you right can i just ask is it because you an an atheist to the muslim religion if not arent you a humanist?
“seen as you know alot a can you please tell me the evil that the quran has”
AS EVIL AS THE BIBLE.
“what i belive my structure is very strong trust me freedom of speech”
THE G20 RIOTS, FOUR CASES OF POLICE BRUTALITY, S.44 OF THE TERRORISM PROVISIONS STATE THAT A PHOTO CANNOT BE TAKEN OF POLICE. THIS HAS SO FAR BEEN USED MOSTLY AGAISNT TOURISTS AND PEOPLE DOCUMENTING ILLEGAL BEHAVIOUR OF POLICE.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....g20…. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TALK TO ME ABOUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS POLICEMAN REFUSING TO GIVE HIS BADGE NUMBER.
“his is 2009 not bc so the bible can be full of whatever evil it has but how many christains actually carry this out in every day life”
ER… BUSH… BLAIR?? THE SO-CALLED (ex)LEADERS OF THE FREEWORLD? AND MORE TO THE POINT, HOW MANY MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN THAT? YOU STATED THAT…”do you think if i see a muslim on the street i will judge them with out speaking to them ” YES, ACTUALLY, I DO. YOU SEE, TO HAVE NO CONCEPT OF HOW ISLAMIC BRITAIN IS REFORMING AND INTEGRATING INTO OUR WONDERFUL SOCIETY. I ASK YOU AGAIN, HOW MANY MUSLIMS HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THAT CONDONE THIS BEHAVIOUR, AND THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE FACELESS TEENAGE BOYS THAT CALL THEMSELVES ‘KILLMAIMANDSLAUGHTER’.
“their is s growing number of muslims becoming extremists or have extremists views” YES THERE ARE. AND IT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN THE WORLD, SPOUTING ABSOLUTE SHITE WHILST NOT ACTIVELY DOING ANYTHING TO WELCOME THESE PEOPLE INTO TYOUR COMMUNITIES. YOU TRANSFORM INTO A TERRORISTS WET DREAM WHEN YOU SPEAK, AND WHEN YOU CONDONE THE BEHAVIOUR OF THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE US AND UK.
“at muslims are doing to their women maybe they should bring shiria law to the uk and usa 100 wips for leaving the house at night and amputating a foot and a hand for stealing” I THINK I HAVE MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR THAT I DO NOT CONDONE THE MISOGYNIST BEHAVIOUR THAT PERVADES NOT JUST MUSLIM COUNTRIES, BUT ALSO OUT OWN. WE ARE PAID UP TO 30% LESS THAN MEN IN THIS COUNTRY, AND HAVE INDIDIVUALS LIKE YOU WORKING IN SERVICES SUCH AS ABORTION THAT ARE FUNDAMENTAL TO FEMALE EQUALITY OVER HERE. HAVE A THINK ABOUT THAT.
I DONT THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF SHARIA LAW AS IT IS HERE IN BRITAIN. THE SHARIA COUNCIL OF BRITAIN HAVE DONT SO MUCH TO INTEGRATE AND TO EXPLAIN AND ACT UPON THIS IDEA THAT ANY MUSLIM HAS TWO ALLIGIENCES, ONE TO HIS GOD, AND ANOTHER TO THE COUNTRY HE CHOOSES TO LIVE IN. IF THE LAWS OF THE COUNTRY ARE DEEMED TO BE INIMICAL TO THEIR OWN BELEIFS, THE SHARIA COUNCIL OF BRITAIN HAVE SAID THEY MUST LEAVE – AND THIS HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT STATEMENT. I REFER YOU TO… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aishah_Azmi a british muslim who refused to remove her veil to teach englis as a second language. the sharia council of britain condemned this. or the case of the school girl who refused to wear a simple school uniform of a shalwar kameez, and wanted to wear a niqab. she was again told she had no legal basis for this assertion, and the case was thrown out of court. the sharia council of britain again condemed this. we have had a specifc jewish court in britian since the 1930′s, which is not inimical to our laws, and works very very well. people contract into the jewish principles, and can choose to have their concerns heard by a tribunal of jewish academics. their decisions can be appealed to british courts, and any judgments that are inimical to our law are smashed down. this is the way that shariah courts would work in britian… nothing against our laws, no hand chopping, no corporal punishment, but instead a stricter, more moral, and less eivdence based system, running in conjunction with the WONDERFUL british justice system. one example of a informal shariah ruling in the UK was a muslim teenager involved in beating up another. the whole family were involved in the punishment, which included a far higher payment in compensation that under UK law, and he was made to work around his education to pay of the sum (as i recall 300% the amount a UK court would order) as quickly as possible. i would suggest that people like you who love inflammatory subjects, and whos opinions consist of what is written in the daily mail would love that outcome – i suspect that you would be regularly upset with the leniency of our court system.
in conclusion on shariah… never ever try to discuss what you dont understand, particularly with a law student. do you condemn other coutnries for their laws and for their behaviour? i see nothing written about chinas human rights abuses, nothing about forced sterilisation and abortions (nazi like), nothing about the extreme pioverty and virtual slavery that people in the third world are condemned to by the actions of their government. why suggest that all muslims are alike, particularly when we have a thriving comunity of fanastic people that have worked hard their whole lives to move themselves and their families away from regimes like tribal pakistan, or afghanistan. AND I DONT THINK I NEED TO REPEAT THAT YOUR TAX MONEY IS PAYING FOR MEN IN AFGHANISTAN TO RAPE THEIR WIVES. even you are stupid enough not to get something ive stated five or six times.
“you have made me feel even stronger about how i feel it doesnt matter how intellectual you sound or how many statistics you can throw out their is s growing number of muslims becoming extremists or have extremists views ”
QUITE. WHATEVER THE REALITY BACKED BY STATISTICS AND ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE RATHER THAN JUST A VAGUE RACIST SENSIBILITY WILL NEVER CHANGE YOUR MIND, OR ELEVATE YOU FROM A LIFE OF IGNORANCE.
“m judging what i see from the video and from a global perspective its my opinion”
WONDERFUL. SO YOU JUDGE A COMMUNTIY OF MILLIONS, POSS BILLIONS OF PEOPLE FOR THE ACTIONS OF 5 MEN. THATS BRILLIANT. AND THIS GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE YOU SEEM TO HAVE SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ISNT THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU UNDERNEATH IT ALL, WERENT YOU THE ONE WHO WANTED ME TO STOP CONTRASTING THE FAILINGS OF OUR COUNTRY WITH THAT OF THE WORLD? THE ESTOPPS YOU FROM DISCUSSING THE GLOBAL SITUATION.
what exactly do you mean when you say i dont live around it? most of your views are so obtuse and ill defined that you patently dont have a view.
it warms my heart when you say that you do not carry around these ideas in ‘real life’ or the ‘outside world’… which is exactly my point regarding people like ‘killmainslaughter’… its very easy to expound racist and outdated views when you sit behind a computer screen – its encouraging that you actually KNOW that this behaviour is wrong, but awful to think that you can condone espousing this hatred, as long as its impersonal, and written on a website.
damn right you dont teach your kids this stuff, they should be taken away from you if you did. bear in mind that they are the next generation, and they will have to deal with the mess you make by condemning vast swathes of muslims to this vague mccarthyist tautology of ‘terrorism’. i would be interested to know how you would define terrorism.
how dare you suggest the vast majority of peaceful muslims in the world, but particularly britain must somehow apologise for the behaviour of a few? in that strain of thought, i must surely apologise for the ridiculous behaviour of the BNP and national front… i refuse to do so, they may be white, british, and more specifically english, but they do not represent me, nor the majority of non-racist england/UK.
“thanks fpr challenging me even though i feel like you have views swaying on the muslim side its your opinion but remember that doesnt make you right can i just ask is it because you an an atheist to the muslim religion if not arent you a humanist?”
i dont know what you mean, i actually cant decipher it. i would accept that I am a humanist (having read the satanic bible on a very boring childhood trip to america) humanist is a long tradition, and that book is well worth a read. i would suggest it.
i dislike trying to give myself a label. but i like to think that i educated myself, and take a lot from whatever i read, be it the bible, the quran, the buhddist scriptures, dostoyevsky, tolstoy, jean paul statre, tom robbins, burroughs, or virignia woolf. all have something to teach us, the key is not to be led, and to get all the information before you make up your mind without a basis… which is what you seem to have done.
you also seem to have lost the will to fight against what i am saying. that is mainly because you are wrong, and it is difficult for someone to have their eyes opened, to accept it, and move on. but for the sake of your kids, and the sub-conscience racist behaviour that i am sure you feel you hide so well, but in actuality cant, and impart on a daily basis.
No its got nothing to do with losing the fight with you on this subject I will agree to disagree or we will be here forever as their are discrepincies on both parts due to differences of opinion (which im intitled to) I belive im right to some extent and so do you this is what makes the world go round nothing can change the way I feel and think I can sit here arguing with you about this allday but it will not change the fact that innocent people are dying in the most horriblest of ways everyday and belive it or not we all have a part to play in this I still stand by what I say thanks on your view anyway
ps Im not a racist, because I have a view on a culture/religion that is not my own does not make me a racist there is nothing for me to hide I dont go around calling anybody anything so dont make the assumption that I do you have said enough negative things about the bible usa,uk yet I am not calling you a racist(subconscience or not).we all have views on different cultures/people/religions and so on if we didnt we willbe a rosy little world wouldnt he its called THE HUMAN RACE.
I noticed your everything you dispise, practice what you preach i quote “having read the satanic bible on a very boring childhood trip to america)”,”amy take note… the link to evil bible will outline numerous instances where the bible is unbelievably brutal – normally the first testament.” , this is not racist?
right… time to educate you sweetie pie..
racism is defined as…
” the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races.”
please contrast that with your above comments on ‘the muslim race’ in terms of persecution of women, in terms of principles of islamic law, in terms of your general attitude. you have yourself inadvertantly stated that your views are racist, when you admitted that you would not state these feelings to islamic people themselves, nor would you teach your children these principles.
“will not change the fact that innocent people are dying in the most horriblest of ways everyday and belive it or not we all have a part to play in this”
of course this wont help. your langauge doesnt help, your ignorance doesnt help, the fact that you carry over these feelings to your job doesnt help. it is very true when you say we all have a part to play and i would encourage you to look at your own behaviour, and have a think about the effects on people honestly following a legitimate faith, and getting on with their lives. the killing is from both sides, but the death toll from western guns is far higher than that of islamasist terrorism.
“I noticed your everything you dispise, practice what you preach i quote “having read the satanic bible on a very boring childhood trip to america)”,”amy take note… the link to evil bible will outline numerous instances where the bible is unbelievably brutal – normally the first testament.” , this is not racist?”
of course its not racist… if i had said… “the bible is incredibly brutal in places, and all christians behave like this in this day and age.” i would accept your charge of racism. you seem to misunderstand the satanic bible (like so many other concepts and writings) it is a pop-literature version of the humanist theorum. you should check it out, as i have said before, you are in need of an education.
this is racism…
“muslims are always trying to blame the usa,uk,christians,jews,hindus e.t.c for all their problems” AMY
” you agree with what muslims are doing to their women ”
AMY
both make vast assumptions based on race. i accept the charge of racism against americans, as i occasionally go over the top. i have american friends that do what they can to fight against the prevalent racist attitude, and the election of obama is really a step forward.
it would be racist (and untrue) for instance to state that we have a large problem with domestic violence in this country, and therefore all british men are wife beaters. not only is this not true, its making vast assumptions based on race. CAN YOU BEGIN TO SEE THE DISTINCTION HERE?
“I will agree to disagree or we will be here forever as their are discrepincies on both parts due to differences of opinion (which im intitled to)”
im sure you will agree to disagree. i dont. i dont stand for the type of crap you spout. you are more than entitled to a difference of opinion, for example… you stated above that you liked working in the abortion field because you ‘save lives’. this is inimical to my position – and you are wrong and hypocrytical to state that an abortion is ending a ‘life’ rather than the potentiality of a life, and is therefore, in your twisted mind murder. YOU ARE ENTITLED TO THAT. what you are most definately not entitled to is the right to make statements that constitute inciting racial hatred. almost all of your dicta wrapped up together could land you in court, lose you your job, detriment your chances of getting another job, and cast a bad light on your ability as a mother.
so when you attempt to call me racist for stating that the bible is as brutal in places as the quran, try not to close your eyes to your behaviour, and as always— please please please stop trying to talk about things you dont understand, you just make yourself feel and look ridiculous.
OOOO AND PS… can you actually bother to read my posts and deal with the issues therein rather than just ignorantly spout shite, its getting tiresome repeating the same things over and over again. im more that willing to educate you amy, god knows you need it, but i need an able and willing student, if you get my point
Thanks
Ps education has nothing to do with it as the most educated people make the most irrational decisions example tony blair .I dont know what you want me to say thanks I now agree with everything you are saying and the world has now become a better place.seen as you said you keep repeating yourself im not expecting a reply so thanks for your imput goodbye.
im very glad to have made a difference to your life, and its wonderful that you now realise that blair is and was wrong. i feel better that you have (albeit in a rather passive-aggressive manner) realised that you have no answers to the questions you posed – which is the only possible way that you react like a 12 year old disempowered child.
the world has now become a marginally better place… as you said above, we all have responsibility for the world and the actions of others, and now you have come to your senses i certainly feel better subjectively.
it has been a pleasure privding you with an education, and my last request to you is that you pass your new found attitude onto your kids,
good luck with your life.
xcx
does anybody out there know what ken was doing their in the first place their has been alot of conspiracy theories
I hope his suffering was not long what ever the intension he didnot deserve to die in the way he did so god rest his soul
this is your lack of education and attention to the details of life shining through again amy…
you refer to ‘ken’, meaning kenneth bigley, who was an english worker kidnapped, ransomed and murdered by a different gang of murderous cunts.
the poor man in the video above was a civil engineer (they design the infrastructure of cities, as opposed to architects, who design individual projects. a civil engineer once described his job relative to architects as the difference between a surgeon (C.engineer) and a nurse (architect).)
there is a point to be made here. a job in a war torn country will pay on average 750% more than the same job in the UK or US, for instance. (for instance, a year placement with ‘mars ltd’, as a chemical engineer will be £15,000 p/annum, a similar position with a similar supra-national company in africa pays £45,000 p/annum – and the figures are much higher in times of war, and also in the field of civil engineering.)
this is because of the massive danger, and by accepting a massive pecuniary benefit he was not only agreeing to do the job, but submitting to that danger inherent to any war torn country. furthermore… he, his government and that of the UK benefitted from smashing up what used to be a fairly functional country, in terms of infrastructure. have a read about the ‘halliburton’ company, and see if you still feel that the war was justified on the basis the governments did – AND REMEMBER THAT IF YOU JUSTIFY KILLING IRAQI WOMEN, MEN AND CHILDREN YOU ARE BY PROXY CONDONING THE BEHAVIOUR ABOVE.
another poster above made the point that EUGENE was wearing army insignia, and he was armed. i cant find any credible source on this, and dont remember it at the time, but if true, it certainly makes these people LESS culpable. the same level of culpability that a UK/US soldier should shoulder when killing ‘insurgants.’ (or people as i like to call them…) i can only find references to him being ‘unarmed’, but mainly in posts on sites like this… and we all know how much you can trust a ranting american right wing lunatic. you should look for the story on ‘reuters.com’ the financial times, times, guardian or independant archives, accessed on the website – steer clear of your fave, the daily mail. its drivel.
you talk of conspiracy theories… i would have a look at your own posts on the ‘muslim world’… as if all muslims are somehow connected, and regularly meet up to have a natter and plot the end of the world. now that is a conspiracy theory of massive proportions.
and ps… this is really starting to annoy me now amy.
‘THERE’ as in ‘take that cat and put it over THERE’
‘THEIR’ as in ‘That person over THERE is pissing on a right hand car wheel… it must be THEIR car’…
if you write it out three times it should stick. i presume you dont help your kids with THEIR homework?
caroline why do you have to be so nasty I didnt target my message at you so why are you being so rude thanks for correcting me if my messages are bothering you then please ignore them as this is a free site to comment on it was in no way targeted at you or posted for you to reply in a negative way you will be happyto know that thanks to you this is the last time I will post anything up im fed of of the abuse you keep throwing at me so bye
“this is a free site to comment on it”
quite amy. quite. im glad you arent posting again, although its a promise you have made before. you should be ashamed at your conduct, both in your abuse of the lexicon and your racist attitude.
so off you pop.
wow im sad about that he didnt even stand a chance and well it reminded me of my fiances dad i cried watching this
I would use an axe it’s better or a chainsaw
what world are we living in.Relgion can cause such distruction this is so messed up they need to take a hard look at what they are worshiping.
guy under me is a dumbass
we are in their terriory this shit happens from time to time, if they were here attacking us wouldnt you fight the fuck back?
stop complaining you ignorant hick
damn right. we invaded, we marched in in direct contravention of ‘war laws’… and we expect these ill educated people not to fight back in the best way they know how?
we (the west) are living in a dream world. for every man executed in this way, we (USA and UK) kill 1000 of their women, children, and unarmed inhabitants. because this man is white, it causes an uproar. the people writing above are just awful examples of the human race. once we realise that we cannot indiscriminately kill another race of HUMANS then we cannot complain when they kill one of ‘ours’. totally agree ‘yes’.
and also… totally agree with the wonderful british legal system that ONCE AGAIN proved that the UK is a free and fair society, and that criminality of such a gross extent as home grown terrorism will NOT BE PROVEN by circumstantial evidence and racist bigotry. LONG LIVE THE UK, AND LONG LIVE BRITISH JUSTICE. i love this country, and what we stand for.
Damn. I actually got light headed after seeing this. I can’t believe how long he kept screaming, or trying to. His head was almost off, and he was still alive. The worst thing I’ve ever seen. Fuck those rag heads.
yeah… those ‘fucking ragheads eh’… we should kill them all… men, women and children…
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t.....232278.ece
because.. that will really sort them out.
for fucks sake, will you please educated yourselves as to what is going on in the world, and to what is making these people so radical.
grow up.
Wow. The only thing that bothers me about this is the fact that they did that.
And why hasn’t the world come to an end yet?
I’ve been reading these comments…and you know what?
You know why they do this?
Religion and Hate.
You know what else?
They want to hear you gurgle and squeal too…especially if you aren’t Muslim like they are…Kill the Heretic…that’s the Religion…don’t believe me? Look it up.
very true religion and hate simple as ,no point beating around the bush. Im also suprised the world hasnt come to an end maybe it will soon enough many extremists have promised death to the west so watch out 9/11 just the start
9/11 wasn’t the start it was jus the most visceral example of a fight back… i actually can’t stand all these fucking conspiracy theorists..
terrible people.
well I suspose thats life the world is full of sick hatred in every religion, race and culture we can never grasp the full extent or war and what it actually achieves. we must remember every action has a concequence.This is they way of the world, instead of hating each other we must try to understand each other as both nations have many faults as this is the way to progression.
caroline in no way am I trying to be rude or trying to oppose what you have said but I feel that your previous comment ‘because this man is white it causes an uproar’ is incorrect this is a terrible thing that has happened to an individual human being whether the man is white,black or hispanic it will still cause the same feeling of shock and sickness.Reading previous comments on this footage I feel that many have commented from initial reactions to what they have seen as it is a sick and inhumane act. Although I do not in anyway condone racial hatred I belive that every stereotype derives from truth yet we must as individuals learn to tolerate and live with the innocent individuals who do not support muslim extremism or any other type of religious violence
sigh. maybe. and i appreciate the balanced approach you take.
i read in the press today about an american solider that went insane and shot five of his colleagues at a ‘stress centre’ within the field i think. it was only reported in about hundred words, yet there is a double page spread when 1 or 2 british soldiers particularly are killed in the field… and not by a guy so disaffected with the brutality of what he is employed to do, but by people who believe they are fighting for their own country and way of life… (or more usually, ‘friendly fire’… what a fucking paradoxical statement)
there are two things that upset me about that story… one.. the lack of focus on the five men killed by the solider, and two… that forty odd afghan civilians were killed last weekend, reported in about the same amount of words. How can we still send our own children, siblings and relatives to these pathetic battles? depriving not only ‘our’ people of lives, but also the people of the world? i just cant understand, nor can i condone.
do not get me wrong, i am british, white, female… (one of the largest persecuted MAJORITIES in the world) but from what i see in the press, and when i talk to people on the street… these ‘racial stereotype[s]‘ do not come from reality or ‘truth’, they come from prejudice allowing you to draw vast conclusions based on race. Not one of the islamic people i know advocate violence, but all are angry about the loss of lives, both islamic and otherwise. i am too – and at some point, you have to realise that it is our behaviour towards the world that is radicalising people… as you said… “the world is full of sick hatred in every religion, race and culture.”
i would disagree slightly, and state that religion does a lot of good for a whole lot of people… the energy is there, and it depends entirely on how you channel it.
In saying that, im not stupid enough to be religious. Which i spose it actually what you were saying – so in conclusion.. stop talking about racial steretypes and you are pretty much bang on
I’m trying to work up the courage to watch this… I’m not sure I can. i have the sound turned all the way down. call me a pussy if you like, but it’s a very uncomfortable thing to sit and watch someone’s life leave their body for real and in such a violent manner. this video certainly opened a huge can of worms. bicker bicker bicker… war is a necessary evil. period. and I’m in absolute disgust at those people who are rooting on those killers. what if it was your brother they killed? what if it was your father? there is no justification in their actions. none! now lets all act like adults and have a civilized discussion and stop flaming each other, okay? nobody cares if you hate americans or the british or anyone else. the matter at hand is that religious extremists are making the whole lot look bad… it’s like a stereotype. and the innocent are obviously suffering. i’m not saying that we’re not guilty of doing some terrible things but this isn’t us. this is not us!
“war is a necessary evil. period.”
- ok then, so be it. continue to kill and maim, and it will be done back to you. you are not a master race, your group does not hold any more importance than the next group… so when you talk about…
” what if it was your brother they killed? what if it was your father?”
- what if their brothers, fathers, sisters, mothers, children, and friends were killed by invading troops? you cannot condone and support one set of killing and ridicule the reasons for the others slaughter? Surely?
“now lets all act like adults and have a civilized discussion and stop flaming each other, okay?”
- could we possibly drop the passive aggressive crap and get to the real issue… that there are tiny members of any community that behave improperly… think bush, blair, now obama… think isreal, think bin laden, think al qaeda, think IRA, think hitler… the only connection is that they waged a war, on OTHER HUMANS.
“the matter at hand is that religious extremists are making the whole lot look bad…”
- NO. the matter at hand is that innocent people are dying because of invading governments,fuelled by ‘public opinion’, ‘oil’, and the inflammatory comments and attitudes of people like you…. sitting at home, moralising and providing support for an illegal war, with no causal nexus to the pain and the misery… No ability to see that everyone who walks into war is ruined…. look at the suicide rates, the occurence of PTSD, the criminality, the drug use, the drinking of ex-armed forces, in both the US and the UK…
and, in keeping that all in mind, how can you justify sending your brother… your father… into this semi-existence, blighted by depression and addiction? Never mind ruining their bodies and mental health by sending them into war… they go to smash up the countries and homes of otherr countries? have you seen whats going on in the swat valley? the amount of civilian people hurt in Gaza? the wrecking of zimbabwe? its just an exercise in human misery, all of it. useless.
you may well…”bicker bicker bicker”… but actually i want to talk about the important issues here… why is it that we are yet again being led into a false war in afghanistan? for a country that has just legalised child and marital rape? we march in, in order to protect a government that is passing these laws? radicalising yet another generation of people, by smashing up their homes and their country?
another british git getting gutted fuck the british and the us this is a muslim world get used to it he probably deserved it.If you dont belive in islam this is your fate
sigh… not only not true… but a fascists wet dream all rolled up in one comment.
get a life… reach for some education.
caroline, I’m just saying what I feel and i’m not supporting any war. I hate it just as much as you do. I’m just saying that it happens. I don’t like it, I don’t want it. look what it does to people. I hate that I didn’t understand the inner workings of how we decided to go to war… I hate that i voted for a douche bag back in ’04. I hate how our government keeps things, stupid things might I add, secret to make them look like they’re doing the right thing. I hate that when wars are fought, everyone gets a taste… not just the people who are directly involved. you’re right, we are making huge war-time mistakes. going to fight a war that never should have been fought… bah… you seem well educated, I can appreciate that and so far you are the only person that isn’t using vulgarity in this thread… I admire your conviction, I really do and I’m interested in the things most of you guys have to say. I’ll admit when I say something wrong, and i’d like it if you would correct me if I have bad info. thank you?
im not saying you have bad info, or that you are wrong.. i try to argue against the comments on here that are really prejudiced, mainly because people dont realise, and are influenced by the behaviour of a few… and i also understand that a lot of people read the papers in their own country and see it that way.. im white, british, non-muslim, and non-religious.
after reading your above post again, i would suggest that you watch it. it actually changed my life, and the way that i thought about everything. to see a man actually physically lose his life on camera didnt make me militantly against muslims, it genuinely made me militant against a human loss of life – all you have to do is imagine the fight back that you as a good american, and me as a good british citizen would wage… if someone invaded our own countries. just imagine the nazi invasion…
we would be proud to fight against that, no? that is all these people feel, all they are working against. i find it difficult to justify smashing up someones (fairly) functional country… e.g. iraq… seven years down the line, no sewage system, no education, no medical care, because it is a war zone… how much better than a dictatorship is that?
genuinely – and just to result in a situation like afghanistan – where that have just legalised marriage for girls over the age of menstruation – i started my periods at nine. could i have consented to sex? much less marriage? and yet this is what our governments put money and aid towards? and then marital rape? how do you feel about a LAW that states that a man can have sex with his wife every four days WHETHER SHE CONSENTS OR NOT?
thats rape in my book… i couldnt imagine my husband demanding sex in that manner… no means no.. surely?
i despair sometimes about the american press… even the american law students I speak to have no answers… and the maj of politicians are lawyers… so where do we go from here? maybe a fora for people who want to watch beheadings is innapropriate for me and my rantings… but where else to confront the bigotry?
to be very fair to you, (and it is very different to what i normally encounter on here) you have thrown no abuse whatsoever… so tell me what you think… do muslims get the same voice as christian americans? are there muslims in america stating that these people do not speak for them? and if not…. is there a reason for that?
YOU WILL NEVER SEEN ANYONE SUFFER LIKE THESE MOTHERFUCKERS. WORDS CANNOT EXPLAIN HOW HORRIBLE YOU WILL BE TREATED IN HELL YOU FUCKS.
No. they don’t at all. they are watched closer than the christian majority, they are persecuted and I personally don’t want that. I want them to have the same rights and privileges that I do. it isn’t fair to them. they are only trying to be good citizens. I wish we’d gone and done this in a different way. I have family in the middle east who are soldiers and I talk to them frequently and they hate being over there, but honestly, all they want to do is help them and not fight. I unfortunately can see why they see us as infidels as we came in guns blazing bombs dropping and then after everyone’s dead we ask the questions. I guess the u.s. is no master of subtlety. by the way, I did watch it. I had to turn the sound off. all this crap that the world is going through really makes me question the existence of god at all because if this whole thing is over him, why won’t he stop it? if he is up there he must like it. you are very intelligent, and you speak your mind very well. and as a stubborn person, it’s hard for me to look at certain things and let it impact me. but you have succeeded.
the truth is:
there are many “gods”. but i myself being a christian only believe in the one true god.
muslims have their own god, Allah, and in the name if their god they kill.
Read the Quarran (spelling?). The art of converting is either convert to muslim, or you shall die. that is the facts people. Kill the heretic. I’ll say it over and over again. And it’s not just my opinion, it is the facts.
Lou, what you said about 9/11 being just the start of it isn’t the truth. The radical muslims have been doing this kind of thing for centuries. It’s nothing new, just the way it always has been. BUT, i can say that when those planes hit those towers, i remember vividly watching the streets in the middle east turn into parties, with american flags aflame, signs being held “death to america”. do people forget these things? i was in eight grade…my second period science class…i’ll remember the moment in time for the rest of my life, and i’ll also remember the people celebrating the tragedy that took place on that day. And the thing that burns into my memory is what my little brother, who was only 8 at the time said with tears rolling down his face as we watched the news: “We have to kill them all daddy”
They want us dead. Period. it’s not a matter of america being over there trying to help them. it’s in the name of Allah. convert or die. and i’m sorry, but it’s the truth. christians used to be the same way…some still are…religion spawns hate and turmoil, but can also bring love and bliss. however without one you cannot have the other…dark without the light, hate without love, yin and yang. order and chaos.
and i honestly think it’s pointless for us to be over there with our soldiers acting as stand in police officers. so yes, i oppose this “war”. but back to my point.
this video here puts into focus of what these people are capable of. they kill not for the thrill of it, not for the excitement of it, but in the name of what they “believe” in.
it scares me, knowing that just halfway around the world 9 out of 10 muslim men would rape and gut me, and laugh the entire time, just because i’m christian. not because i’m white, not because i’m american. because i believe in jehovah and christ. it’s the facts, the world needs to open their eyes and see it.
“muslims have their own god, Allah, and in the name if their god they kill.”
oh… so bush didnt kill in the name of christianity? he didnt tell the world that his own personally favoured god ‘spoke to him’ in a dream and assured him that the war was ok and rightful? and he didnt team up with the only other rabidly christian leader in Europe… a Mr Blair? gotcha. There are many examples of rape, pillage, mass killing in the bible. the same sort of scenes that we see in iraq and afghanistan… you seem to misunderstand that the challenge to the muslim world is the same as the challenge to many third world countries, christian, muslim, or not… to stop regressing, and to start modernising… or ‘democratising’ as the americans like to call it. I asked an american politics student why afghanistan is such a mess, bearing in mind that america hailed it as a shining example of how muslim countries should behave… his answer… “we didnt democratise it properly”.
?? the real question here is pluralisation… the ability to state that a person has a choice whether to be a muslim or not, and having communties that relate to each other, both in their own locality, and on an intenational level. comments such as “there are many “gods”. but i myself being a christian only believe in the one true god.”… are belligerent, and the source of the problem. your ‘one true god’ is false, and an idea rather than a certainty… i in no way begrudge you a religion, but please dont state that your god is true… you have no idea, and possess only a mere spes or hope that you are right, and that your god exists.
“Lou, what you said about 9/11 being just the start of it isn’t the truth. The radical muslims have been doing this kind of thing for centuries. It’s nothing new, just the way it always has been.”
WRONG. this is how humans have behaved for centuries… incidentally, since the major world religions have moved away from female based worship, and onto monotheistic religious structures… women have moved away from being the centre of families and worship, and have been pillioried as either the ‘madonna’ or the ‘whore’. the crusades are the initial historical example, but the need of america to smash up other countries is inherent in practically every foreign policy that has ever been enacted. Lets stop. lets pull out. if you are sposed to be the great nation leading the rest of the world… then lead. we are aware that war doesnt work. we are aware that it fails so many people on both sides. we are aware that a war can radicalise a whole generation of kids, only to be surprised when those kids become adults and create merry hell… we have the power to stop it, and yet dont.
“Read the Quarran (spelling?).”
spelling indeed.
“And the thing that burns into my memory is what my little brother, who was only 8 at the time said with tears rolling down his face as we watched the news: “We have to kill them all daddy””
im not even going to pick apart that comment, other than to say, you and your whole family need help. 8 year olds do not want to kill… they copy the behaviour of the adults in the family. you all need to speak to a psychiatrist…. and i seriously worry about the mental health of that young boy, who is so obviously damaged by the visceral nature of what he saw. YOU SHOULD have spoken to him calmly and seriously, explaining that killing and detriment is the product of every war. you should have explained to him that the men that carried out that atrocity at some point in their lives had their lives damaged, and probably turned to their fathers and said… “they must die daddy”. you are in danger of causing serious harm to that child, and if i had any way of finding out where you lived, I would immediately contact the terrestrial equivalent of the socal services to give your family the intervention and help it so patently needs.
“They want us dead. Period. ”
you want them dead, no?
“it’s not a matter of america being over there trying to help them. it’s in the name of Allah. convert or die.”
have you ever spoken to a muslim that has told you to convert or die? didnt think so. come to think of it… do you have any contact with any american muslims whatsoever? didnt think so. so you are basically stating what the hook handed bigots of the world are saying… oh… i see… so really… that is exactly the same as me stating that the KKK are true representatives of america?? NO? you mean you arent all raving racists?
“and i honestly think it’s pointless for us to be over there with our soldiers acting as stand in police officers. so yes, i oppose this “war”. but back to my point.”
you have no idea what your point is… i do however… it is just a panache of mindless racism, with no reason and no thread of logic or argument. your soldiers are not acting as police officers, they are invading, killing, maiming, and bombing. ‘period’.
“knowing that just halfway around the world 9 out of 10 muslim men would rape and gut me,”
and 99% of all statistics are made up on the spot. and ‘just’ halfway round the world is such a stupid comment i have to highlight it.
“because i believe in jehovah and christ. it’s the facts, the world needs to open their eyes and see it.”
it is genuinely up to you whatever falsity you believe in to get you through your sad sad life… allah, jehovah, the aliens on the moon.. whatever. but consider this. ive read the bible, i know the attitude of christ… i know the aspects of his teaching that are agreeable and worth society taking note. do you genuinely think that ‘he’ or ‘she or ‘it’ will accept you into ‘heaven’ with that attitude? what about forgiveness and understanding? turning the other cheek? i cant quite fathom what species of christianity is taught in america to provoke an 8 year old to make a murderous statement like that… certainly different, more millitant, and pathetically non-questioning than the species taught in the UK.
I watched this and its one of the worst things I’ve ever seen! But whats even sicker is some of these ignorant posts. Muslims don”t approve of this it”s the people who do these things are just evil products of hate who have twisted religion to justify there actions.. Christians have done horrible things throughout history all religions have been twisted to fit the motives of fanatics the kkk,witch trials the Spanish inquisition were all god fearing Christian’s doing the lords work so they claim. So have people who follow Judaism they did things to Christians so on and so on. funny thing is all three religions believe in the same god just different prophets. So instead of all of this hate them all and stereotyping hate the individuals who did this. Don’t hate the others who there are more of and want the same things for there family as we do here were there not that different most try to do whats right and are not crazy fanatics .
“Maybe then we could all fucking try to find some measure of peace and all of this horrible shit would stop. The more you feed and preach your own hate the closer you become to being one of these evil assholes who can do something like this to some innocent man who gets caught in the cross-hairs of your fucked and twisted beliefs
finally… someone who actually talks sense and knows the subject.
caroline, i was stating the facts.
read the muslim bible.
and eat your words.
and my little brother was speaking of the people partying in the streets in the middle east, and the children saying “IF YOU KILL OSAMA I BE THE NEXT OSAMA!”
you seem to forget these things…
candy… i have. i have also read the bible. tis the same… I try not to comment on things i dont know about – you dont seem to have the same restraint.
what facts were you referring to exactly? that jehovah is the one true god? come now… even you dont believe that…. you just hope to hell (quite literally apparently) that you have got it right, and use your faith as an excuse for your psychopathic tendancies – just exactly the same as these disgusting killers above, and the armed forces.
Im all for religion in a sense that it improves peoples lives – encourages morality and personal growth. i am storng enough in my morality not to have to belong to that community – im not, in a sense, weak enough to need a religion. i would suggest that the issue here isnt the koran, it is not the bible, it it the psychos that beleive in it.
just out of interest, do you believe that the world was created in 7 days? how do you feel about homosexuality? divorce? abortion?
your little brother is damaged, and has been brought up improperly. you are responsible for creating the next generation of killers – and that is really, really sad. it doesnt really matter who he was talking about – he is an eight year old boy that was talking of murder, which is fundamentally wrong and inappropriate… and what is even worse, you use it as a shining example of how islamasism has affected the world.
Ive said it before and ill say it again – no eight year old talks of murder, unless his family have taught him to. my children would get taken to get some help if they talked like that. it throws shame on you, him, and your family.
i hate these arab motherfuckers!!!! I dont know y there was such a big deal when american soldiers were torturing Iraqi terrorist at that prison in Iraq. After watching this, all terrorist captured by the U.S should be decapitated as well!!!!!!
Notice your hatred of these men. Notice how you wish the same on them and praise a war that they may be destroyed. Notice how you forget they are protesting and defending against a foreign invader. You would do the same, don’t ever think other wise, hypocrite. Of course it is wrong, but he is already dead and nothing you can say or do will ever change that. Instead of moving on, rebuilding your hearts, ever attempting to practice forgiveness (like all Gods command) and trying to figure out a way to stop such things from happening again, you point and shake your finger in judgment and perpetuate further acts of murder be it by your very own hands or through the support of somebody else’s involvement in war. It’s amazing how the human self destructive killer instinct is so easily passed on from generation to generation. And you eat it up with open arms, cold hearts and preprogrammed little minds.
If you think that the image of this mans head being cut off is bad, you should see what bullets and bombs do at mass, not just to the men, but women and children too. And don’t ever think for a moment that this is the worse thing that can happen to you. More colorful offenses take place everyday, trust me. And that’s only in life.
I personally get a kick out of how instead of ever learning from the mistakes of human history, you constantly repeat them. Never growing, never learning and never evolving. The only thing you learn is newer and better ways to further kill. Peace be achieved when my enemies are dead should be the motto of all human kind. And if that wasn’t bad enough, you insist that it happens in the most inventive and disgusting ways imaginable. So go ahead and condemn the actions of these men for practicing their old world blood feud ways, you are no different in your holding of grudges and wishing harm in the name of vengeful justice. It only proves that you deserve the things you do to one another.
If there is no God, then you have nothing to fear but eachother and by all means keep killing, it will all be over soon.
If there is….I’m sure he is shaking his head in disgust at the actions of these men, those like them, those that support them, those that oppose them in hatred and all that wish harm on one another. Be it through typed words, spoken aloud or acted out, it all shows what’s really in your heart.
Simply said, you don’t have to cut a mans head off or fight in a war to have blood on your hands. Simply stay angry, hold your grudges and support humans killing humans. Just know that just because it’s war doesn’t make it right for either side. And always know that God is not going to back you up when your shuffling each other off this mortal coil the way you do. I’m sure he is tired of you butchering each other in his name. I’m sure he’s tired of you using the gift of mind to invent better destruction.
I don’t have to tell you how blood thirsty humans are. Whether you liked this video or not, we all felt compelled to view this mans demise, be it for entertainment or otherwise.
I’m sure that instead of taking a moment to think about any of this, all of you will just get angry and attempt to make yourselves feel better my trying to ridicule me over your keyboards. You will trade the possibility of thinking out side of the box and lessons possibly learned for more closed minded anger and self important pride fueled retaliation.
If there could be anything I could ever love about the human animal, it would be that.
All are guilty and I will see you soon.
I’m white and english, a father of five, self employed law abiding and pay my way through life, so i have an opinion on the war in iraq and know soldiers who have toured in iraq and afghanistan, firstly, we shouldnt have gone to war in iraq, no wmds!, and bin laden was a poor excuse to go to war afghanistan! The biggest mistake, in my humble opion , is that no British squaddie’s life is worth losing in a far away country who are not a direct threat to us. Terrorist activiy in pakistan and amongst british muslims should not be ignored, i live in a deprived area i suppose, i see radical muslim comments and activity, there are large numbers of anti white/ anti uk/usa muslims locally, i worry for my kids, anyone who lives in Britiain and says there is no need for anti muslim (radicals) behaviour hasnt lived amongst them, I will definately support the BNP this time, countries going to the dogs – if the radical muslim sympahisers love them so much, fine, go to Pakistan or Afghanistan, let the British people keep there identity, this is actually not a multicultural society at all, Personally i would withdraw our troops now, Brave soldiers fighting for an shambles of a government who get spit on by some british muslims on their return, some bBritish people putting johnny foreigner first, simply its not on, some people make me puke and i hope you remeber this when your son or daughter marries a raghead or gets sold crack by them! Thankfully by NOvember 2010 we will be starting a new life in New Zealand, god bless the uk and its allies, god help the British way of life.
any1 who has decapitated, tortured, or killed an innocent men like this man was should be decapitated themselves. I think all terrorist who are capable of doing such horrors deserve to be decapitated. i heard that the Muslim bible says that a man who steals should have their hands cut off??!! the funny thing is that it actually DOES happen in these retarded ass countries. these people are fuckin savages!! Anybody who thinks that innocent civilians should have their heads cut off deserves to die!! Anyone who thinks that you should cut off someones hands for stealing should have their own hands cutoff!!
A video was posted here earlier about a man having his arm amputated, and having his foot amputated as well for stealing a t.v. i admit stealing the t.v. was wrong, but did it ever occur to the people who did the amputation that maybe that man stole the t.v to sell it in order to buy food considering they’re living in a fucking third world country!! If this is what the muslim bible teaches than FUCK ALLAH, AND FUCK ALL THE DUMBASSES WHO THINK IT’S RIGHT TO DO THESE CRAZY ASS THINGS!!! What kind of a bible teaches people to cut other peoples hands off?? I dont know much about the muslim religion, but if this is true than they are really some fucked up motherfuckers!!!
Any 1 tryin to defend these terrorist by sayin that they are just tryin to defend their homeland from foreign attackers, or by sayin that americans are no better should go FUCK THEMSELVES ALSO. There is NO excuse for cutting of the head of a civilian. He wasnt even a soldier!! what threat was he fucking causing??? The executioners of this video should all be decapitated for what they did. Anyone trying to defend them, or change the subject by saying that americans are no better than they are should shut the fuck up and think.
and for all you self righteous motherfuckers saying things like “Notice how you wish the same on them and praise a war that they may be destroyed”, or saying other things like “Notice how you forget they are protesting and defending against a foreign invader”.
my message to you is to stop trying to defend these terrorist by pretending to be self righteous. Ofcourse people are going to say things like “Fuck all muslims”, or “lets nuke Iraq”. Let them say these things. its o.k., they are just releasing their anger. after watching this video iam sure everyone with half a brain would be angry. when we are angry, we say ignorant things. Let people say these things, if they are smart, then they dont actually mean them.
but dont try to use poeples angry responses to try to turn this whole thing around and start making excuses for these sick fuckin terrorist. my point is if someone says something stupid like “fuck all muslims, lets nuke’em”, ignore it. these people will say this out of anger in response to having witnessed this video. just cause people post ignorant comments due to having witnessed a video that will piss anybody off doesnt give u the right to try to excuse these terrorist by turning this whole thing around. if u do try to turn the whole thing around and say that these poor terrorist were just defending their homeland then you are pretty fuckin ignorant yourself.
WOW, now i for one believe that every single person in this world has a right to live. That no man has the right to take another’s life. i am pagan but a qoute from jesus ” the one with out sin cast the first stone” So who are they to judge or anyone and kill in the name of a FUCKING NAME
Allah, jehovah, jesus, god, hezues Who the fuck really cares what you call it. You have your beliefs and you can raise your family with those beliefs, but who are you to go into another persons home or country and tell them what they are to believe. A scared simplton that realizes religion can be another tool to gain power from those too scared to be killed or are dumb enough to believe that gods words will come down to a buncjh of sick, hypocritcal bastards trying to seek power.
Hmm charles manson people? He used drugs to evolve peoples mind and make them do what he wanted, religion is also a drug. Not being able to balance your personality with your faith is an issue and if you want to kill your self for it, well then by all means go ahead, but ireally hope you fucks can read your own quatran , as well as the bible, and really read what was written and the lessons that are trying to be conveyed.
what i am trying to say is that i for one believe we all worship the same power, we just relate to it differently like we live and understand life differently. I may see the color red, and we both are raised that that color is red, but what you are actually seeing from your eye i might percieve as green. SO although we are taught to call it red, we are not really seeing the same thing. Do you understand that? Same thing with god.
But seeing the horrors i have seen around the world, thanks to the internet, i am glad to live in this society. We allow and in courage freedom of religion and thought. the ability to try and succeed in this world. Others become obsessed with darkness and never bring themselves to another level of understanding they even kill,
But i have never seen the level of blatant disregard for the value of a human life. And for some reason when i watch that movie i do not feel bad for the problems that were happening, nor do i feel any hatred toward my country men for the pain and sufffering. it is wrong and i will have to deal with that feeling, but for now i do not care and will give a blind eye to the war
Caroline, no matter what you say about religion, how can you firmly say that religions are false? Even though you haven’t stated that exactly, that’s the way you’re taking it.
Relgion might be myth, and Atheism might be wrong.
You cannot prove one or the other.
So don’t tell me that my God is not the one true God. Because in all actuality, you have no proof either.
Argue that my love.
homosexuality?
is wrong.
it’s not natural, and it’s taboo in my eyes.
divorce?
is wrong.
but if you were stupid enough to jump into something without being true, then that’s your problem.
abortion?
murder. period.
and how dare you tell me it throws shame on me and my family.
who are you to judge me?
shame on you for passing judgment when you yourself are just as twisted as any other.
you are no better than me. i am no better than anyone.
we are all people.
period.
erm… well… pascal does say that mathmatically, in a betting sense (and i am a betting gal) tis better to bet that there is something there, rather than to bet against it. There is no sense in taking a line that is against a god in general.
i spose what i am really arguing against is this idea that is prevalent in all religions, that ‘my god is better than your god… ner ner nerrr ner ner nerrrr’. Which is exactly what you were stating above, in a rather annoyingly passive manner.
i feel no god – no presence, no big influence in my life. i dont need it. but i would also fight (maybe not to the death) for you to practice your own religion, with no interference. i also fight for my right to sit at my computer and piss myself at the idiocy of what you say – that my friend is freedom of speech.
so… homosexuality eh. how do you feel about the religious nutters in america that picket the funerals of gay armed forces? how would you feel if your brother told you he was gay?
how about the ethical quandry of the religious nutters (again, Christian) that murder abortionists?? abortion after rape?
and if it is not too personal a question, what contraceptive method do you use?
to dave:
please please PLEASE do not vote in the BNP, just so you can fuck off to new zealand (who also have a very racist government). the leader of the BNP is a convicted racist – convicted because he went on record as stating that the holocaust is a jewish invention, and that there were literally ‘hundreds’ of the jewish community killed, not 6 million as is the reality.
i am glad to see the back of you. particularly as you seem to see nothing wrong in ‘buying crack’. So off you pop, and take your little racist children with you. leave the ‘ragheads’ to this fine country, that has provided you with a home, and an income – with five children, ou would need to be bringing in about 175,000 a year. people that vote BNP do not earn that much I’m afraid, and I would rather my hard won tax money goes to people who need our help – like genuine asylum seekers, than to people who cant keep their dick out of whatever unfortunate woman allows you to have a go.
such a shame as well, as your comment started out soooo well. good riddance. xx
i dare to tell you that your behaviour brings shame on your family, because you are involving the life of an eight year old boy.
objectively, what you and your family have done to that child is disgusting. and you genuinely should be ashamed of yourselves.
If i am in no position to judge you (and believe me I am) then who the fuck are you to judge all the above people… the list goes on:
-muslims
-atheists
-women that regulate their own fecundity through abortion
-the gay community
-me… for disagreeing with you
-the community of another country, who rejoice in exactly the same way as your country did at the end of WW1 and WW2.
dont be so fucking hypocritical, and have a think about your behaviour. and please… PLEASE. get that 8 year old boy some proff help, before he turns into… oh god… YOU.
Caroline, Maybe i am a racist, i dont really know, if i am its people like you who havent seen the bad side of these people that walk around with your head in the sand, and for your info, my woman who had my five kids is a good woamn, a volunteer to two charities on being oxfam. She was mugged by two illegal so,alians in 2004 , spent two weeks in hosptital, attempted rape by an Iraqi who she was helping in a shelter, sorry caroline, spmething needs to be done, and for your info my company turns over 1.4 million and makes about 330k gross profit. thus enables my wife to not have to earn and do charity work,I fend for myself and family, me and my wife differ in certain views, but we both agree the uk is on a downward slide. I lost my grandad on both sides in ww2 and my father was badly wounded in the 1982 falkland conflict, these people defended this country to be ruined by fools like yourself, so, no caroline, you fuck off, your not worthy of being here.
And just for good measure, you are clearly a non person, an non achiever with a pathetic life that means you can only be disrespectful to others whilst loving the common enemy, I may vote BNP, im not a nazi at all though, despise them in fact, just grasping at any last ditch attempt to take the uk back to how it was some decades ago.
PS im in favour of abortion, oh how i wish your mother had had one.
xx take care
Caroline, sorry to go on, your taxes dont go to my woman and kids, as i said i pay my way and that is rather insulting, also i never said i agree with crack, thats bollocks and did i say my kids were racist? again slandering my kids, what sort of person are you? just some sort of hyped up key board warrior who has little experience the real world? looks that way, do us all a favour go and preach in iraq or somewhere, mind you they also slay the missionaries don’t they? and just to get finally slated by the rest of the people on here, there is no god, i would love to believe, but there isnt, all the faiths have used this to keep down the masses and profit, of course i cant prove it, but i think theres no evidence of a god anywhere, read darwin, read the science and evolution books, i do believe there is a devil though, although the name is Caroline, not satan. xx only joking, bet you’re nice in real life.
Caroline,
You my friend, are the one insulting me.
Idiocy?
And the people protesting, are wrong. Their views are just as twisted as anyone else’s.
If my brother came to me and said he was gay?
I’d still love him. I never said I hated “fags”, now did I?
I am 20 years old, and obviously more in touch with reality than you my friend.
I have yet to insult you, but keep insulting me, I find it quite amusing. It shows your weakness in your views.
dear dave…
well i am very flattered… what a lovely long, and ‘thought through’ statement. bit impulsive are we?
“Maybe i am a racist, i dont really know”
I do, you are.
“two weeks in hosptital, attempted rape by an Iraqi who she was helping in a shelter, sorry caroline, spmething needs to be done, ”
fr that i am very sorry, no woman should have to deal with that at all, neither the violent, aggravated assault, nor the attempted rape, it is disgusting. I do think something needs to be done – can we not forget that it was a matter of years ago that a woman could not refuse her own husband, and that just than 6% of rapes are sucessfully prosecuted in the UK, God knows how few are reported. And every modern, educated woman knows that sexual violence is in its own peculiar category, being as though as the indications of physical harm fade, the pyschological effects are just starting.
The action that needs to be taken in a stronger position for women in the law, backed up by an international project to equalise the laws protecting women across the world – where the law goes, communities generally follow. The assimilation of cultures needs open, honest communcation, and a willingness on each side to come together trust each other cultures. No spineless accusations and hatred spewing from every word.
there are, unfortunately communities that do not see crimes against women as being of paramount importance. That is not the case here in Britain, and I do hope those individuals were prosecuted.
The problem I have with you is the intimation that those crimes happened because the person was iraqi, or ‘illegal alians” [sic]. I also really take offence at men calling their life partners, who have bore them five children (and restricted their working activites to ‘cahrideee’ work) ‘woman’. bit cave man like? no?
“but we both agree the uk is on a downward slide.”
off you pop then.
“these people defended this country to be ruined by fools like yourself,”
What they actually did was kill, maim and torture, as all people do in war. we are lucky we are not somewhere that is being invaded, or attacked, because we would all find ourselves behaving like that.
You seem to have great difficulty in expressing yourself clearly – the spelling mistakes, the anger, the obvious misogyny, all lead me to wonder whether these men and their psychological scars have affected your upbringing? maybe a little less anger, and a little more common sense is in order. People have talked like that forever, each generation feels that they next are buggering it up a little more each day. chill out, and take that extended holiday you need so much!
“caroline, you fuck off, your not worthy of being here.”
OOooo… does that mean I can come with you? we could discover new lands together. come on, i know you like me… “xx take care” **blush**
“And just for good measure, you are clearly a non person, an non achiever with a pathetic life that means you can only be disrespectful to others whilst loving the common enemy,”
ive just finished my LLM (wish me luck for my final results!) and (i think) im on to a medical law LLB, poss on euthanasia from a perspective of creating a law regulating it effectively in the UK.. sigh.. so exciting! Ive spent my whole adult life working full time, and dropped to part time reluctantly while studying for my degree – is that all right with you? have i gone up in your estimation? the career path people take, is that important to you?
Im not too sure who the common enemy is – people who dont like the BNP? foreigners? umm… asian people? muslims? communists! the french? i get the impression you wouldnt be out of place on the corner of a london street, sandwich board on, screaming about the end of the world?
“I may vote BNP, im not a nazi at all though, despise them in fact, just grasping at any last ditch attempt to take the uk back to how it was some decades ago.”
Whether you are, or whether you aint a nazi is of no concern to me. the fact is the BNP are. they are linked definitively to groups both in the UK and abroad that ARE nazis, not just supporters.
even the candidates are openly racist. One wrote on his facebook ” “W**s go home,” adding, “They are nice people, ‘oh yeah,’ but can they not be nice people in the f***ing Congo or… bongo land or whatever?” he then went onto clearly state – “i dont think thats racist” its almost as good as a punch and jody show… “well boys and girls, dooo yoouu think iiiiim a racist???” “YES!!”
so the important fact here is, if you are not racist, then why vote into power people whoa re racist, not just in my estimation, but also in the eyes of the law? remember these people that would be a questionable candidate to work with vunerable children and adults? much like peadophiles??? these people are representing you, on the world stage. the BNP are a source of national shame. can we all remember that the BNP was created as the militant arm of the then reforming national front, and later produced the militant ‘Combat 18′ as a company of glorified bouncers.
its almost as if… you… have no idea? it irks me to say it, but there is a sneaking suspicion that people who vote for the BNP shouldnt be allowed a vote. contraversial, and completely counter productive to allll my ideals, but jeez – you are not only voting stupidly, you are actually leaving us to deal with the shite that you cause. sigh.
“PS im in favour of abortion, oh how i wish your mother had had one.”
lovely stuff. and yet, ‘what kind of a person’ am i state that your children are racist. laughable.
i too, by ythe way, am totally for abortion. =) so finally, something we agree on! whislt we are talking about terminations – perhaps you could ask your ‘woman’ to ask Oxfam what they have to say about producing children and the wreck of a planet we have. the kindest thing to do would be to not produce so many – so dont tell her she should have an abortion (that would be rude!) but do both have a think about what releasing 5 growing little consumers on the earth.
“looks that way, do us all a favour go and preach in iraq or somewhere, mind you they also slay the missionaries don’t they? ”
Iraq is a dangerous place. 23 people killed last week, in one attack. why attack? because they are invaded. still. at least they werent attacking british troops. why send our children and families there to fight?
on the other hand, we in england are not at war, and we apparently kill big issue sellers and children – or is that just taking a certain set of facts, and they making vast assumptions based on race?
“read darwin, read the science and evolution books,”
which ones? do tell (and dont google it you cretin!)
I have a lovely cope of origin of species. A valuable one, actually the last edition (i think it was five, but i could tell you without unpacking it) that darwin himself edited. and it has the lovely feature of the tiny, neat script of an academic in the margins of every page. so not only do I have the text, but also a proff interpretation of it. it really is a good read. I think what you are talking about in your writings is actually more eugenic based, rather than true darwinianism. Perhaps, as we are swapping reading lists, you would attempt some dostoyevsky for me – crime and punishment to start. might teach you empathy? ooo and malthus – particularly in reference to popping out any more little fist waving lunatics (disclaimer – only if they follow in their fathers footsteps…)
“i do believe there is a devil though, although the name is Caroline, not satan. xx only joking, bet you’re nice in real life.”
to believe in satan would be to believe in god? no? i must state quite clearly, i am not religious =) i take what i can from the religious texts, usually – be nice to people. =)
and one of them kisses again dave… **blush**. has your wife gone of sex? or are you having a mid life crisis???
xcx
I loled at this shit. His scream was funny as hell. Thanks for the laugh bestgore. <3
Squealed like a pig.
candycoatedwhatever…
im glad i made you laugh. its a shame you dont have the ability to decide what in life is to be laughed at, what is to be cried at, and when it is appropriate to allow and eight year old to talk of murdering people, and not be remonstrated for it. (never… is the correct answer)
would you by any remote chance, feel so strongly that this is the correct way to behave and pass on your full name, address to the authorities? perhaps you might listen to them when they tell you that an 8 year old is damaged when they talk of murder? tis like something from the 18th century.
get some help, get some education. and please, im actually begging you to get some help for that child.
YO “ANON”, you think this video was funny??? would you still be laughing at this video if it was you who was in it??? any 1 who thinks this video is SO FUNNY, you should try going to Iraq and visiting these terrorist and ask them to decapitate you. Now that would be funny. i would laugh my ass off all day. “ANON”, if this was you in the video, you wouldn’t be laughing now would you?? you would be too busy choking on your own blood to laugh.
Any one who thinks this kind of stuff is funny should volunteer themselves to be decapitated. that way, others can get a laugh too.
LOL YOU MAD CAUSE HE GOT HEAD CHOPPED OFF? I CAN SELL YOU A HEAD IF YOU WANT BRO.
I can’t fucking believe how far idiots will go for an imaginary creature that doesn’t exist. I would love to cut each and everyone of their balls off and make them eat it.
can you sell me your head?? cause i would pay plenty for it
KILL ALL MUSLIMS
destroy islam
they are fucking animals, they come to our country and use OUR laws to protect themselves and OUR freedom of speech to DENIGRATE OUR CULTURE, OUR RELIGION, OUR VERY LIVES.
KILL THEM ALL AND PROBLEM SOLVED.
GOD I WANT THEM DEAD SO BAD !!!
dead dead dead dead dead dead
NUKE MECCA
AWWW I just so many of the comments up there by so many fucking TWATS.
OF COURSE REGULAR MUSLIMS APPROVE OF THIS SHIT.
IF THIS WAS HAPPENING IN AMERICA, RIGHT IN THE STREETS, YOU DON’T THINK AMERICANS WOULD DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT STOP???
WHY DON’T THEY MAKE IT STOP?
IT’S THEIR COUNTRY, THEIR PEOPLE, THEY HAVE THE POWER TO DO SO,
BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO,IT’S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. THE WHOLE “IT’S JUST A FRINGE MINORITY” IS JUST SO MUCH A STRAW MAN ARGUMENT THAT GOES UP THE MINUTE THE PROOF IS HELD BEFORE IT.
THIS HAPPENS DAILY IN MID-EAST COUNTRIES, ACID THROWN ON WOMENS FACES IF THEY GO TO SCHOOL, AN 11 YR OLD GIRL RAPED BY HER UNCLE AND THEN ACID POURED ON HER BODY FOR WEARING LIPSTICK – SO HE SHOWED HER HOW WHORES GOT TREATED, RIGHT?
EVEN A 10% PIECE OF MUSLIM POPULATION IS ALMOST 200,000,000 (MILLION) PEOPLE YOU IDIOTS. THIS IS NOT RELIGION, ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION, IT IS A METHOD FOR OPPRESSION AND A TOOL OF DEATH.
DO AS I SAY OR YOU DIE
OF COURSE, WOMEN ARE STILL RAPED EVERY DAY THEN ACCUSED OF ADULTERY AND SHOT OR STONED… THESE MEN ARE FILTHY PIGS, ANIMALS NOT DESERVING OF HUMAN DIGNITY OR MERCY. KILL THEM ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol atheist fag, you idiots always try and make everything seem as if religion is the problem. This beheading had nothing to do with religion. They want their women released from prison camps. Get the fuck out unless you know what youre talking about.
Islam is a religion you idiot, and not all islamics are extremists. Some are just normal people who worship their god. Their are 2 different groups of Islam though. Sunni and Shiite. As I said before, if you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, shut the fuck up.
For all you people out there who think this video is funny, or for those of you who defend these terrorist by saying that they were just protecting their country from foreign invaders, and for those of you who pretend to be self righteous by saying that Americans have tortured people before also and use that excuse to turn this whole thing around, stop for a moment and use your fucking brains and think.
This man that was executed was not a soldier…. He was not a threat to these people… All he was, was an American engineer. That was his crime, being an American. He did not invade Iraq to take over their country, or to murder their people, or rape their women. So for those of you who say that these terrorist were just protecting their country from a foreign invader, do everyone a favor and put down the crack pipe. They killed him for being an American, simple as that. They weren’t doing it to protect their country, thats bullshit. They did it because they wanted to get revenge on Americans for imprisoning their women. Which is not excusable. Their women are in prison for a reason, not because they are innocent. If they were innocent, they wouldn’t be in prison. This man however, was innocent.
For those of you people who say that Americans have done some really bad things too, i know that. Americans have done a lot of bad shit also, starting with Bush. But this video isn’t about an American soldier decapitating an Iraqi citizen. If it was, then you have all the right to talk shit about Americans. But since it isn’t, then don’t try to change the subject by saying that Americans have done some really bad shit too, because by saying that the only thing you are doing is turning this whole thing around and making up an excuse for these sick fucks.
All you people that think this video was funny, you all have a sick twisted fucked up mind. This video is VERY FAR from funny. Would you sick fucks still think this video was funny if the person being decapitated was your dad, your mom, or yourself??? I bet you wouldn’t think it was funny anymore now would you?? For those of you who laughed when you saw this video, the only thing i wish is for you to go through the same process that this man went through. You would find it very difficult to laugh when you’re choking on your own blood, or when blood rushes out your neck like a fountain. If you thought the video was funny, try going through what this man went through. After you’ve experience what this man went through by going through this process yourself, experience will teach you that this is far from funny. Maybe thats the best way for you sick twisted fucks to learn, by going through this process yourself.
This shit fills my American heart with a burning rage. I hope we kill every one of those hadje allah praising scum bag suicide bombing tic tac dicked fucks.
pissedoff…
no one laughs at this video, everyone cringes, and spends time thinking about that mans life, and the life of his family. those who write that they do are erely trying to upset idiots such as yourself, and to get a rise out of them. so think on, ignore cunts like anon, and start to cover the real issues, do not just provide a diatribe of your own personal conflicts – they really dont matter.
“This man that was executed was not a soldier…. He was not a threat to these people… All he was, was an American engineer”……”He did not invade Iraq to take over their country, or to murder their people, or rape their women. So for those of you who say that these terrorist were just protecting their country from a foreign invader, do everyone a favor and put down the crack pipe.”
ohhhhh… sorry… my crack pipe is discarded, and YET i still can not see how he was not a foreign invader? he was foreign… and not merely foreign, but AMERICAN, the people that were INVADING at the time. He was sent there to make a mint, on the basis that the country needed to be rebuilt. AND WHY? becuase the AMERICANS smashed it up. he had an army escort, and was dressing in the same manner as is companions. There are conflicting reprots as to whether he was armed.Ii am not for one minute condoning this behaviour, but even you must see the reasons behind this type of behaviour – if not i would suggest that you have an enormous lack of empathy, to the point of mental illness.
“they wanted to get revenge on Americans for imprisoning their women. Which is not excusable.”
the only women that was imprisoned was one member of the cabinet, officially. they were acting because so many Iraqi young men had been interned on a very flimsy basis. each week the americans release a few of these people from the humiliating and inhumane conditions that some have been subjected to since the start of the iraqi war. I ask you again – what would you do? incidentally, there have been very very few prosecutions against these people – mainly because THEY WERE INNOCENTLY HELD.
and more to the point, wouldnt you call the entire iraq war revenge? for 9/11?? even though a) Iraq had nothing to do with it, and b) the Iraq war was enacted for bush to gain credence with his father, and c) the only practical reasons for war was oil and contracts to ‘rehabiliate’ iraq??
“Would you sick fucks still think this video was funny if the person being decapitated was your dad, your mom, or yourself???”
what if your dad, your mother, your siblings, friends, teachers, lovers, children were all indiscriminately bombed, shot, and made homeless by the invading forces? as is STILL happening in iraq, as IS STILL happening in afghanistan, and will STILL be happening in all those placed and more when you and I personally drop off this mortal coil? this is war my sweet. you either accept it and revel in the bloodshed, or work personally towards to abolition of warring states.
“For those of you people who say that Americans have done some really bad things too, i know that. Americans have done a lot of bad shit also, starting with Bush. ”
STARTING WITH BUSH??? get back to school.
“But this video isn’t about an American soldier decapitating an Iraqi citizen. If it was, then you have all the right to talk shit about Americans.”
quite. now what would be interesting is pictures and videos of the atrocious abused inflicted on CIVILIANS by our armed forces. just last week, in a court case regarding those abuses in the UK, an army chief admitted that he had thrown not one, but two laptops into the sea, because he felt the photographs were of a sensitive nature. Those photos were evidence of the torture and killing of over 20 men in the early stages of the iraq war- civilians no less.
in this america that you love so bloody much, obama has now reneged on his promise to open up the abuses at G’tmo, expose the photos and the memos, to protect the people that made those decisions when in power. ALL THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED FOR WAR CRIMES. – obama himself acknowledged that the these practices were tunring people against america, so why will his government not listen to the man in charge? I hear a hell of a lot about america being a super power, and in charge of the world – SHOW ME. behave properly.
There is no god get over it. We should invade these countries and set up work camps to put these inferior cowards into. Fuck your “god”. This man was innocent and now he’s dead thanks to religious radicals. I would love to stomp each one of these fucker’s heads in personally. Setting up work camps and torture camps would be a good way to kill off these insignificant rodents that serve no purpose in this world.
Caroline,
you will eat your words when things boil down in this world. i’m sure of it.
and i didn’t say i laughed either. =] you were the one that attacked my comment, and you continue to attack everyone else’s comments because you think you’re so right. oh how wrong you really are…
maybe you should get outside and play.
and more importantly get a life. obviously you haven’t lived enough to have enough experience.
your last comment directed to me, now THAT made me laugh.
and my little brother is no longer a child, and he’s more in touch with reality than you could ever be. brainwashed you are caroline, spoon-fed whatever hypocrisies you have listened to, and willingly taken by you.
i know my history, i know my facts. the only thing you can continue to attack me with is the fact that my little brother was scared to death and made that statement.
you are one of the people that are scattered everywhere on this earth that let these problems continue. life isn’t lollipops and butterflies my friend.
Woe be the man born unto this world, and joy be to whom that leaves it, to be without pain and suffering.
you shall learn. and you’ll think of me.
OOOOOOOOooooooooooooooh
and how dare you tell that man that you think someone that would vote a certain way shouldn’t have the right to vote.
what kind of person are you. now THAT offended me.
i think you should go to the middle east with your prissy little attitude.
let’s see how long you live.
and one more thing:
“nd YET i still can not see how he was not a foreign invader? he was foreign… and not merely foreign, but AMERICAN, the people that were INVADING at the time. He was sent there to make a mint, on the basis that the country needed to be rebuilt. AND WHY? becuase the AMERICANS smashed it up. he had an army escort, and was dressing in the same manner as is companions. There are conflicting reprots as to whether he was armed.Ii am not for one minute condoning this behaviour, but even you must see the reasons behind this type of behaviour – if not i would suggest that you have an enormous lack of empathy, to the point of mental illness.”
so, are you telling me that we had a right and a reason to capture anyone involved with september 11th and cut their heads off? are you telling me that it’s okay now?
at least we’re trying to help after we fuck shit up.
wow caroline, i think YOU are the one that needs the medication.
or a revolver.
you pick.
dear ‘candycoatedcyanide’ (actually starting to love that name – how fucking psychotic?)
“and my little brother is no longer a child, and he’s more in touch with reality than you could ever be. brainwashed you are caroline, spoon-fed whatever hypocrisies [SIC] you have listened to, and willingly taken by you.”
i listen to everything, and take nothing for granted. Every statement I make is researched, and full of information. If you want to merely sit and crow about your brother and how wonderful it is that your family sat around and felt proud that he was uttering murderous thoughts, then thats fine. im fairly sure you are very normal within America.
The reason I keep returning to your brother is that whole scenario is indicative of what is wrong in this world – young kids, being radicalised by their familial influence. It is disgusting – and i have thought a lot about it since you posted it. it makes me ashamed that you represent the west.
“you are one of the people that are scattered everywhere on this earth that let these problems continue. life isn’t lollipops and butterflies my friend.”
sorry… when did i say it was all ‘lollipops and butterflies’? i dont recall? as far as Im concerned each and every time i have posted I have discussed visceral, real issues that need confronting. and one of what people? peopel that dislike war? and remind bloodthirsty inbreds such as yourself that you cannot condone one set of murder and condemn another? there should be more people like me.
“OOOOOOOOooooooooooooooh
and how dare you tell that man that you think someone that would vote a certain way shouldn’t have the right to vote.
what kind of person are you. now THAT offended me.”
in case you havent quite grasped what i was trying to say, it makes me uncomfortable as well – totally against my belief structure that certian groups of people should not vote. HOWEVER. what you do not seem to understand is that the BNP are very dangerous – they are banned from public appearances on tv in the UK because they are actually NAZIS. it would be like the KKK rising to the upper house in the USA. The ideal would be that everyone in Britain would have enough knowledge about the party not to vote for them, however as political circumstances are, many people may be tempted to vote with them in protest at the three main parties, and the ‘first past the post’ voting system. The major point here is – make people understand exactly what they are about, and suggest that they do not vote, if they can only vote for the BNP.
-the real reason that ‘Dave’ upset me so much was his statement that he would vote for the BNP and then fuck off. I dont think that people who are leaving the country within the next electoral period should be able to vote – That isnt curbing peoples democratic right, its practical. let him go to queensland, or where ever – there are far right parties actually IN POWER in that particular part of the world.
“i think you should go to the middle east with your prissy little attitude.
let’s see how long you live.”
i have no intention to go to that part of the world – and accordingly, I think it is disgusting that your government and mine send our peers there, to kill and be killed. simple.
“so, are you telling me that we had a right and a reason to capture anyone involved with september 11th and cut their heads off? are you telling me that it’s okay now?”
genuinely – take some time to read statements before replying. not only is it uncomfortable to have to read and reply to three posts, but you do not understand the basic facts that give rise to the situation.
Of course 9/11 should create ramifications. tis jsut a real shame that iraq had bugger all to do with it. You have a man in G’tmo that has admitted to planning the attacks, and still you dont try him in a court of law – you talk of human rights, and the fact you are disgusted that i could suggest that someone who votes for a reincarnated Hitler shouldnt be allowed – and yet your country refuses to allow their captives a trial? srely that is against whatever petty human rights treaty you signed up to (is it the treaty of civil rights?) and usrely you can see just how wrong and unjust that is.
ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT THIS IS HELPING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE MUSLIM POPULATION AS A WHOLE?
i dislike capital punishment – however i would understand somewhat if it was used in this way. you have the man, you have the proof (gained by torture). so no – you cannot ‘cut someones head off’ unless they have committed a crime and been through a fair trial.
” at least we’re trying to help after we fuck shit up.”
THATS ALL RIGHT THEN. or maybe not – i could accept that if your country held its hands up, fucked off, and helped sort out the carnage -
but actually… you are still STILL doing this. AFGHANISTAN… PAKISTAN… and you refuse to help in places that actually need US army intervention? ZIMBABWE, SRI LANKA?
genuinely, if you ‘know your facts’ then i must be a fucking genius – you dont seem to have the capability of discussing anything of substance, only to throw insults, and then sit back and congratulate yourself on how clever you are – while suggesting that i commit suicide?
and then you tell me to grow up – sigh. can you begin to see why Im so frustrated with cunts like you?
Beware, We are coming to rule the world.
You will not escape in the name of “Allah”
The enemies of “Allah” will never accept dignity and pride of Islam and Islamic values and therefore all officials as well as presidential candidates should exercise vigilance not to please the enemies through improper remarks. For though will not speak.
The martyrs have brought dignity, pride and development to the Islamic nations.
This is a victory due to Islamic resistance and faith.
All Islamic nations as well as officials should be proud of Islam and Islamic values as the resistance and strength of the our nation are indebted to Islam.
You should seek the God’s consent which is manifested in Islamic teachings.
The country’s glory, dignity, security, development, significant scientific breakthrough and technological know-how as well as increase in the number of scientists and researchers are all indebted to the blood of our martyrs.
Martyr’s blood brought the country public awareness.
I advised people from various walks of life to mark memories of martyrs and never ignore such a blessing.
In the great name of the great one, “Allah”
mohammed ahmi aslama bahad
TO CAROLINE: i never thought that a human being could be as stupid, and as fucking ignorant as you Caroline. Why do you defend these fucks???? WHY???? do you have nothing better than argue with, and contradict other peoples comments for your sick pleasure??? do you masturbate at the thought of always wanting to be right??? GET A FUCKING LIFE BITCH!!!
The reason why i am going down so hard on these terrorist is common sense, because they are terrorist!!! If this was a video of Americans doing this, then i will go down hard on Americans. If you knew how to read good, then maybe you would have noticed that i said this on one of my comments you ignorant fuck. I DID mention that Bush is a peace of shit because he started this fucked up war that i was against because of these exact reasons that we see on this video. So tell me again how i am i defending America??? just in case you still haven’t figured it out, you know, considering how slow and fucking ignorant you are, i am defending the man in the video. NOT AMERICA.
Yes, i understand that Iraqis have lost tons of people due to the bombings. But i NEVER said i was okay with it now did I??? once again, if you knew how to read then maybe you could have figured out that the purpose i was trying to make was that these sick fucks in the video deserve to die for doing this. Thats it. thats the point i am trying to make you dumb ass cunt.
I am against the war, i am against bush, i am against these sick fucking terrorist, and mostly i am against you Caroline. If you are feeling too lonely, tell your husband to fuck you a bit more often, but don’t try starting shit with me and try to contradict what i said when i haven’t said anything stupid unlike you.
Once again, get a fucking life caroline. if you are having problems at home, or whatever your case might be for always trying to contradict people, then get a fucking life!!! or better yet, get the fuck of this site, no one here likes you anyways, so fuck off!! if your life is so fucked up that you decide to come to this site everyday to start arguments with people, then get a .50 caliber pistol and blow your fucking head off. you would be doing everyone a favor caroline, think about it. For once in your sick fucked up life, think about someone else besides you.
When is said “Would you sick fucks still think this video was funny if the person being decapitated was your dad, your mom, or yourself???” the point i was trying to make was that this video is not funny. i was not trying to say that the Iraqis haven’t lost any one during this war, cause i know that the Iraqis have lost plenty of people. The point i was trying to make was that this video is not funny, i used the example of decapitation so ANON could see how it would feel to have his relatives head cut off. I was NEVER trying to say that Iraqis haven’t suffered losses. Once again CAROLINE, if you knew how to read and interpret, then maybe you would have a bit of a clue as of what i was trying to say.
As for this whole war in Iraq, just so i make myself clear, i am against it. I am against it because tons of Americans, Iraqis, Hispanics, etc have died for a war that was only provoked by no one but Bush himself. Bush made up the excuse of nuclear weapons to go to war with them.
So stop saying that i am making up excuses for Americans, and that i don’t see how Iraqis are also suffering losses. I know that Iraqis have suffered plenty. But since this video is about Eugene getting his head cut off, then i am going down hard on these terrorist. When i see a video of Americans doing something wrong, i’ll go down on them too.
With that being said, stop trying to start arguments with people over bullshit caroline. If you have half a brain, which at this point i am not too sure you do, then you knew damn well what points i was trying to make since the beginning. You just felt like being a stuck up bitch ass cunt who loves to start arguments with people to get attention. Like i said before, do every one a favor, and get the fuck of this site. If we could take a vote, i bet 10 out of 10 people would vote your ass of this site.
Instead of agreeing with people who are right, all you do is contradict them and twist their words around to make them sound like a piece of shit. If you have nothing better to do, which i am pretty sure you don’t, then go to a whore house and whore yourself off to people, or better yet, go to Iraq and join these terrorist forces, that way maybe someone will drop a missile on your head. If you are too depressed as to get up from your couch and walk to whorehouse, or to the airport, then pay someone to buy you a gun so you could blow your fucking head off. Do something with your life. the best thing for you to do with it is just end it, cause you are nothing but a waste of flesh and blood. If you cant find anything useful to do with your life, like maybe help at a homeless shelter, or mow someones lawn, or clean up the streets (you know since your to ignorant to do anything else)then do yourself and everyone a favor and kill yourself. You would be a lot more useful that way.
my my my ‘pissed off’ – you certainly are upset!
“i never thought that a human being could be as stupid, and as fucking ignorant as you Caroline. Why do you defend these fucks???? WHY????”
im not defending… never was, never will. if you…”knew how to read and interpret, then maybe you would have a bit of a clue as of what i was trying to say.”
i condone nothing. i hate it all. i have repeatedly stated so. i am, however, able to be both against whats going on in this video, and the war crimes that are committed across the world, every day, by forces such as the UK and USA. WE re responsible for these forces and their actions, because WE PAY FOR THEM. I hate the fact that north korea can quite seriously fuck up whole countries – i dislike the fact that america and russia have always been able to do that. its all shite.
Fortunately – I am able to both comment upon one thing, like a video… but also, magically…factor other issues, such as world history, context and politics into my reaction. that is called forming a valid opinion. what you have done in the last two posts is throw your toys out of the pram, and throw a load of insults. with really bad spelling. and fairly bad grammar.
“So stop saying that i am making up excuses for Americans, and that i don’t see how Iraqis are also suffering losses. I know that Iraqis have suffered plenty. But since this video is about Eugene getting his head cut off, then i am going down hard on these terrorist. When i see a video of Americans doing something wrong, i’ll go down on them too.” REALLY? YOULL GO DOWN ON ALL AMERICANS. WOW. BRAVE. and stupid considering the STD rate…
“If you knew how to read good, then maybe you would have noticed that i said this on one of my comments you ignorant fuck.”
=) brilliant stuff.
“if you knew how to read then maybe you could have figured out that the purpose i was trying to make was that these sick fucks in the video deserve to die for doing this. Thats it. thats the point i am trying to make you dumb ass cunt.”
oh yeah? i thought you were anti-islam actually…
“i heard that the Muslim bible says that a man who steals should have their hands cut off??!! the funny thing is that it actually DOES happen in these retarded ass countries. these people are fuckin savages!!”
or how about…
“FUCK ALLAH, AND FUCK ALL THE DUMBASSES WHO THINK IT’S RIGHT TO DO THESE CRAZY ASS THINGS!!!”
“i hate these arab motherfuckers!!!! I dont know y there was such a big deal when american soldiers were torturing Iraqi terrorist at that prison in Iraq. After watching this, all terrorist captured by the U.S should be decapitated as well!!!!!!”
so really – i find it quite strange that in merely arguing against your racist shite, i have come under an attack. Above, you condone torture for ‘terrorists’. not only is this abhorrent, it is also useless… the men in abu grhaib for instance were mostly innocent, no evidence of any crime whatsoever. they were locked up because it was dangerous to allow them to roam the streets when OUR TROOPS invaded.
and you would admit to anything under torture. dont deny it. that is why it evidence gained by torture is not admissible in courts world wide – so why would anyone be tortured? for your sick pleasure? you seem to talk a lot of violence, death, torture. do you have some ind of problem?
“Instead of agreeing with people who are right, all you do is contradict them and twist their words around to make them sound like a piece of shit. ”
to be fair, you make yourself sound pretty ridiculous – ‘like a piece of shit’ as you yourself admit. and i agree with people that i think are right… i wouldnt disagree with someone who is right? surely?? and then…you descend into total 13 yea old stoner territory…”join these terrorist forces, that way maybe someone will drop a missile on your head.”
grow up. take the focus off yourself and answer me this – do you not think, in hindsight, that your comments were inflammatory, and racist. yes… or no…
To answer your question, no. I am not racist. It seems this is one of your favorite words since you’ve accused people of it before. When I said “fuck these Arabs” I meant the Arabs in the video, not all Arabs. Like I stated before, I am against terrorist, the war, bush, and you Caroline. And once again you twist up my words around. I think I have explained myself well enough for a normal human beign to understand the logical points I am trying to make, I am sorry that you are not a normal logical person. I will no longer try to explain myself because I have explained myself pretty clearly. Only ignorant fucks with no life and a lifetime desire to contradict people will try to pretend they don’t understand and twist my words around just to get some attention due to their fucked up lives. In case your brain is still trying to process and comprehend what I am trying to say, I am referring to you Caroline. There is no point in arguing with some fat fucking cunt who has nothing better to do than go against what every single person in here has to say. I have mentioned plenty of times how I am against the war and terrorism. Yet you continue to twist my words around. I cannot say that I feel sorry for you. Even though judging by the amount of long posts that you have, which clearly indicates you have no life, I STILL cannot feel sorry for you since you are rather irritating. The only thing I feel sorry for is that this man died, when it could have been you. The only thing I feel sorry for is that while I hear this mans screams you go on trying to justify these terrorist for their behavior not because you believe their behaviour was right, but because you try to get attention by contradicting others, even though you clearly know they are right. It really sucks that an innocent man has died yet a shit talking cunt remains alive making up excuses for these horrible acts. Because regardless how many times you say you are against his death, your words and contradicting ideas say otherwise. You claim his death was wrong, yet you mentioned that the reasons why these terrorist did this is understandable. Personally I cannot see how killing a man who has done nothing to you or your family deserves to die, but then again, my name is not Caroline. By trying to contradict me you have only contradicted yourself. I could go on arguing back and forth, but I have learned that it’s useless to argue with people who have no life whatsoever. And no matter what point you try to make, they will always twist your words around and contradict you because they dont reason and don’t know how to admit they are wrong. So Caroline, go on talking shit about others comments, this is clearly what you were born to do, it’s your purpose in life. Keep on wasting your life reading comments and finding a way to argue with people. Its more than clear that the reason you are here is to argue, not because you give a shit about this mans life, or the Iraqis, or anyone else. With that being said I hope you continue to waste your life posting ignorant shit online, that way others can get a laught at seeing you have no life. Hopefully your useless life will diminish soon. Whether it does or doesn’t, you could be sure I won’t waste a single more second of my life reading all the useless bullshit you have to post. Frankly a couple minutes of reading your bullshit comments is not worth it. The time I have wasted arguing with a nut like you is worth more than your life is worth. Goodbye Caroline. Continue wasting your useless life, that’s the one thing I will enjoy from all this.
pissedoff:
i love you.
=D
caroline:
Fortunately – I am able to both comment upon one thing, like a video… but also, magically…factor other issues, such as world history, context and politics into my reaction. that is called forming a valid opinion.
exactly. your opinion is just that. a fucking opinion.
now accept mine just as that.
and i really meant it when i said get yourself a revolver.
play roulette with a full chamber.
Beware. The Atheists outnumber you and are more scientifically advanced due to our knowledge of the non-existence of “allah”. Your people will be put in work camps and raped daily for your stupidity. We will do to you what you did to this man. Remember my little friend, what goes around comes around.
Fuck the guy, one of the sons of a bitches had an M-16!!
CAROLINE, WE DIFFER IN SOME VIEWS, AGREE IN OTHERS, YOU ARE AN INTERSTING AND INTELLIGENT WOMAN, OBVIOUSLY. I THINK I COULD LIKE YOU. XX ,
ANYWAY THE MAIN POINT IS : ANYONE WHO CUTS OFF SOMEONES HEAD , AND PUTS IN AN ONLINE VIDEO AND THINKS ITS CLEVER, COURAGEOUS AND WILL PLEASE THEIR GOD BELONGS IN THE 10TH CENTURY, SAVAGES , NO MATTER WHAT, WITHDRAW THE TROOPS, LET THESE COUNTRIES EVOLVE OR NOT, ON THEIR OWN!
ANYWAY, WE’LL NEED THE TROOPS FOR THE NEXT WAR IN KOREA, BECAUSE THIS BLOKES MISSILE CAN NOW REACH THE SEA!
YES, IM HAVING A MIDLIFE CRISIS AND I THINK 6HE WHOLE PLANET IS FUCKED, NOT JUST THE UK. MARS ANYONE?
hm….much worst stuff has happend.
this is nothing at all.
your poor poor wife dave.
i agree with you – we shouldnt be fighting.
the real point in regards to the BNP is that they are dangerous, hitler-ish typr of organisation, and it is terrible that you would vote for them and leave. seriously THINK ABOUT YOUR VOTE. it matters.
PISSED OFF…
“To answer your question, no. I am not racist.”
it wasnt a question, it was a statement. and a true one at that.
“And once again you twist up my words around.”
i dont twist your words, you create them yourself… you are an abominable racist, and it is plain for anyone with half a brain to see.
“I think I have explained myself well enough for a normal human beign to understand the logical points I am trying to make,”
i understand your point, i understand the logic. that doesnt make it right, it makes it a point to be discussed.
“In case your brain is still trying to process and comprehend what I am trying to say, I am referring to you Caroline.”
please dont misunderstand (or misunderestimate… *smile*) i understand what yu are saying, but it is wrong. there is a clear difference between people that are argumentative, and people that are always searching for the truth and the right. surely even you can see that?
“Even though judging by the amount of long posts that you have, which clearly indicates you have no life, I STILL cannot feel sorry for you since you are rather irritating.”
i espouse my views both in ‘real’ life and online. i just make damn sure that I fill my life with people that dont have the views you do, and so dont have this problem in mu general life. is that discrimination against racists?
“The only thing I feel sorry for is that this man died, when it could have been you.”
nah. not only are there few positions available for law students in the middle east, bar advocats san fronters… i would NEVER place money over family, and i would NEVER leave britain for a job that provides an over inflated pecuniary benefit, in leiu of a safe working position.
“Even though judging by the amount of long posts that you have, which clearly indicates you have no life,”
i type fast. so sue me. oh sorry… YOU DONT HAVE THE EDUCATION TO. unlucky. i do. =)
“So Caroline, go on talking shit about others comments, this is clearly what you were born to do, it’s your purpose in life”
that ability my friend, is why i volunteer with people who have no where else to go. people like asylum seekers, and those not covered by the legal aid system. always making the argument for individuals who have no one else to advocate for them. now that is a life worth living. no?
” It really sucks that an innocent man has died yet a shit talking cunt remains alive making up excuses for these horrible acts”
no excuses… just empathy. no excuses offered for our brother and sisters that are killed in iraq and afghanistan either… we should not be sending our children to death.
“Its more than clear that the reason you are here is to argue, not because you give a shit about this mans life, or the Iraqis, or anyone else.”
my point is that no one needs to die – everyones life has value. there is another way – to communicate, to discuss, not to fight and to kill. why is that so difficult for you to consider?
” With that being said I hope you continue to waste your life posting ignorant shit online, that way others can get a laught [sic] at seeing you have no life. ”
i dont think you have any idea about how effective i am in life. ask me. i dare you.
“Whether it does or doesn’t, you could be sure I won’t waste a single more second of my life reading all the useless bullshit you have to post.”
GOOD GOOD.
“Goodbye Caroline. Continue wasting your useless life, that’s the one thing I will enjoy from all this.”
good bye =) my useless life is useful to some people who actually need help. who have no one else to turn to. what do you do? genuinely? my guess would be call centreworker – maybe telesales??
dostoyevsky states that we only see in others what we see in ourselves… so what use is your life ‘pissed off’? or are you actually just an overwieght, useless, ill educated inbred, sat back on his arse shouting at others because he seems powerless?
well?
=)
wow this is not kool…
i have not read every comment on this video but I’m sure this has been said many times. These guys doing the murder are fucking cowards. Show your face you pussy, small dick having, non deoderant wearin, gas station owning, fucked up english speaking, worthless pieces of shit. If you are one of these fuckers and are reading this, come suck my ass.
This is so very, very sad. It is disgustingly sick to know that there are people out there that are capable of such acts. BUT, I want to point out this fact, these people doing this should be punished for this crime yes, but don’t forget the atrocities that have been done by other nations as well, such as the states. A good example would be when Bush thought that it would be OK to blast middle east areas with Uranium bombs. That is an atrocity that goes beyond a few “men”. Women, children and men for many many years to come will suffer horribly for Bush’s decisions. Same goes with Agent Orange in Vietnam and how about Hiroshima. Were any of the US leaders held accountable for the deaths of the many victims of these things? Nope, but they should be. Why does everyone always want the bad guys from other countries but think that our leaders (or neighboring leaders) are justified in what they do? Don’t get me wrong, I totally believe these Al Kida(sp?) scumbags should be brought down or to justice, but I don’t think they are the only scumbags out there.
“everyones life has value. there is another way – to communicate, to discuss, not to fight and to kill.”
lol. hahahahah!!! this dumbass brit makes me laugh my ass off!!! U should go to Iraq to talk and communicate with theses people Caroline. Maybe we will see u on the 6 O clock news. lol.
fuck communication, we need to kill Al Qaeda. who ever suggests communication should volunteer and go there themselves. dumbasses
you can talk shite all you like boys. understand – i wont go there to fight. because i am not an inbred, and i can do other things with my life.
why are we sending our people out there at all? havent we proven that white colonialism doesnt work?
Why is everybody so anal with Caroline. She’s the best commenter along with Breanna. Both my favorite girls get most shit thrown at them. WTF is wrong with you people?
Caroline is all talk and no walk. if you think that we should negotiate with terrorist then go there yourself.
“i wont go there to fight. because i am not an inbred” no one is asking u to fight. i said go N-E-G-O-T-I-A-T-E. there you go i spelled it out for ya. Live up to what you say. According to you talking is the only way to bring peace right?? so go talk to them. and i wish u the best of luck. lol
white colonialism doest work? am i detecting a little racism in these words? why do you say white? why not just say colonialism? whats the world coming to. no wonder we see things like people cutting of others heads of. fucking racists.
Fuck Allah and his hajji motherfuckers!!! fucking sand niggers. i hope they all die!!!!!!!!!!
i say ‘white’ because i am british, britain being the cradle of a very peculiar type of behaviour known as ‘white colonialism’.
i believe that british invasion was exactly the reason why american rose up 300 years ago? do you begin to see a parallel here?
point being – no wars.
“Caroline is all talk and no walk. if you think that we should negotiate with terrorist then go there yourself. ”
where would you like me to ‘walk’ to? i dont think we should negotiate with terrorists, i think we should stop terrorising communities. we are under a heavy duty to behave in a manner that is commensurate with the power that the west has – we need to use it properly. even you know that iraq was wrong? and that removing one dictator leaves a void that coalition forces cant (and now wont) fill?
and where does that leave you with afghanistan? korea?
if america stops shifting its weight, and starts to lead the way in the treatment of communities, rape, pillage, violence etc would begin to be replaced by democracy, rule of law, and a new GENUINE respect for life. thousands of people were killed in sri lanka? and for what? one group of men to assert itself over another? its disgusting. and its abhorrent that you would condone it in this way.
“i believe that british invasion was exactly the reason why american rose up 300 years ago? do you begin to see a parallel here?” whats wrong with the rise of America? you make it sound like its something bad. you seem to attack Americans a lot. are u some kind of fucking Nazi? It just had to be a brit
‘proud usa’… thats right. im a nazi. well done. you read one post, and you got it right away. ive just been hiding behind a pretense of left-wing sensibility.
read all the above. then come back to me. american foreign policy is the reason we are here, and as someone whos tax money goes towards whatever you are ‘proud’ of today, i have a reason to comment. americans are consistently the most inbred, racist, pathetci bunch of posters on this site.
You dont think we should negotiate with terrorist, really? Thats not what you said in one of your other post. If i remember correctly, you said “there is another way – to communicate, to discuss, not to fight and to kill.” Sounds like negotiation to me.
“where would you like me to ‘walk’ to?” To one of the terrorist training camps. ask the citizens living there. If you pay them, they should tell you where some terrorist live. If they dont, then just walk around the street everyday, sooner or later, you will meet someone involved in their organization.
“i think we should stop terrorising communities” Who do you mean by we?? What about terrorist like the ones seen in the video? Do we just LET them continue terrorizing their community and other communities as well?
If we take your approach, we would be dead in a matter of seconds. If we stop “terrorizing communities” as you like to say, then what do we do when we become under attack? do we fight back? NO, not according to you. If we dont fight back, guess what happens, people start taking over. People like the ones seen on this video.
Sorry, but the world is fucked up. it is what it is.
what a racist bitch! so Americans are inbred, racist, and pathetic bunch of posers. where the fuck are u from? fucking terrorist supporter. I am an American. My parents conceived me here. So that makes me a racist, and a poser? Maybe you should look in the mirror, try not to break it though.
By the way, learn how to spell.
“you said “there is another way – to communicate, to discuss, not to fight and to kill.” Sounds like negotiation to me.”
that to me is an alternative system. when we (american and UK) are a large military presence in an invaded country, they become a focus of hate. and for good reason – armies by nature are there to make communities feel threatened and under seige.
read this. see how you feel about the statements made UNDER OATH regarding rape and torture at abu ghraib.
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/05/431219.html
THAT is the reason that people rise up, much in the same way as you would if your country was being invaded. you proud nationalists cannot see the irony in what you preach.
““where would you like me to ‘walk’ to?” To one of the terrorist training camps. ask the citizens living there. If you pay them, they should tell you where some terrorist live. If they dont, then just walk around the street everyday, sooner or later, you will meet someone involved in their organization.”
and if you walk on the streets of america, sooner or later you will get shot/meet a prostitute/get robbed/come across a homeless person. same in britain – is that a reason to make assumptions? i stress the point IF IT WERE YOU AND YOUR COUNTRY… WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
““i think we should stop terrorising communities” Who do you mean by we?? What about terrorist like the ones seen in the video? Do we just LET them continue terrorizing their community and other communities as well? ”
WE are the UK and america – marching around the world, conquering as we go. rape, pillage, slaughter of innocents. and yet you STILL cannot see the reason these people are angry – the thought process behind the movement. the people above are psychopaths. much the same as some of the armed forces – and the people who kill, maim and torture daily on streets all over the world. so say…”Sorry, but the world is fucked up. it is what it is.” well actually – no. the world is what we make it, and if we all move towards change then it can only improve. pluralisation is key.
“If we take your approach, we would be dead in a matter of seconds.”
POOR EXCUSE FOR AGGRESSION. no evidence, no proof, no bloody logical basis. the same reason has been used to justify many a war – brutal and unnecessary.
By what you just posted i dont have to read your other post Caroline, you are a perfect example of what a racist is.
“what a racist bitch! so Americans are inbred, racist, and pathetic bunch of posers. where the fuck are u from? fucking terrorist supporter. I am an American. My parents conceived me here. So that makes me a racist, and a poser? Maybe you should look in the mirror, try not to break it though”
nasty – rude – arrogant… so essentially… everything but racist. and my lack of love for americans is not racism, its xenophobia. LEARN HOW TO COMMUNICATE.
“By what you just posted i dont have to read your other post Caroline, you are a perfect example of what a racist is.”
xenophobic… not racist… sigh. you should read them. you will learn something.
“and if you walk on the streets of america, sooner or later you will get shot/meet a prostitute/get robbed/come across a homeless person.”
lol. you are actually comparing America with a third world country. Try something for me will you. walk around Iraq, then walk around America, we will see in which one you will get killed, shot, or mugged faster.
“and yet you STILL cannot see the reason these people are angry” sounds like you are defending them. Maybe you should join them. You are a fucking terrorist just like them.
These “PEOPLE” as you call them are angry at the U.S. correct? so why do they strap up bombs and blow each other up? muslims, murdering other muslims. I cant believe how some people have no common sense whatsoever
No Caroline, you are NOT a xenophobic, you ARE a racist. dont try to deny, its more than obvious.
learn how to communicate? are you serious? learn how to spell first before you tell others to learn how to communicate.
Proud USA is right, you ARE a perfect example of a racist, yet you try to deny it and cover it up.
thats right. im a terrorist.
seriously. read above. im not going over and over the same thing just because you cant be arsed to use your eyes. educate yourself.
“These “PEOPLE” as you call them are angry at the U.S. correct? so why do they strap up bombs and blow each other up? ”
er… why do those teenage boys keep shooting up schools in america? why did a disturbed individual try to kill the royal family in the netherlands? why do british and american young men and women march headlong into battle, to their deaths?
your attitude is abysmal – muslims murdering other muslims? how about america and the UK murdering thousands of civilians? thousands. of children, brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, friends, lovers. and you expect these people not to react?
you invade their homes and you expect them not to act?
you rape their prisoners – women and CHILDREN? and you expect them not to react?
bull shit. you would do exactly the same if you were being invaded. I CONDONE NOTHING. but the facts are – the behaviour of people in war is abysmal. you cannot assuage your conscience regarding the violence and brutality of ‘coalition’ forces, and yet scream bloody murder about the beheading of one man.
you either – agree with both, or agree with non. I AGREE WITH NON OF THIS. that to me is so full of common sense that it doesnt need to be spelt out – i
obviously ‘misunderestimated’ you (!!)
maybe we have a different world view. shall i put it down to you being all american and that?
you claim not to be a racist? lol. now thats a laugh i havent had in a while. You are a racist, hyprocrite, and a stereotype.
And you yourself said “nasty – rude – arrogant”. seems like you have all the bad qualities. So if you say what you say you are, what gives you the right to call Americans inbreds, racists and pathetic posers. if you ask me, you are the racist inbred pathetic poser.
“No Caroline, you are NOT a xenophobic, you ARE a racist. dont try to deny, its more than obvious.
learn how to communicate? are you serious? learn how to spell first before you tell others to learn how to communicate.
Proud USA is right, you ARE a perfect example of a racist, yet you try to deny it and cover it up.”
i think you probably dont have the underlying knowledge to support your opinion? tis ok – we all have our faults.
racism is behaviour perceived to be discriminatory on the basis of RACE.
‘america’ is not a race of people. hence i cannot be racist towards america. i can, however be xenophobia.
however… let us first actually take a look at what i said… “americans are consistently the most inbred, racist, pathetic bunch of posters on this site.”
i know good americans. few, but i do know them. my point initially was – tat the most virulently racist, awful people that post on here are either; americans, or fascist britains. that is not an opinion, tis a fact.
i have said it before, i will say it again, im sure. READ ALL THE ABOVE.
“what gives you the right to call Americans inbreds, racists and pathetic posers.”
er… 75% of the posts on this page READ ABOVE. see if you arent frustrated by the statements above.
“if you ask me, you are the racist inbred pathetic poser.”
i think thats the point really – who would ask your opinion? i genuinely dont think anyone did – but i tell you what i will ask… could we possibly drop all the personal bulshite… and discuss the real issues?
what about campaigning towards getting the torture photos released? what about closing g’tmo? what about withdrawing from iraq?
you keep on comparing America and Iraq. There is NO comparison. for every 1 murder that occurs in the U.S. 20 occur in Iraq.
“why do those teenage boys keep shooting up schools in america?” haha. now thats funny. do you know how many Iraqi kids walk around with AKs? tons of them. you dont see that in America now do you? and iam not just talking about Iraqi teenagers, even 7 year olds are seen with them.
“you rape their prisoners – women and CHILDREN? and you expect them not to react?” Terrorist have been doing that for years you idiot!!! what about Saddam, and his famous sons. Uday raped so many women that if you had to keep count you couldnt.
Stop trying to compare one great, civilized country like America, who has its problems also, but at least our people dont live in caves, and our sons dont carry AKs down the street. And guess what? we DONT BLOW EACH OTHER UP.
pick up a book, and educate yourself
i unlike you know the difference between who is racist, and who is not. stop trying to deny it. you call other people racist, yet you are the biggest one, which makes you not only a racist, but a hypocrite as well.
“i think thats the point really – who would ask your opinion?” no one has asked your opinion either you pathetic piece of shit. Proud USA makes more sense than you
Thanks Benny.
“WE are the UK and america – marching around the world, conquering as we go. rape, pillage, slaughter of innocents. and yet you STILL cannot see the reason these people are angry” you make the UK and AMerica sound like Hitler. what about Iraq? a country who’s women cant walk around without their husbands or they get their ass whooped, or raped. How can you say that i STILL cannot see the reason why these people are angry? how can you say that when “THESE PEOPLE” kill each other also, not just Americans, “THESE PEOPLE” are fucking terrorist! it sounds like you are trying to defend them.
“why do those teenage boys keep shooting up schools in america?” haha. now thats funny. do you know how many Iraqi kids walk around with AKs? tons of them. you dont see that in America now do you? and iam not just talking about Iraqi teenagers, even 7 year olds are seen with them.”
ITS A WAR ZONE. BECAUSE THE USA ILLEGALLY INVADED.
““you rape their prisoners – women and CHILDREN? and you expect them not to react?” Terrorist have been doing that for years you idiot!!! what about Saddam, and his famous sons. Uday raped so many women that if you had to keep count you couldnt.”
OHHHH… thats ok then. tis fine. tis not a gross abuse of the powers usurped by the invading forces -I THOUGHT THE REASON THAT THE USA AND UK WENT THERE WAS TO ‘LIBERATE THE PEOPLE’? how the fuck is raping the prisoners under their care liberating them? AND YOU WANT THEM TO WELCOME THE FORCES WITH OPEN ARMS? get real.
For that matter – what about south africa? Jacob Zuma – with his wonderful his theme tune’bring me my machine gun’ blaring out on a world stage, and his defence IN COURT to a rape charge – ‘she was wearing a short skirt’. the ZANU PF rape, mutilate, starve, intern MDC members/supporters on a DAILY basis in zimbabwe. for fucks sake, they killed the wife of the opposition leader, cut the hands and feet off the wife of another party official – just so she couldnt run out when they burnt her, still alive, within her home.
women held under house arrest FOR DECADES as a ‘national threat’ in china… a steadfast refusal to mitigate the circumstances in north korea over the past decade? a foreign policy that alienated nearly every single country in the middle east? the house of saud? Irans ‘modesty policy’, the BNP potentially gaining seats in the UK parliament?
AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SADAAMS SONS? are you joking me? do you for one minute think that Bush ever thought beyond ‘OIL!’ and ‘FIRE’? that udays actions somehow are a retrospective reason for your country to smash up iraq, when there was no legal or ETHICAL basis to do so?
I TALK ABOUT IRAQ BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT. IRAQ IS WHERE THIS IS HAPPENING. STILL. bush declared the war there over in 200 and fucking 3… you people dont have a clue. and you tell me to educate myself?
sigh.
“THESE PEOPLE” hate everybody, even themselves. The Shiites, hate the Sunnis, the Sunnis hate the Shiites, and so on. As much harm as Americans have caused in Iraq, Iraqi terrorist, and the previously overthrown government of Saddam have caused a lot more damage than America has. And to their own country!! Saddam murdered tons of people, and his sons were the same exact shit as him. Torturing, raping and murdering THEIR OWN PEOPLE!!! If you ask me, Iraqis should be more mad at terrorist who are causing mayhem, and at Saddam, who is dead now, than at America. At least America is trying to take control and stop terrorist from blowing up churches, and they have also helped rebuild some of Iraq. When was the last time Saddam, or members of terrorist groups did this??
“what about Iraq? a country who’s women cant walk around without their husbands or they get their ass whooped, or raped. ”
numerous reports from supra-national human rights associations have highlighted the FALL in the autonomy of women since the Iraq invasion. Maybe this was not up to an acceptable standard – and indeed there are many thriving islamic feminist movements rising up in countries such as Iran. however – compare iraq to countries that YOUR TAX MONEY goes towards supporting. WE are fighting a war in afghanistan now – a country that has jsut legalised rape within a marriage, and marriage at the age of menstruation. CAN I UNDERLINE SOMETHING HERE – the war in afghanistan is being fought to PROTECT the legislature that passed these laws. YOUR MONEY.
in saudia arabia, women cannot be in the same room as men – which is particularly an issue in equality of education. a female student taught by a male lecturer is expected to receive tuition via video link. atrocious. and yet – womens rights are clearly not so important as to make america try to improve the situation which detriments so many women, so fundamentally.
so i refuse to accept the idea that the war in iraq was fought for ‘womens rights’. this important consideration was not a criterion in any way, shape or form.
so – we arrive right back to the start. why would the US go to war with iraq with no legal basis? and why does it continue to occupy?
“ITS A WAR ZONE. BECAUSE THE USA ILLEGALLY INVADED.” kids have been carrying AKs way before the USA invaded. These terrorist which you defend so much teach their kids these nasty things such as hate, and murder since they are young! Dont justify them. In Iraq, women get murdered, raped, and have their heads cut off, BY THEIR OWN PEOPLE. Terrorist blow up churches, and have even used disabled people to strap bombs onto them to blow up buildings. These terrorist who you defend have also used their own wife and kids as shields so American soldiers dont shoot at them. These terrorist are doing this to their own country, and to their own kind.
When was the last time when Americans blew each other up, strapped bombs onto the handicapped, or used their families as shields, or bombed their own churches??
this is a daily thing in Iraq. and its been happening WAY before the U.S invaded. so i say again, pick up a fucking book, and educate yourself. ignorance is not something to be proud of
“Torturing, raping and murdering THEIR OWN PEOPLE!!! ”
what do you mean by ‘their own people’… and why would the rape of ones own ‘people’ be any worse than the rape of someone other then their own ‘people’?
sounds like right wing bull shit to me. pandering to a popular pseudo-feminist vote. ridiculous shite.
” they have also helped rebuild some of Iraq. When was the last time Saddam, or members of terrorist groups did this??”
would anyone need to rebuild if america hadnt waded in and bombed the fuck out of it? rebuilding is the least they could do… and might i add… a fucking convenient money spinner.
““ITS A WAR ZONE. BECAUSE THE USA ILLEGALLY INVADED.” kids have been carrying AKs way before the USA invaded. These terrorist which you defend so much teach their kids these nasty things such as hate, and murder since they are young! ”
READ ABOVE. a wonderful woman who was tearfully proud that her 8 year old brother stated, with clenched fists…”we must kill them all daddy”… fucking atrociou. you talk of guns? guns are endemic in the US. yesterday another toddler killed her baby brother after finding ‘mommys’ gun under the bed.
“When was the last time when Americans blew each other up, strapped bombs onto the handicapped, or used their families as shields, or bombed their own churches??”
er… two weeks ago, an american soldier went mad with grief, and killed four of his tour mates… or dont you get that type of news in america? the suicide rates, the PTSD – be under no illusion, YOU ARE SENDING YOUR BROTHER TO THEIR DEATH.
“this is a daily thing in Iraq. and its been happening WAY before the U.S invaded. so i say again, pick up a fucking book, and educate yourself. ignorance is not something to be proud of”
you actually have no idea. not one.
hahahaha. lol. i never said this was a war of womens rights. i was just stating one of the many reasons why this country is so fucked up. its because everybody in it hates each other, and kill each other every single day. not just when the U.S entered, but way before. Its a country filled with good people, but plenty of terrorist as well. Which is why they should be eliminated. I doubt they ever will, but if they are eliminated, wouldnt it be nice to see people going to churches without bombs blowing up, or little kids carrying guns on the streets. it would be nice to actually see some peace.