Guest Post #2 – The Jewish Perspective

The Jewish Perspective

Prologue

I would like to take this opportunity to introduce a new section to Best Gore: “Guest Posts“. Even though I’m introducing it as something new, this is the second time I’ve asked a guess writer to offer their perspective to help put a little balance to the pages of Best Gore.

Guest Posts – as the name implies, will be written by somebody else, not me. It will provide a break from my incoherent blabber and hopefully offer a different perspective. And yes, this is also an invitation for you S.O.B.’s to become a little more integral part of the website – for as long as you can do it without plagiarizing other people’s writing.

Now to the topic of this Guest Post – I have been very critical of the Jews and Israel, that’s no secret. So I asked a Best Gore member who’s both Jewish and from Israel if he could write a Guest Post to share what could be called The Jewish Perspective with us. I could not possibly write it myself, because I do not share that point of view so there would ultimately be hints of anti Jewish sentiments in my words.

You may be asking – why? Why would I want to have the Jewish Perspective on my website? Because we live on the same planet. Because open dialogue is one of the things that can lead to a better understanding of one another and as we all know – misunderstandings as well as the lack of open dialogue are frequent causes of needless conflicts. I know thinking that Guest Posts could save the world is naive, but ignorance has never solved anything. Getting past one’s bias and listening to what the other side has to say very well could.

The Jewish Perspective

Hi, I’m Ori, and I’m Jewish.

I love this site; I visit it every few days, for several months now. Though there are things that bothered me greatly. So many posts related to death, suffering and all the bad things of this world being somehow connected to the “Zionists” though the topics are not slightly connected.

But what is Zionism? Well it seems like when people see or hear this word all they see is some kind of a terror organization that its master purpose is the destruction of all nations of the world, and represents the Jewish determination to control the world.

Well if we look in Wikipedia we’ll see this:

Zionism is a form of nationalism of Jews and Jewish culture that supports a Jewish nation state in territory defined as the Land of Israel.

We’ll that doesn’t sound so destructive to me, people who want their own state.

When Mark, the owner of this site, which I respect greatly, asked me if I would write an article to show my perspective of the world, it was so clear to me! I knew exactly what to write! I know so much of what goes on in Israel and the Middle East, from the simple fact – I live there!

Though I failed see the real problem. I thought I would write about Israel, my country, in which I’m so proud of! Show my truth about all this conflict! But in the last open post I understood that the problem goes way back before Israel.

The hate goes all the way back to the fact that I’m Jewish. How can you read my words about Israel objectively if I’m Jewish and you believe I’m trying to dominate you and control the whole world? How can you slightly accept my perspective when you think I’m some kind of a demon? How can you listen if you don’t think of me as a human being? The answer is you can’t… you probably just see a bunch of words which upsets you.

So, instead of looking at me as a Jew, please try to open up to me a little and look at me as a person, I’m a person, sadly for me, a very sensitive one. My psychologist (which I acquired through my military service) told me that my experience of things is far more difficult than most people. Almost everything said to me goes through my skin, directly to my heart… and I have a big one I assure you.

That’s partly why it was so damn difficult reading the last open post, “Satanic Jews”. That’s why it is so hard for me to be remembered of the horrible stuff written about “Zionists” even in the about page. It hurt me so bad that I just had to answer this time, I signed up and tried to defend my country, but again the problem was even more basic than my country. It was my race. And the biggest hit was the comments I got while I was desperately trying to counter endless of baseless awful accusations. People really hate us, what I thought to be in the not so far past of the human history, is still pretty much alive in front of me.

So here I am, on the spot, after a night of guarding, without any sleep, trying to make a little change, trying to reach out to you guys, from my current shelter.

I want to address some of the things said, in the comments and in the open post, even the traumatic about page. According to the last open post I’m “excluded from being called human”. Why?

The immediate trigger was the assignation of El Jabari and the air strikes on Gaza; Even though those were committed as a retaliation of nonstop missile launch against our civilians. But yet, we are the terrorist. I’ll try to leave Israel a side for now; because it’s a huge subject itself… hopefully I’ll get a chance to represent it as well.

Yet there are so many triggers that lead that way, seems like no matter where it happens, it’s probably the Jews fault…

“The Chosen People” – A meaningless line from the bible, that got you guys really upset. In the bible we are being described that way a few times. But I think that’s the belief of every people which are religious no matter what religion. If we leave that out for a second, it’s just insignificant detail in a book full of fairy tales. I don’t believe there’s any god, any religion for me is a way to control people. And I think many of you also believe that, yet using some awful lines described there which no one takes seriously seems legit. If we already judge the bible (you might as well, pick peter pan story to quote) why don’t we judge it for the wonderful stuff that is written in it (as much as I hate it, there are some). And I won’t even start comparing it to the Koran which is far worst. Anyway most Israelis are non-religious, and everyone is free to believe what he wants.

“Satan’s chosen” – was just another expression used to promote hate without using any facts. I can’t blame people for hating us, I think naturally it’s far easier to create anger and hate when you don’t understand someone and he is different from you (even if he is not all that different).

I want to address a few accusations:

Jews are not racist, if at all we are proud people. And I believe it’s not for nothing, Jews even though being very small percentage of the population, achieve some great stuff, even if you take away some of the accomplishment. Israel in 64 years of existence is far greater than a lot of nations that were around for many decades. I’m proud of my country… very proud; I don’t think that’s something bad. The greatest and most glorious nations are proud patriots, look at the Americans. Hating Jews and being an anti-semitic is racist, and saying it isn’t, just justify hate.

There were some more accusations that really bothered me, but now I see that to address them, I will need to address Israel subject a little bit, please watch this short video and then read my comments.

If the Arabs (Muslims) put down their weapons today there would be no more violence. If the Israelis put down their weapons today there would be no more Israel“. – I’m sorry if you don’t believe that. But my heart does.

Now the accusations:

1) Zionists ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of people

The highest number of Dead Palestinians I could Google was: 6617, since September 29, 2000. And it all was during operations of defense, we don’t just go to operations wasting our lives and money, we try to survive in a very hard place.

Now I want you to please look at the current operation, we keep getting better and more accurate weapons to hit Hamas and not the people whom they are hiding behind. But please try to understand the complexity of the situation… 1350 air attacks were made against missile launchers, and rocket basements. And the odds of a mistake that will cost life of innocent people are against us… but yet if we few Palestinians gets killed the world shouts more than if 200 Syrians are killed daily by their regime. Could the world have double standards? What country, not only live under constant rocket bombing, but also provides food, water, electricity and money to their enemies?! It’s stupidly insane. Yet it happens, and Israel defending itself is not a crime.

2) Zionists tortured hundreds of thousands of people

I guess what was meant was the torture of the Palestinians, when we retaliate their missile with air attacks when we try to defend ourselves. So if we torture Hundreds of thousands of people, Hamas currently intentionally shoot rockets at civilians. 3.5 million Civilians live under rocket attacks from Gaza, so I guess they are torturing millions.

3) In an email Mark said to me that he is not an anti-Jewish, only anti – violence- which in his point of view, coming from the Jews more than anyone else.

It was really hard for me to understand why he thinks that. Look at all the world – Africa, all the Arab nations that slaughter themselves daily… Is Israel, a little humane democratic country, the most violent? Are the Jewish people the most violent? Why?

Because we have a country we want to keep, in an environment that is pretty much the most hateful and brainwashed in the world? You can believe whatever you want in Israel, you can be gay, you can be a woman and have rights, look at our enemies.

Why no one stood up for the Palestinians when they lived under Jordanian rule? Today it’s really easy for every Arab / Muslim country to rise against Israel to raise their value in front of the Arab world.

4) One comment I got, said that the Jews control the USA. They are super powerful, and threatening with nukes other nations existence.

I’ll say that, there are successful Jews in the USA. USA and Israel share technology, Intelligence and values which makes us great allies. Though the US won’t do stuff that don’t benefits it, saying we control it is a bunch of bull.

Israel never threatened to nuke or the existent of any other country. While being constantly threatened by Hamas Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, The Muslim Brotherhood and own and own. You can see it in every official speech, they make…

In the same comment, it was said that our victim mentality, is the cause for the hate towards us. The fact that we are being taught to be haters. Well I’m not an hater, I wasn’t taught to be one. My people had a hard fucking history. But I’m a lover; if you knew me you also know I’m a super romantic and carrying person. I don’t care what race you are from, I find myself repeatedly sympathizing with the poor Palestinians, that just want to live with no hate, but suffers because to the goddamn brainwashed terrorist who hunts us. And there are many more like me. I’m currently trying to reach to you, not with hate, not with judgment, but with understanding.

One last thing I’d like to ask, when you think of Jews, when you judge them, remember they are human. Some of them are wonderful people; some are less, just like any other nation.

Agree, disagree, have any comments? I want to hear your perspective as well. I will address every replay I can… I will do anything to answer your truthful questions… I will gladly answer everyone I’ll be able to, but please don’t address to me with baseless accusations and hate, I try to treat everyone with repect, please do the same when you respond to me.

I thank you so much if you survived the reading so far, whether it got to you a little, or not. I tried to address the things the seemed the most important to me, and I know it came out a little long.

Epilogue

I checked the website’s stats today – in the last 30 days a total of 10,438 people from Israel perused Best Gore. On a grand scheme of things, this is not that much given that the website is used by over 5 million people a month. But it’s still 10 thousand presumed Jews who visit Best Gore, of whom 40% visit daily. I would like to express my sincere thanks to those thousands of Jews who despite really harsh criticism remain loyal fans of the website.

That being said – I would like to remind everyone that while Best Gore is an English language website, it serves an international community which includes people whose first language is not English. Best Gore member BarneyS who wrote the Jewish Perspective guest post is one of them. Best Gore is NOT a “speak perfect English or die” website so if you feel like being a grammar Nazi, feel free to take your arrogance elsewhere.

I would like to encourage open discussion, but no personal attacks. I was not bribed nor coerced into publishing this article. I asked Best Gore member BarneyS who I knew was from Israel via email, if he would be interested in writing a response to my Open Post. I wanted to add a little more equal balance to Best Gore and didn’t feel comments were quite “equal” enough.

Vincit Omnia Veritas,

Mark

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180 thoughts on “Guest Post #2 – The Jewish Perspective

  1. I fully support Israel on there retaliation. The Palestinian people started firing rockets into Israel so what were they expected to do? Stand by and take it? In world war 2 the Germans bombed England and killed innocent people. Did England retaliate? You betcha they dead they burned the German cities twice as bad. A few palestinians civilians have been killed by the air strikes but could you imagine what the death toll would be if they blindly shot their camel rockets like the Palestinians did? So I completely support the Jews in this conflict.

    • Isreael is a state that shouldnt really exsist today. We created it after we won ww2 and decided to give the jews thier homeland from the bible while ignoring the fact for the last thousand years other people have been living there. The Jews then went to war to protect their new nation and there is only 1 fact needed to know after this point.
      The strong defend what they have and survive and the weak die.
      History-wise at this point, it dosnt matter anymore who stole who’s land or who’s ancestors thinks this land is “holy” , time to make peace or destroy your enemies.

    • Good article, but to be honest, Jews are not a race, as most people think, they are a religious group of people that pursue Judaism. It is like saying Christians or Muslims – they are not limited to just Israel.

      That being said, Ori doesn’t believe in a god, and that would make him an atheist.

      He is NOT jewish, he is simply Israeli.

        • Ten questions to the Zionists
          by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT”L
          Dean of Nitra Yeshiva and author of min hametzar
          (Published by the author in 1948 and reprinted many times)

          1.
          IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:
          a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and
          b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and
          c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

          2.
          IS IT TRUE that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

          3.
          IS IT TRUE that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:
          a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.
          b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a “Jewish State” at the end of the war.
          c) No ransom will be paid

          4.
          IS IT TRUE that this response to the Gestapo’s offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.

          5.
          IS IT TRUE that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved.

          6.
          IS IT TRUE that the same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).

          7.
          IS IT TRUE that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.

          8.
          IS IT TRUE that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation “Only to Palestine!”

          9.
          IS IT TRUE that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The “Jewish Agency” leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.

          10.
          IS IT TRUE that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first “Jewish statesman” stated: “The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important”. Weitzman’s cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation “One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe”.

          There are additional similar questions to be asked of these atheist degenerates known as “Jewish statesmen”, but for the time being let them respond to the ten questions.
          These Zionist “statesmen” with their great foresight, sought to bring an end two two-thousand years of Divinely ordained Jewish subservience and political tractability. With their offensive militancy, they fanned the fires of anti-Semitism in Europe, and succeeded in forging a bond of Jew-hatred between Nazi-Germany and the surrounding countries.

          These are the “statesmen” who organized the irresponsible boycott against Germany in 1933. This boycott hurt Germany like a fly attacking an elephant – but it brought calamity upon the Jews of Europe. At a time when America and England were at peace with the mad-dog Hitler, the Zionist “statesmen” forsook the only plausible method of political amenability; and with their boycott incensed the leader of Germany to a frenzy. And then, after the bitterest episode in Jewish history, these Zionist “statesmen” lured the broken refugees in the DP camps to remain in hunger and deprivation, and to refuse relocation to any place but Palestine; only for the purpose of building their State.

          The Zionist “statesmen” have incited and continue to incite an embittered Jewish youth to futile wars against world powers like England, and against masses of hundreds of millions of Arabs.

          AND THESE SAME ZIONIST “STATESMEN” HEEDLESSLY PUSH THE WORLD TO THE BRINK OF ANOTHER TOTAL WAR – REVOLVING ENTIRELY AROUND THE HOLY LAND.

          What may befall the Jewish inhabitants of Palestine, of the Arab crescent, Europe, or the USA; is of no concern to these Zionist leaders. The rising anti-Semitism in the Western World is the product of their “statesmanship”.

          Under the guise of “love of Israel”, the Zionist “statesmen” seduced many Jews to replace devotion to the Torah and its Sages with devotion to the scoundrel who founded Zionism. It is of no little significance that Herzl originally sought conversion of the Jews as a solution to the problems of the Diaspora. When he realized that this was not acceptable to the Jewish masses, he contrived Zionism as a satisfactory alternative!

          A look into history reveals that this very same type of “statesmen” opposed the call of Jeremiah the prophet to yield to the minions of Nebuchadnezzar at the destruction of the first Temple. Five centuries later, Rabbi Yochonon Ben Zakai appealed to the people to surrender to Titus the Roman to avoid bloodshed. The “statesmen” rejected this appeal, and the second Temple was destroyed by the Romans. — And now for the past fifty years, the Zionist “statesmen” rebuff the leadership of our Sages; and continue in their policy of fomenting anti-Semitism. When will they stop?? Must every Jew in America also suffer?? – Even the Nazi monsters had more sense, and gave up their war before all Germany was destroyed. The Zionist “statesmen” ridicule the sacred oath which the Creator placed upon the Jews in the Diaspora. Our Torah, in Tractate Ksubos, folio 111, specifies that the Creator, blessed be He, swore the Jews not to occupy the Holy Land by force, even if it appears that they have the force to do so; and not rebel against the Nations. And the Creator warned that if His oath be desecrated, Jewish flesh would be “open property”, like the animals in the forest!! These are words of our Torah; and these concepts have been cited in Maimonides’ “Igeres Teimon”, “Be’er HaGola”, “Ahavas Yehonosson”, and in “Toras Moshe” of the Chasam Sofer.

          IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL THE SAGES AND SAINTS IN EUROPE AT THE TIME OF HITLER’S RISE DECLARED THAT HE WAS A MESSENGER OF DIVINE WRATH, SENT TO CHASTEN THE JEWS BECAUSE OF THE BITTER APOSTASY OF ZIONISM AGAINST THE BELIEF IN THE EVENTUAL MESSIANIC REDEMPTION.

          Yidden – merciful sons of merciful fathers – how much longer must holy Jewish blood continue to be shed??

          The only solution is:

          The Jewish people must reject, outright, a “Jewish State”.

          The Jewish people should accept the US compromise.

          We must depose the atheist-Zionist “statesmen” from their role as Jewish leaders, and return to the faithful leadership of our sages.

          We beseech the Nations to open all doors to immigration – not only the doors of Palestine.

          Peaceful, non-Zionist religious personalities in Palestine, (particularly from the native population) and their counterparts in the Diaspora, should engage in responsible, face-to face negotiations on behalf of the Jewish people, with the British and the Arabs; with an aim of amicable settlement of the Palestine issue.

          Every Jew is obliged to pray to the Blessed creator, for in Him lies all our strength. Let us bear in mind that our prayers be forthright. One should not entreat the Creator to provide a banquet on Yom Kippur, and one can not perform a ritual ablution with a dead bug in his hand. Similarly, we should avoid the untenable position of the robber who prays for Divine help in carrying out his crime. We should pray that Zionism and its fruits vanish from the Earth, and that we be redeemed by the Messiah with dispatch.

          A prisoner is released only when he has served his time, or if he is pardoned by the President for good behavior. If he attempts escape and is apprehended, his term is lengthened, besides the beating he receives when he is caught.

          Faithful Jews- for over three and one-half thousand years, in all parts of the world, through all trials, our grandfathers and grandmothers marched through seas of blood and tears in order to keep the Faith of the Torah unswervingly. If we have compassion for ourselves, for our women and children, and for the Jewish people, we will maintain our golden legacy today. We have been sentenced to exile by the King of Kings because of our sins. The eternal blessed be He, has decreed that we accept the exile with humble gratitude until the time comes, or until we merit His pardon through repentance if we seek to end the exile with force, G-d will catch us, as our sages have forewarned, and our sentence becomes longer and more difficult.

          Many times in the past have segments of our people been defrauded by false messiahs – but none of the false messiahs has been as fallacious and delusory as the lie of Zionism. With our historical experience as our guide, no retribution has been or will be greater than the retribution for giving credence to Zionism. If we wish our exile-sentence commuted, we must appeal through repentance; and through total physical and spiritual observance of the Sabbath, laws of family purity, and study of Torah.

          Let it be clearly understood that never in Jewish history (even in the time of Jeroboam or Achav) have such hostile atheists stood at the helm of he Jewish people as today.

          How can we plead to the Almighty for mercy while we tolerate these vile, “wicked” leaders as spokesmen! Beloved brothers – let us cleanse our ranks and cleanse our midst; let us entreat the Almighty through prayer, repentance, and fulfillment of mitzvos that He alone redeem us, immediately.

        • 1.
          IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:
          a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and
          b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and
          c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

          2.
          IS IT TRUE that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

          3.
          IS IT TRUE that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:
          a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.
          b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a “Jewish State” at the end of the war.
          c) No ransom will be paid

          4.
          IS IT TRUE that this response to the Gestapo’s offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.

          5.
          IS IT TRUE that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved.

          6.
          IS IT TRUE that the same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).

          7.
          IS IT TRUE that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.

          8.
          IS IT TRUE that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation “Only to Palestine!”

          9.
          IS IT TRUE that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The “Jewish Agency” leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.

          10.
          IS IT TRUE that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first “Jewish statesman” stated: “The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important”. Weitzman’s cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation “One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe”.

        • If you do not believe in a god, then how do we share traditions? Do you observe Shabbat? Eat Kosher? Pray to HaShem?

          Please do not claim to be jewish if you do not at least believe in god. In Judaism, you would not be considered jewish, you would be considered a lost soul.

          • I celebrite holiday as traditions. there are milions of jews aboard who are not believers. yet they are jewish.

            being a jew is more than believing. I’m an ancestor of jews and share their history.

            I’m sorry i’d never agree with you on that one.

          • You celebrate holidays? For what? All of our jewish holidays are about how God took us out of Egypt.

            If you do not believe in God, then your celebrations are in vain.

            I am not looking for you to agree with me, because it is not me who says this. Look into the Gemara, Shulchan Aruch, lost souls who think their jewish because of their ancestors. Being jewish is a present thing, not of things of old.

            Your ignorance saddens my heart even more that you believe you are something you are not.

            Return to your roots and reclaim the ability to be called Jewish because in the eyes of HaShem and our forefathers, there is no such thing as a secular jew.

          • Hi, I didnt mean for this to end up as a fight, sorry to upset you.

            Though there are many holidays which doesnt involve the bible. like “hag ailanot” – the Trees holiday lol, sounds funny in English.
            Or rosh ahshana…

            And yet there are also some based on the Bible… Which I accepted cause those are nice stories, And it brings us togther.
            I dont care to take positive things from the bible and make them tradition, if it brings us all togther, And dont cross too many lines (in my believe, thats not in vain).

            But im not looking at the bible or the gmara to tell me if im jewish or not.. My mom and dad are jewish, im currently living and defending the jewish state, My relatives died in the holocaust for being jewish. So I’m sorry but im as jewish as it gets.

            As much as some believing jews wont accept us that way (which in my opinion is shameful).
            Live and let live. Dont force someone to believe, and dont try redefine a non believing jew.

            I’m not gonna try and prove my jewishness to no god, i dont believe.

            Btw, in Israel, the land of the jewish people, its enough that your mother is a jew, to be considered jewish, no religion view needed for that.

          • Self righteous Whiny fuckin kikes. I don’t see any explanations just more lies and excuses. Zionismthe (jew)-N trialateral swine jewish lobby world bank and what about all these Jewish rabbinic pedophile swine getting caught in child smuggling rings google Purim sacrifice blood libel your religion is pure evil you don’t worshipgod you worshipBaal/molech Solomon the satanic black sorcerer if anybody reads your book of fairy tale lies knows you people are a demonic race of backstabbing judas charlatans, non-kikes look up what goyim means or gentile in the Talmudor torrah,Kabbalah it is what these dirty vermin call non Jews: limbs of Satan, uselesscattle for the slaughter, basically a slave lower than a dog, blacks they call you akum or schwarzky you are even lower obvious
            ly I have to stop or I will be here ranting all night , they have been playing victim all throughhistory and it caught up with them in the past up till the end of ww2 when there golden age began when hey migrated back to their price of shit splat countryin 1948 and started genociding Palestinians and forcing them off their land starvingal the little children. Your history is made up of lies and hiding your past history and playing victim so no one finds out how evil you are when they do you just call them anti smites, nazis, new haters babel is going to burn again!!!!and fuck israel nation of heathen pork die hebraicrace vermin

  2. props man, for allowing an opposing opinion to be posted and read here. i’ve been around enough to know there are two sides to every story or situation, and that you can not truly understand something without knowing both sides…

  3. thank you for taking the time to do this, Ori…Palestine and Hamas want you dead, you want to exist as a free state, what happened that makes you so dangerous to them? is it simply because you promote freedom while they oppress?
    also, you said you are Jewish but do not believe in god, how does that work?

    • ex: One day there will be a country known as “The agnostic Theocracy of Antarctica” ruled by Mormons, but the southern region is controlled by Jehovahs Witness. The ATA goes through a 20 year civil war, 20 years of bloodshed. Little do they know the wiccan’s control the ATA. don;t get me started on the year 33440 A.L (after life)

    • Hi, thanks for the replay.
      As I said being a jew isnt all about faith. theres the history and the tradition. most israelis are not hardcore believers (To say the least) yet they are jews.

      About Hamas, they want all Israel for themself. they want us dead. No real peace agreement can be reach with an organization that refues to recognize your exsistent or your legitimsy to exist. they’ll fight us to death before any peace agreement will be signed.

      Hamas have to change drasticlly before anything can happen. They’ll say to the world they want peace… but hear their statements… they want us dead.

      peace will be when Hamas will love their childern more than they hate us. or if it falls.

      • Just because you believe something doesn’t mean it is true. The truth is – being Jewish is a derivative of Judaism, and if you do not observe Judaism, then you are not Jewish.

        It is like saying you are a Christian because I live in the US or I am a Roman Catholic because I live in Italy but do not believe in Jesus. It just sounds ridiculous. You may have the blood, the roots, but if you do not have the belief and practice, you are not jewish. You may think you make sense with the rest of the non-observant Israeli’s, but when the water boils down and you study the meaning of being Jewish, you will realize you are not one.

  4. Nice post Ori, and nice gesture Mark. Mark, I’ve always known your posts to be really anti-zionist rather than anti-semetic. There’s a difference BTW, however, I still always dismiss them as incoherent rambling perhaps caused by that living so many years indoors surrounded by Canadian Arctic wasteland. So props to you for showing you’re a real intellectual instead of a run of the mill sadistic whips and chains canuck.

    • I’ve travelled around the world since August 2008. I took a few months back in Canada this year but am back to being the citizen of the world again.

      • Hi Mark,
        I’m an American Jew and visit Best Gore daily. Would you mind sharing a little about your family background/ personal life experiences with Jews? I’m just curious about how you formed such strong opinions. Not to argue with any of your views, just curious….Thanks

        • My parents are Christian Catholics. I’m non religious, apolitical, with no cultural, sport or other affiliations. I have never met a Jew in my life. If I have, it was not revealed to me that they were Jewish. I do however live without pink shades over my eyes. I add two and two and am not afraid to draw a conclusion that it’s four, even if the whole world tells me they got five.

          My beef with the Jews started when I realized that the entire Holocaust story is one big pile of bullshit. When I realized that gas chambers for extermination of humans run by the Nazis never existed and saw how Germans are made to feel sorry for things they never did.

          Now that I think of it – I did have a virtual friend from Israel a long time ago. We used to chat on MSN from time to time because she was into BDSM as much as I was so we shared ideas and experiences. At that time I viewed a person from Israel the same way as person from any other country – it’s a person from a foreign country. But then Israel launched massive bombing of Palestine and Hamas retaliated so she whined to me on MSN that she has bombs flying over her head. Not once has she mentioned any form of concern over thousands of women and children who are being incinerated in their beds in Palestine. I started looking deeper into it and what got absolutely disgusted with what Israel was doing to the Palestinians.

          From that point on, the more I was studying the events of WWII and realized that everyone who dared to speak truth about what happened was either assassinated or imprisoned, I knew something was very wrong. Then when massive media campaigns were launched to character assassinate people who mentioned Jews in a negative way, the knowledge was vastly enforced. Then as I learned about such things as defamation bureaus operated by the Jews to destroy anyone who dares to point out their lies as well as other similar shenanigans, it was clear as all hell who the bad guys are. From that point on, I just kept my eyes open and saw all other things come together and that’s where I am now.

          As a Jewish person – have you ever read what prominent Jews say about the gentiles? Do you think I’m gonna stand by why Jews refer to me as cattle and make remarks that it’s not a sin to kill me because I’m not a Jew?

          It is beyond disturbing that a Jew can say he’s proud to be Jewish, or a black person that he’s proud to be black, but when a white man says he’s proud of his white heritage, he’s immediately labeled a racist and bigot and that’s sickening.

          • Thanks for your response Mark. I am not in favor of what’s going on in Israel/Palestine right now so relate to your thoughts on that. However, why would you think the Holocaust was fake? I don’t understand what would be gained by making it up. My grandmother is an Auschwitz survivor by the way. Her first husband, brother, and parents were killed. If you saw the pain in her eyes when asked about these experiences, you may have a different opinion.
            I come from a family of “prominent Jews” and we have many gentile friends, honestly. It just seems like you look at things from a black and white perspective, ignoring the grey.

          • I alwayswwondered the same about race pride. But when you think back, the white race really has nothing to be proud about. In the states they obliterated the natives. In Africa they tore millions from their families. We have done a lot of good to this existance but wehave also done more tHan our fair share of evil. Just figuredId chime in for once.

          • All Israel wants to do is live in peace, like america does (to a point) but they are in fact damn good fighters they will defend their country even if they know they will lose, like america will. Jews are not a race Mark. They are a group of people formed by belief. Nothing more or greater than that. I see why you might hate the Jews for the whole “gas chamber” thing. But the fact of the matter is people will always find a way to defend themselves with words alone. People who fight with words are cowards the blacks defend themselves with the race card the germans are just the white people to the jews and the jews to the rest of the entire world who will hate them. You can be proud to be whatever the hell you want. Be it a nigger or a chink or a cracker or a kike or a biblethumper or a faggot. You see those are all just words mark. Words meant to belittle people. But thats just all they are. Words.

          • I knew an Auschwitz survivor. She showed me the number tattoo on her arm given to her by the Nazis. I doubt that this old lady lied through her teeth about what happened to her and her family. And as for the gas chambers they undeniably existed. The Russians found them, the Americans found them (it’s what gave the US the idea of using cyanide in a chamber for executions). I’ve also done extensive research on WWII and I used to consider myself quite the aficionado.

            I think the only lie about the WWII is that the Americans were all pure and good, and the absolute demonization of the Nazis by them. In battle we’re all evil. Did you know that after the war the Americans and British actually contemplated carpet bombing China and Russia with nuclear weapons! This actually almost happened.

          • WTF, Mark. All this happened to me just in the last one and a half years. Before that as a freethinker I thought moolahs ruling my country were bullshitters and brainwashers. The rest is kinda like your story. BTW I’m from the terrorist nuclear state of I-ran.

  5. This is by far one of the best posts I have read. We do not all share a hatred for Jews and I most definitely don’t. Im actually a Christian person but the area I grew up in was majority Jewish. Basing this on simple childhood views these people were friendly and lovely. The majority of my high school were Jewish and in my opinion just people. Im actually on your side with the ongoing problem of present. My concern is the Muslim population, rather then be ignorant I’ve recently ordered a Koran as Im interested to read what I call the book of hate then I can make a fair judgement for myself as to why a lot of world conflicts seem to involve this religion. I personally believe this is the issue the world has and not Jewish people. It’s very easy to blame and display hate when you don’t truly understand as we’ve sometimes seen on this site but that is a natural human nature. Always looking for blame to be placed with someone. Thank you for an interesting post and I definitely welcome you here :-)

    • I hope that Qur’an is from a reputable source and comes with a commentary, otherwise I can guarantee that you won’t understand a thing. English translations of the Qur’an without one won’t help you at all.

      I would even go so far as to find biggest mosque you can and speak with an imam.

  6. Well Ori I understand you’re frustration with all the hatred toward Jews and i sympathize with you and you’re people. If only you’re words were heard and taken for truth by objective person’s it would be a start in the right direction. Peace to you my friend.

  7. Wow, I have never wanted to reply till I saw this drivel.

    You are naive to the world. To say zionists are not bad because they just want to make their own state… Yes I fucking do think that is appalling to go onto someone elses land and seize it because of someone’s fucked up beliefs.

    I think it’s fucking appauling I cannot hand out a bible in fucking Jerusalem because you Zionist fucks.

    I think it’s appalling Israel has had nukes for fucking 20 or so years but wants to level Iran for the same fucking reason.

    I think it’s fucking appaulling Israel has hundreds of un resolutions against them, most unresolved.. Explain that.. Fucking can’t believe the ignorance.

    I am appalled the united states of freedom. Lol lol, has a fucking socialist
    country as it’s butt buddy. Nazi Germany has nothing on Israel.

    I am appalled IDF has openly attacked us, un troops for fun. These assholes need to be strung from a fucking church.

    I am appalled you write a fucking open post without doing more research then from your Zionist controlled Wikipedia. I do not hate wikipedia but do not believe a fucking world about Israel that is written in Wikipedia. To call Israel- Palestine anything but a genocide is complete bullshit.

    Follow the fucking un mandate that allowed Israel to come into existence and their wouldn’t be a fucking problem with palestine. Once you start invading a country with your fucking settlers your lucky they only have shitty fucking rockets. While Israel has the “us” iron dome. Fuck off you Zionist pig. Read a book open your eyes.

    Your country is run by terrorist genocidal meglomanic fucking children.

    Any army that fights women and children is the devils army. Palestine has been reduced to shit but Israel claims they are a threat.

    • Put across in a most adult manner. Was there really any need for all the swearing and aggression. No wonder war exists with such hatred. Since when did the middle east and Allah become an act of peace. Only when it suits I guess huh!!!

    • I have to add one more remark. With out Ashkenazi Jewish Karl Marx there would be no communism, socialism. In theory countless millions of people would have been saved.

      Who would the US go to war with if it wasn’t for communism…. Lol. The one true communist country is able to operate under the wing of the united states…

    • and i find it appalling that a bunch of white europeans “found” american’t and slaughtered the native inhabitants because of what they “believe”,
      and i find it appalling that the british sent the worst of their kind to a giant island to compromise the lives and genetic integrity of the native inhabitants
      and i find it appalling that both germany and russia saw fit to take Poland apart piece by piece until at one point there was no Poland at all…
      and i find it appalling that there are american women who make tens of millions of dollars every year for doing absolutely-fucking-nothing while i work 6 to 7 days a week every goddamn week…
      stop bein so angry about shit you can’y control!

      • I 2nd that obliterator. Also FroZn you must be pretty ignorant to think communism is a Jewish problem. Don’t you think someone else would have come up with communism if Karl Marx hadn’t?

      • What people are you referring to in relation to “the British sent all the worst of their kind to a giant island”?

        Are you referring to Australians? Cause if so, then you need to read some history books on who they ACTUALLY sent to Australia. ( iam Australian btw )

      • The Brittish did not send thier worst to “a giant island to compromise the lives and genetic integrity of the native inhabitants” they sent petty criminals who were forced while in chains to build a new country called Australia. Don’t comment on Australia when you clearly don’t know our history. They were people who stole loaves of bread hankies and yes a few were murderers and rapists but they were not sent to destroy the aborigines, they were sent here to be imprisoned for the most part for petty crimes, crimes today you would get a slap on the wrist for.
        And yes the first day of Australian History is quite horrible ( the actual first day was full of rape and murder due to the “guards” freeing the criminals to run amok, but what do you think would happen after being chained the whole way here, we aussie are the inly people hwo know what forced migration is when chains are involved aside from the black slaves in america.)

        • Typo in last post, i ment to say we aussie’s also know what forced migration in chains is like, along with the black slaves of america, but we only had 7-14 years imprisonment not a life of slavery, sorry about the typo iam pritty high atm, hard to word things :P

          • damnit, i just needed some examples of shit to throw at FroZn, no offense was meant dude and you fucking know that

    • @ Frozn

      “You are naive to the world. To say zionists are not bad because they just want to make their own state… Yes I fucking do think that is appalling to go onto someone elses land and seize it because of someone’s fucked up beliefs.”

      Please continue to tell me how america was formed… You know, what with those darned annoying injuns in the way and all that.

      • im a bit lost here jews got payed with a country .. and the natives in us kinda have there own lands again wich they control with own laws and stuff now stop bringin history.. just saying the world owes nothing not to jews nor indians .. dues payed … dont bring holocaust ages ago… cant wrap my head around jews have the mentality of that the whole world owes them all kind of shit wich we dont… like said further above whites arent allowed to be proud of that .. but blacks are allowed jews are allowed muslims are allowed what the fuck its the white man who is chased

    • Hey, I read your comment again.
      I dont think i can change your mind, you have alot of anger towards us…
      But I will say my opinion of some of the things you said.

      We didnt came in starting to seize everything around us… its just not like that. all the lands were bought legaly from arabs. When the britan mendate was over, and the Un decalred the states the war started. A war the arabs started, 7 arabs armies against jews with sticks. they still lost. The War like any other war had consequenses.

      I dont know what you mean with the bible. Israel is a free country you can rip a bible apart if you want. but it wont be very respectful of you.

      so you say israel has nukes for over 20 years… how many nukes were landed on our enemies in that time?
      Now imagne a NUCLEAR IRAN.. A MUSLIM STATE THAT RUNS BY RELIGION AND CALLS FOR EXTERMINATION OF ISRAELIES AND AMERICANS, jee.. thats a great idea isnt it?

      Im not familiar nor able to find anything the idf did to un, so i m sorry i cant comment on that.

      iron dome is and israeli development that was sponserd by the help of the US. thats true.

      i wish you could be a little more objective.. i dont see a way to have a honest aruge with you… oh btw your army of anglic kids and women just blew up a bus in Tel Aviv, oh sweet little angles…

  8. I don’t hate jews but Akbar allashit and other muslim Arabullshit. They are the disease to these world and use oil to make them ruler. To me who kills more people in a country, Mexico or Syria? Who kills more than 2,000 American in a single attack 9/11? And who execute or beheading overseas contact worker(from a 3rd world country) for killing their own but if their own people kill foreign worker they can get away from murder. To me Muslim is a Cancer!

      • Braincrusher, that was the most decent comment on this topic. No offend to the Israeli writer, your thoughts were very intresting and your daily life to. But as Braincrusher emply, the world is dominated by someone? Media for example n television has praised the multiculture society, does who dare to speak out against it, get the racistmark, does who not believe the holocaust will be crucified for ever! But to terrorize muslims in the news is alright? To say to the readers “they are the biggest threat in the world!!”, that to me is pure hatebreeding! Yes, today many muslims are a threat to us, I admitt. Not because we are nonmuslims, only reason to their hate is You, my friend… You are sitting there with your USimported gun n ammo on your 20hour watch, in your believe to protect “your country”, you are the to protect your leaders that stole the ground that’s under your feet. And those leaders are the chairmen in the US congress. Anyway, congrats to the peaceagreement. I hope it will last long in the future and most importens, no more bloodshed!

    • Total agree, Muslim is the Satan of the world spreading like a disease causing death and destruction. How can they even value life when they think life is a test for something after and better. Creeping into every country like as you say a cancer. Eventually we won’t even be able to defend our own countries as we will be outnumbered. Welcome to a future of Muslim and THAT is by far the problem.

      • so its worse to flood country´s slowly than it is to dump hard on a country with napalm burn down peoples house with kids inside when the ashes are gone build house at same exact spot and claim the land always ben the jews i dont like muslims more than jews but come on

        • I didn’t say the Israel was righteous or the good guys. The fact that I live in a poor country which is shared by muslim. I read news about the war in mindanao they were asking to stop and give peace a chance and then sign an ARMM agreement with the MNLF but some break away group form an MILF but after so many. years of loss of life never did the MNLF help the government from stoping the MILF always govt soldier and there is also Abu Sayyaf which consider terrorist not rebel by NATO which include kidnapping and murder of American civilian also had contact with Al Queda. I strongly believe they have the same breed as all the Muslim rebel Why the fuck they never erase in the face of earth with all these year. Now president Pnoy make peace with the MILF and another breakaway group is form WTF? Another fucking ARMM with another full of bullshit peace by a sissy gay president pnoy a sheep for US.

    • Dude, and who finances the killers in Syria? Also, Mossad is known to have had the intelligence that the 9/11 attacks were coming. Whether they were behind it is uncertain, but at the minimum they knew about it and did nothing. But if you look at the history of Jewish false flag attacks, and their interest to bring the US troops to the Iraq, it wouldn’t surprise me if they did more than just know about it. Jews are skilled tricksters, they would know how to manipulate the public into being torn between the official report that Muslim extremists did it and a fake conspiracy theory that it was an insider job.

          • What benefit did the US government get after taking the lives of 3,000 people including their citizen? A reason to invade Aghanistan and Iraq or satisty their Jewih master? The only thing I see that US government to blame of is the supply of arms to fight the Ruskies maybe because of the cold war I don’t know. after the war with the. Ruskies they probably got a mis understanding.

    • dude not all of them, don’t judge any a person from his religion . . . . there good and bad in every one…. look at malaysia, or Brunei.. do they kill forener even thow they are Muslim country? are there a cancer to because they are Muslim?… duh how about Jews in your country? do they kill any one there for their GOD?…. man just don’t judge . . . . .

  9. watching and visiting this site is one thing, hating other ppl is way other thing then we came here for, im not sure anyone came to this site with a goal to hate somebody or post some comment that would hurt other man, control yourself ppl, dont let some few second video make us all enemies

  10. I actually found that very interesting and refreshing; it’s great to hear what life is like ‘first hand’ in Israel rather than what the mass media throw at us. Ori you did a great job of writing that, and I thank you for doing so. Mark thanks for letting a ‘different’ perspective be aired on BG.

    It’s hard for us ‘outsiders’ to understand what it’s like to be in a situation where you are having to fight every day for your state to exist. Like another poster mentioned, i’m confused about the separation of being a Jew and religion. You say you are not religious, but don’t Jews place great emphasis on their religion? or is that just another media hype?

    I would be really interested to know what daily life is like for you Ori, perhaps you can do a ‘day in the life of’ maybe it will open our eyes to a less bias attitude towards you and your people.

    • Hi again :)

      about the religion thing.
      jews are a nation – you dont have to believe anything, though there are many traditions.. its like christans celebrating christmas, we celebrate Hanuka :)

      I think about 80% of israel believes god, but for most of them it doesnt mean anything and dont effect their regular lives, they might go to the Synagogue once a week, if at all.

      We also have alot of influence from the US, I find myself watching mostly american shows, like how i met your mother, south park, dexter (wich suites this site better lol)… and on and on.

      About my normal day – well when we are not at war, my day is pretty normal.. i tried to write it down but its kinda boring lol, is there something specific you wanna know?

      basiclly each israeli man have to inlist to the army for 3 years, girls do 2 years if they are not fighters.

      Im currently 5 years in the army, and have one year left. but im getting paid now so its like a job.

      I can also add that you must be a strong person to hear the news every evening, there are so many things you can worry about around here… it can be the “little” things like rockets from gaza… it can be the big things .. like iran is another step towards Nukes and another Israel Extention speech was made by ahmadinijad… thats a daily thing around..

      I basiclly try not to worry too much and watch comedy shows insted of the news :)

      • Hi Ori, thanks for responding :)

        I though concripting people into the armed services went out long ago, but I can understand why it’s needed in a state like Israel. Having said that, it’s a shame that you are not getting the choice – but if you did, i’m sure that most of you would join up anyway because of the way you feel about your state and for it to survive.

        I must admit i’ve become quite fascinated with this post and Israel in general. I think that’s because i’m hearing about it from the horses mouth so to speak so it’s adding a complety new and different perspect for me as apposed to what the media dishes out.

        I don’t think your life could be boring even if you tried! There’s so much going on around you, but for all the wrong reasons. Do you ever get the chance to have some serious fun?

        I just heard about the cease fire with Hammas, but it’s the usual crap that’s fed to us. So I would really like to hear about it from your perspective :)

        • Hey, youre sweet, i really want to thank you for your honest curiosity.

          We’ll i get to have serious fun, when i go to party’s on the weekend, and vications. I’ve been to thailand lately and had the time of my life :).

          the cease fire is a dissapointment to most israelis. we know hamas will soon start shooting again. since the “cease fire” started hamas shot 13 rockets to our cities…

          Sadly, in my opinion, we dont have a real partner to negotiate with.

  11. While i liked reading your post, i have a feeling you are not understanding why we have a distrust and hate against jews.
    Its not that every jew is bad, or hatefull, Just that the ones that are hold a lot more power than any single man or group should. We are talking bankers,IMF, politicians, Most corporations, Military officials and higher ups,religious leaders. Those are the problems, its not you, its not the 3.5 milions that are under attack. Its the 1000s puppeteers that hold the strings.

    Its the ones that chose to create a land in a place that wasn’t theirs and pushed hard to create it. The situation is hard for you because you(as a group) inhabit a land that wasn’t jewish to begin with. Thats why “the terrorists” are attacking you. Thats why Israel is under pressure, Thats why if Israel puts down their weapons, Israel will be gone. But that is also true for the palestinians If they put their weapons down, you will overtake them, and will take more than what you currently have.
    Because THEY are never satisfied, THEY will not stop.

    The ones we hate are your leaders, not you. You are trained to believe Israel is your land. Why do you think you, or your children can’t be trained to believe that Asia is yours? The world is yours? Why do you think you wont be, in the future?

    • Hello, I thank you for your respectful comment, I really appreciate that.

      Well, in my point of view, there are many strong successful men around… they are not always jewish. I think we can be mad at them as well. but i guess your point is that there are many jewish people compared to the size of the population.

      Its kinda hard for me to explain, I think the jewish mentality aboard is very strict for succsess, jewish people work hard and gain high positions. Now like there are many successful people that are jewish and pro israel, there are alot that against it. maybe there is too much thinking about who is jewish?
      I guess you say it matters because they push us into a land which is not ours.

      I wanna say again. before we had Israel we had nothing. no land was ours. and I strongly believe my people deserve a country, I have relatives that survived the holocust, i believe in all my heart it happend, i believe it so strongly i wont even argue about it. even if you scale the stories by 99% those are super horrible things that happend.

      We deserve a country, that will belong to us in which we can live peacfully. Israel has the most historic roots to our people so the zionist tried to buy lands there.
      The day the UN decleard two states in Israel the arabs in israel and around it started a war. they lost and as a consquence, we got more space than was origanlly planned, and bought. after that, the arabs still want it all…claming ts all theirs.. well thats unacceptible anymore.

      let me ask you, the zionists bought many private lands from the arabs, if the arabs change their minds one day and want it all to themself, is it their land to have? I think not. Israel was decieded to rise where it is. We bought landls legaly, and didnt start a war.

      Is asia mine? no, is the world mine? no.
      Israel is mine. i would share it with people who wants true peace and not hamas.

      I think that in the way you interpret things no state could ever rise. cause every land belong to someone.

      waiting anxiously for your replay :)

  12. Trying to understand one another should be a two way street. I sense a one sided “you need to try to understand the Jews” argument here. How about “try to understand us, and we need to try to understand you too” instead? As far as I know, the attack on RIP Ahmed Al-Jabari was the IDF breaking the truce and attacking first. Subsequent shelling by the Hamas was in retaliation to this open act of terrorism, not vice versa.

    There is a reason why so many people don’t like the Jews. They did not just wake up one day and decided they will hate the Jews. They see what Zionists are doing and feeling of hate is a natural response to it. Jews need to start to see why and admit that it’s well deserved.

    To me, this post only confirmed that Jews really do like to play victims but refuse to look in the mirror to see the monster that they are. I respect your right for feeling the way you do, but you also need to give what you expect and best yet, stop taking what you don’t want to be taken off you.

    • You are being lied… we didnt start it.
      We dont got to operations for nothing. MY OWN CITY GOT DOZENS OF ROCKETS HITS BEFORE “we broke the truce”!

      and it wasnt one day thing! we are use to some rockets every few days! it just got so bad, we warned them! and it got worst again! and then came the assination.

      it upsets me so much, I dunnu who is your source… but check your sources!
      and stop criticing so badly without checking the facts! and those are facts!

  13. I don’t want to sound mean but he has a very sheepish view of reality. He can not have been exposed to what we have come to understand as the Jewish cancer.
    He speaks well.
    Does he know the word propaganda ?
    He asks that the world lose their prejudiced view of him.. Can we get him to see his own race without the propagandized view I fear he has?

  14. Jew have killed the prophet(we call him that way) but most of you im sure call him son of god, so how the F did that race diservse to live ? nuke them all, i garantee you those ppl will be suporting antichrist at the end of the World.

    • You are mistaken…..the christians will embrace the 3rd anti-christ before anyone else,they are so mesmerized by “revival” and the “2nd coming of christ” that they are blind to all else.

  15. it’s certainly NOT THE jewish perspective

    it’s A jewish perspective

    there is no such thing as “The jewish perspective”

    just a bunch of people with many differing perspectives

  16. Lies, Lies! the satanic jew snake seeks to deceive you with his forked tongue. Aladeen and the people of Wadiya side with our brothers in Palistine. soon we shall rise to drive a stake thru the heart of the jewish bastards and send them back to hell from whence they came. ALAHU AKBAR ALADEEN MOTHERFUKERS!

      • you piece of shit you are the aggressors taking what is not yours … no country is yours .. and he didnt say he wanted to take israel he said he want you scum out of palestine.. but you went right on to that israel is your/jews country .. thats the problem

        • Fuck of Dralie, what would you do if some idiots wanted to destroy your house, behead your parents and rape your children? But l guess you only enjoy talking shit there sitting in your comfty chair, while the only thing you worry about is who is going to win the the superbowl . Jews, now they live in lsrael, just leave those assholes alone, the problem is those muslims who want to kill, rape, rob everybody . Why the hell do they want to get that territory back? Probably to make it another shithole where its inhabitants behead children, hit women, and train more fucking terrorists? Fuck that, at least these greedy idiots have made of that graveyard a nation. Zionist you say? You have to be kidding me, seriously if you didnt complain that much about beaners who steal your nasty jobs which nobody wants to perform, or those highly paid jobs taken by smarter accountants and bankers whom supposedly now rule the world, and started once for all doing whatever it takes to recover at least some of that honor you lost time ago, then with your hard work and courage , could return to be the great nation that was once admired and respected by everybody. Unfortunately, US now seems to be the great bully, invading countries when they run out of oil, or gold.

          • what are you talking about dumbass i live in a country infested by muslims i hate them the same as fucking jews .. you talk about honor and stuff when the jews are the ones napalm bumping kids killing inocents taking there land .. now if some1 napalm bombed me or where i live i would think i was in the right to throw back some rockets.. if i had some.. but the thing that makes me hate jews more everyday is they always put themselves in the victim role when it rarely fits if it was up to me destroy and kill both lands couldnt care less but when the jews keep stating we are the victim makes me fucking sick to my stomach.. its like when a black man gets pulled over for broken tail light or what not the first thing he says to the officer its cos im black right?
            fuck no you did something wrong.. fucking own up to it u fuck

  17. Mark, I think maybe you should ask him about the Lavon Affair, that failed israeli false flag operation, that intended to blow up american embassies and put the blame on Egypt.

    Maybe he should also talk about the israeli attack on the USS Liberty, an american ship sailing in international waters, that was attacked by the Israeli Air Force, with the intention of sinking it and putting the blame on the Arabs.
    I’m sorry, but after all they have done, I simply can’t trust the jews.

    • Hey, im not very pro conspericies person, im open to find out more… i understood the next open post is about that.

      I would like to listen and make my comment then.

    • ohhhhh i i heard of the liberty! i was mistakenly thinking you are talking of the Carrier of WW2 that fought the japanese.

      Well this is my opinion of the subject:
      It was a mistake made during the six days war.

      Israel and America official statement says that america was asked if there are any ships around israel while liberty was on its way. america said no. and the liberty was falsely identified as an enemy.

      I think that during war mistakes like that are more likely to happen… but it was a bad one… when i first read about it a few years ago i felt really bad about it, I love the USA. and i cant believe it happend intentionlly. though i know there are some conspiracies of this incident. :( No blame was put on the arabs… israel took the blame and was sorry for it.

  18. Of course, not all Jews are bad, just the majority of them. There are Good Jews and Bad Jews. Goods Jews like David Cole & Noam Chomsky & Brother Nathanael. But can the whole lot of good Jews make up for one of their brothers at the head of the media or MTV or AIPAC?

    Just like every other race, every Jew will have to pay for the sin of his Race. Just like Blacks, Whites, Mestizo, Asians, Muslim etc… will all have to pay for the crimes of their race.
    When the Blacks in Rhodesia or SouthAfrica were going around murdering and raping Whites, did the Blacks take into consideration whether the White they were beating was a ‘good’ White, or a ‘Bad’ white?
    Did the Jews try to sort the Whites who fought for them during WWII from the Whites who were trying to get rid of them? Or did the Jews just decided to get rid of ALL whites from around global in the UK, Europe, America, Australia, Rhodesia, etc.

    Our race our Skin is our uniform… Just like during a War, you don’t take into consideration whether or not the individual you are killing is a good person or bad person… his uniform give us the right to fire upon him without further judgementl…

    As discussed on Bestgore many times in the past. There are good Blacks, and Bad Niggers. While many people uses this discrimination, I do not, and I lump them all into one group. Because Good Blacks can still breed Bad Niggers… meaning, don’t look at the individual and see if he is bad or good, but look at his Tribe his race, and how as a group they effects our nation and people.

  19. Everybody needs to chill the fuck out. After all we’ve seen and learned from this site we should all be aware that we’re all a little crazy regardless of whether you’re a Jew, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, atheist etc… The Muslims have their extremists, cutting heads and stoning in the name of god, and Christians have their extremists in North America as well doing some pretty illogical stuff also in the name of god; it doesn’t mean they’re all like that, but for some reason it’s these hand full of crazies that evoke the image that we, the viewers, take in, process and then formulate generalizations and stereotypes that we bestow to that entire race, or religion.

    Just because Nazis were German doesn’t that all Germans were, or are Nazis. I’m sure that there are many, many Palestinians that don’t give a flying fuck that the Jews have taken up some of their land to make a home for themselves. But of course there’s that handful of crazies that don’t seem to understand that it’s just a stupid piece of land: A piece of land that won’t even exist in a few hundred million years. And these handfuls of morons think that it’s a good idea to launch rockets and kill people for their ideals. And of courser we will generalize and say that all Palestinians are evil when in fact it’s only minority that cause all he suffering trouble. It’s just a piece of land. How much better and much richer will you be with it?

    It would be a different story of course if the Jew wanted to invade Palestine and take over all of their land. And even in that case, it wouldn’t all Jews, but just a handful crazies that just happen to be in a position of power who will subject their people to suffering and misery and persecution by the world just to get what they selfishly want. And we will generalize and say that all Jews are bad and evil, when in fact it would only be a handful of stupid people that are projecting an everlasting, false representation of their people to the world.

    So just chill the fuck out and enjoy life and stop throwing rockets and bombs and insults at each other for something that doesn’t mean shit in the long run.

    Am I making any sense? Well if I’m not it’s because it’s late and I’m tired .

    • Didn’t they think it was Egyptian? Anyhow, you are talking about a big mistake made by a small group of people. You say “they” as if the whole country plotted an attack. I don’t care who did what honestly, just think your reasoning is fuckin dumb and had to point that out. Goodnight fuckers.

        • the whole of the world in some cases is directed as the world they live in. IE their surroundings…. Egypt(who hate Israelies) The ocean, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon…. etc… it is the same claim that the whites are making of the other races over in the western hemisphere… except our neighbors aren’t nearly as hostile…

  20. I am glad, that the member got his chance to protect his voice and opinion. I first saw him on the last open post about satanic jews. Thanks for sharing your words, and hope you stay safe in your shelter.

  21. Thank-You MARK for this very informative, open minded discussion with our JEWISH , Best-Gore followers. Maybe , just maybe, this could be the start of some much needed open ( no bullshit) straight talk. Something in my view that their governments have been lacking in order to at least try and resolve this conflict. :)

  22. Your trying to play on our feelings toward zionisim not to present a logical facts and events that could reveal the unltimate demon truth of zionisim and israel. Just like holocaust its been a while and ppl still feeling sympathy with the jews like no other nation had been terrorized n killed ever than. Horoshima ana nakazaki victims, WTC victims, palastinian victims, lebanese victims etc…. All these victims did not got enough sympthy like z jews did bk from WWII. Enough lying about about ppl that zionisim and israel is a peacful organization trying to defend its civilization.

    • First off, the “Palestinians” aren’t really a nation nor do they have a history, so they’re simply Arabs who came from Iraq, turkey, Syria, Egypt and such. [a mix of all of them, they came here around 1870 or so.]

      Second, Jews bought land, the UN voted yes, The state of Israel, Arabs attacking, Israeli defending itsself, again and again and again, terror organization within Gaza rize, send suicide bombers and use Grad missiles and mortars, blockade, Israel defending itsself, Terror organizations which keep attacking civilians in Gaza and Israeli citizens, Israel defending itsself and on and on and on.

      Your so-called “Palestinians” use their shitty propoganda to get the world to hate Israel, wether its lying about stuff or faking pictures.

      Bet you’re one of those morons who were affected by the “The protocols of the elders of zion” even if you haven’t read the book, some of its shit is used in Arab countries, now, I bet you have never been to Israel and seen what its like to live here, and I’m pretty sure you haven’t visited Gaza while the Hamas was on a rampage against the civilians who live there/Israel citizens.

      So please my friend, get your head out of your ass.

      • Jews bought land !!! How can ppl buy a whole land!! Where the hell your info come from ?!? FYI israelis are jewish people that came from all over the world to what they beleive is their promise land… They didnt bought it, they invade it… Buying is when you pay money for somethng you take, invading is when you eleminate a whole nation or population by war and take over…. Finally, the only thing that jews bought wasnt palastine land, it was the united fuckin nation itself .

        • I haven’t said they bought the WHOLE land.
          People stopped believing in that bullshit.. T_T
          some of the lands were infact bought, UN voted and there you go, the state of Israel, they got attacked over and over again and Israel pushed the lines back, you guys tried to attack, now you have eat what you cooked and you lost lands.
          There was no nation or massive population in there, just a few Arab villiages and most of them are still there today.
          Your people tried to attack over and over again and they kept getting their ass kicked, that’s why you guys keep on bitching about the JEws being evil and such, grow the fuck up.

  23. Man, this Ori does not even believe in God.

    You, me, mark, ower of BG, Jew, Christian, all of us have one, the same Creator. You may call the Creator Allah, God, Yahweh etc..but one thing for sure is that, if you ponder deep enough, you will come to the conclusion we all have the same Creator, only ONE GOD. We all have the same internal organ, same sun, same moon, same planetary system, shall we have many different Creator(s), then these Creators will argue and put their best creations to compete.

    One thing sure is that we all will die. Period.
    One thing sure is we all will be resurrected after we die, then on the day of judgement our Creator will settle the disputes between us (Muslim, Christian, Jew, Atheist) and punish who the true criminals and decide who is the right one.
    You wait for the judgement day, and we wait it as well.

    • It’s just natural human character when they come to this world, but mainly led by demon whisper and teasing, when human lust and greed wins over logic. Changing and twisting original verses of prophecy given to them to justify their need to be the ruler of the world, killing other human beings and other acts of deviance . That is why the concept of God or creator don’t fit for them because it’s contradict their contaminated way of thinking, they only live in this world to quench their thirst of lust, bringing damage to the earth. Btw where’s indro man.

  24. THIS POST IS INTENDED FOR WHITE AMERICANS saying “Jews are terrorist” and “Get out of their land”
    Ok,

    I have been reading the gabble on here, I can say there are a wider variety of people being represented here except for Muslims. Don’t see any here or even trying to gain support, most blindly support Islam while the Muslims laud at the fact that they don’t want your belief in them, they want help getting their enemies out and as soon they finished with one enemy we become the enemy. And one man tries to reach you and WHITE PEOPLE claim Jew’s are our misfortune. I saw the video, i don’t see or hear, anything other that a white racist trying to reach his white racist people. Let me break it down for you WHITE Americans so you can STOP thinking your hands are clean.

    -Indians asked for the Europeans to leave, They didn’t , they kept expanding to where now in America. (Don’t give me that crap that they have it good now, they don’t have it as good as they did then, and still have no chance to expand)

    -You call Israel terrorists for killing civilians, Well our drones, do worse. Don’t see you bitching about that

    -In the video about “Satanic Jews”, yes they did invent atomic energy, the American scientist didn’t know Cosine from Sine to save their asses, and the Jew are blamed?? WRONG!!
    *Blonde blue haired eyed boys. all American, national bred, dropped 2 bombs and only 2 and killed over 1250,000 Japanese. On the order of other white americans!!” Not Jews
    —“ooo we were provoked with Pearl Harbor!!” Pearl Harbor is a military structure with obvious strategic and valuable placement assets…..Hiroshima and Nagasaki were civilian targets.

    Who do you white people think you are? You have forgotten the blood on your hands and it makes you look stupid when you applaud for peace. The white race is the only race i see now a days trying to claim they are being systematically erased. So stupid, your representation in the Government is most above any race, the richest people in America, are white people. White control the oil, government, and military and you are still complaining? What an infantile way to view yourselves. Pathetic!!

    Whites are the problem, they don’t just fuck over races that don’t belong, they equally fuck everyone and the lower whites blame the minorities. LOL they rich whites get richer, the poor whites get poorer and blame in on the negroes and jews and hispanics, Anyone but themselves!!!

    • So are you saying if I am an individual other than a white American that I am right Jews are terrorists and they need to get out of their land?

      How do you know that all of these posts are from a WHITE AMERICAN, let alone WHITE PEOPLE? What the fuck is a white person anyway? Did our creator just decide, hey fuck I’m going to make a white human, just a white chalky colored human! Don’t we call blacks blacks but yet don’t their ancestors come from Africa?

      You’re missing the big picture of how some members believe the Jews are behind many things and that can include the education/information you were TRAINED TO BELIEVE. How the fuck are your drones worse? How the fuck would you know the Jews aren’t to blame when we are fed by the same upper hand? Whether you’re in Antarctica and I’m in Brazil, it doesn’t fucking matter. You can’t just rewind a couple centuries of time and pick 1, 2, 3 events of your choice and say it’s all good this is how WHITE PPL are the problem. NO wait, this is how WHITE AMERICANS are the problem!

      All human history have blood on their hands. That’s what we’re here for. We fucking thirst and crave the power to kill. We are meant to kill and we will continue to kill. Why the fuck do you think you’re here, on this site, looking at BEST GORE, provided to you by Mark, a fucking Canadian! NO wait, a fucking WHITE CANADIAN!

      One of probably a gazillion reasons why you believe the WHITE AMERICAN is behind all of this shit is because you’re still wearing your rose-colored glasses. You need to take a step back, be open minded and read several books that hasn’t been touched by the almighty “WHITE AMERICAN”.

      To add, the reason why you’re probably living a shitty life and probably living your life blaming your bad days on a WHITE AMERICAN is because of your weak mentality of , Oh i’m a victim, blah blah blah. FOR the record, I’M NOT A WHITE AMERICAN!

  25. Lol at the hate comments.
    Is Isreal wrong for bombing the shit out of the Palestinians. No. Hamas needs to quit the rocket attacks, youd think after 10+ yrs of launching unguided missiles at isreal then getting bombed the fuck back by isreal wpuld make them choose another path.
    Is the world/countries who recognize a Jewish state right? Yes and no. yes recognition for a free country, no for claiming it a Jewish state. How the fuck can you call isreal a free country yet support it being called a Jewish state.
    Now the holocaust. Did it happen. Yes was it exaggerated and used as a scapegoat to further allied gains. Yes.
    As far as zionists being satanic haters, whhat about the Syrians who have shelled civilian locations like isreal has and is doing? Are those muslims satanic dueschebags to? Do thry not deserve to die for oppressing innocents? What about the suicide bombers, ied planters etc in Iraq and Afghanistan. Are they innocent to? Look every country, religion etc has its faults,.that does not mean everyone in that country or religion is bad. 98% id say are sheep. The 2% or so that are filled with greed, power, etc wants are the ones to blame. But being humans its easier to blame others instead of looking at the real problem. Leadership of our countries involved in conflixts and the big businesses,lobbyists, banks etc that overt thier influences for personal gain.

  26. Are to blame. isreal and Hamas will never be at a 100% peace because niether sides hardline extremists will ever agree on getting along. Sorry for dbl post had internet issues

  27. Wow. That was lot of commentary! Have to admit, I stopped reading after a LONG while. If anybody is still reading this thread, I’d just like to suggest that if Barney and his ilk want to convince anybody that they’re the victims here (I mean, really: hiding terrified in a bomb shelter when the Palestinians have lost a hundred plus civilians and Israelis three? Cut the shit, please) then Israel needs to stop building settlements in occupied land, dismantle the existing ones and return the Golan Heights. That would be a start right there.

  28. Dear Ori, Mark and entire BG Comunity (actually not entire, only the ones who can at least take on an intelecutal challenge from time to time). My name is Kamil, and I’m Polish, as some may call me Poll. First, I want to thank Mark to create such space as i see it as an opportunity to bring on the meritorical discussion and I think the websites lacks it a little, so I carefully read Ori’s post. Your name’s great – my dog was called Ori as well. He died 4 years ago, very brave and strong boxer, much loved member of my family. Somehow, when I read first line about your name, it reminded me about my dear friend whom I grew up with. Now, I’m writing from Egypt, as I travel around the world because of my work as a tour operator representative, been in Israel as well. I’ve been here in Egypt for a while now and abviously political situation of the region I’m residing in is very close interest of mine as I’m curious man. Egyptians usually say (and not the ones from lower class that only know how to pray to Allah but can’t even read Quaran) that Israelis are people of exaggeration, in the meanning of extreme sensitivity on their history, identity and any sort of signals from the world, such as jokes about jews, or telling history from different point of view than Israeli’s are meeting almost immediate response and call for explanation/apologies eventually on the diplomatic level. Now, my point of view is quite similar, as I come from the country that many Israelis found a shelter during WW II and also many died in Auschwitz. I know it’s a big issue and complicated that We probably would spend years to make each other fully understand every aspect, but please tell me, why are Israeli people are seen by many as those, who are. pardon me for saying, “oversensitive” on their own identity, history and stuff? I mean, from my observations, (i know it’s hard nowadays to make an opinion on anything by receiving media streams that are full of lies), i consider Israeli nation as really people who do not have much distance to themselves, who always suspect something that is against them everywhere. I know I cannot provide you with a full evidences right now as I try to make it as short as possible and have not much time at the moment, but I only want to know if You agree what I said here or not, and want to ask You for your point of view if I’m to be corrected.

    • Hey, I feel like i failed to completely understand your question , i didnt sleep for like 26 hours now. so i guess ill try again later. if you can somehow phraze it easier without it losing its meaning it probably will help (sorry :/)

  29. I never believed that Satanic-Jews-want- to- rule- the- world crap,as I can think for myself and to me is clear Israel exists due to rightful historical claims.Most people have mentality of the herd and will also believe what they want to believe,and Jews were always a convenient scape goat cause they were defensless,but now the things are changed and they are hated more than ever.It is interesting how people like Mark never met a Jew,but still have a strong opinion about them,and I think that most people who hate them,actually don´t know anything about them.Jews are all about letting others to be and being humble,which is what Judaism stands for.Muslims,on the other hand,tend to impose their beliefs and norms on others(just ask Brits about no-go areas for kuffars)as tolerance for non-Muslims is a non-existant word in their language.Anyway,I really do hope the Arabs will smarten up a bit,and find someone less radical to lead them or their suffer(Israelis have casualties too, but Arabs get the shittier end of the stick) will continue.But I wouldn´t bet on that(sorry, had to add that).

  30. I care nothing for the “Jewish perspective.’ None of your arguments is convincing in the least, since the truth is that Zionists invaded Palestine, systematically killed the inhabitants of cities, towns and villages, moved in and renamed everything. Over 700,000 people were forced to flee from their birthplace and never allowed to return (contrast that with Jews born anywhere but Palestine who have the ‘right of return’).

    Armed resistance is the only effective solution to ‘Israel’s’ predations, as demonstrated by Hezbollah, who not only reversed the invasion of Lebanon in 2000, but stopped the dream of a ‘Greater Israel’ dead in its tracks in 2006. Operation Cast Lead in 2009 wasn’t a spectacular success for the ‘Israelis’ and no doubt the current attacks on Gaza will also end in disappointment. The resistance has surprised you with its capabilities once again, hasn’t it? Hezbollah can fly a drone over you any time it wants with impunity, Palestinian rockets can now reach all the way to Tel Aviv, now Gazans can shoot your drones and F-16s out of the sky (1 pilot missing, lol) and your Iron Dome doesn’t work as advertised.

    ‘Israel’ is losing allies day by day, and the United States is more than exhausted from fighting wars on it’s behalf. What do you think is going to happen when precious ‘Israel’ is left all alone?

  31. Hi, I hope you get to read my comment.
    I believe you are still biased towards defending your people. You being a good, caring and open minded person does not make all the nasty shit your people do go away; you do not define your kind, just as your kind does not define you.
    I believe you are uselessly trying to change our minds into believing jews are victims defending themselves from terrorrists (who as far as I know, correct me if I´m wrong, have much less resources, and have much more poor people).
    You say that if palestinians put down their weapons there would be peace, and I think most will agree that´s a lie: if they put down their weapons they would simply be wiped out. What happened to the natives of all north, central and south America in collonial times for example? Most were wiped out and the remaining live in extreme poverty.
    Jews are not good and there are many displays of that throughout the years. Don´t take it personal, you might be the coolest guy in the world, but that doesn´t make the rest of the jews not shitheads (the evil, racist ones).
    Shit jews exist, I have witnessed it myself (even here in Mexico): I have spoken to mexico resident jews (worked for Iusacell) and most were very elitist, lazy, stupid and discriminating people, with very large busineses not earned, but inherited or made bigger and bigger by outsourcing employees and exploiting poor people (here there is a big trend of creating outsourced janitor companies, which employ the elder for super minnimum wages for example)
    And the other way around as well, your people doing evil and nasty shit does not make you an asshole.
    What I mean is that is pointless that you try to deny facts and justify your people´s wrongdoings just because you are a good person.
    Take me for example (although not as extreme): I am mexican born and raised and I see all over the internet the image the world has of mexicans, being drunk, stupid, ignorant, fat and beheading each other on every corner, and you know what? It IS true; my country is 90% fucking shithead, coward and corrupt morons :)
    But you don´t see me making blogs whining about it, since My kind does not define me as I do not define my kind. I just work for myself, I defend and pursue MY own integrity.
    It is pointless to try to speak for more people other than yourself; the world is fucking built of lies and blood anyway.

      • My only hope is that you built up enough pressure from laughing in your stomach that you blew your head back out your ass to see the light of day…. sadly i doubt it :(

        • well after your view on that white´s are the devil .. then ill turn it into the human male is the devil as we are the ones relied on in wars and every other fucked up stuff mostly males does these sick stuff … i can say that with no problem and i am male … then go further to how i feel the fucking human kind is the devil destroying the earth for what freaking money. and power over soon destroyed planet..

        • another thing is the countrys with black populations wich is poor countrys right they get fucking help from the part of the world where the donators is mainly white now when the money gets down there the powerfull blacks takes the fucking money puts in there own pockets so right now its blacks taking advantage of blacks now put that in your pipe and smoke get clearminded and smell the facts

          • why are you mad that whites give money to blacks? oh, right… because your own race doesn’t care about you since they largely already profit from your taxes… i see you posting, youre making no sense at all… blame your white compatriots

    • I’m sorry, but i only partly agree with you.
      Every nation have its bad and good people.
      I can stand up for my country and my belief.
      In order to do that i had to break the image that was built of jews using me as an example. im not a representation to all, nor intended to be.

      the palestinians can put down their weapons and live freely.
      Israel will protect them and embrace them like the Druze and the Beduins or any other minorities living in it.

      is it easier to be a palestinian? I didnt say that. Thier hamas goverment makes them suffer. they are more poor… thats true, I never said diffrent.
      But the fact they have a worst life than us doesnt justify what they do(Hamas and jihad mostly…).

      You know what could help them?
      Taking a little bit more time and resources for building themselves other than trying to destroy us.

      When hamas will love their childern more than they hate us, the will be in another position completely.

      thank you for your opinion, waitng for your response :)

  32. Being Jewish is a race as well as a religion. But not all that are Jewish are of the Jewish ‘race’. It has mostly to do with lineage instead of perceived skin color.

    As far as Isreal, Palestine, Jordan, and the rest of the Middle East, they have been at war for thousands of years before we came along. It isn’t going to change whether NATO interferes or not.

    People like to pick at a group because they don’t want to think about themselves and their place in society. Haters are going to hate whether we approve or not. Thank you for speaking up, Ori. I look forward to more of your insight. Its easy to judge when someone doesn’t have the daily reality of being bombed day in and day out. I keep hoping for a cease fire with better diplomacy.

  33. Very interesting post. although it’s very hard to support Israeli’s I can see what’s causing them trouble, I tend to be very unbiased, but it really is difficult to support the Israelis as they have caused much trouble. I was searching up WW2 and something interesting came up that caught my mind, it is said that the Jews where taken advantage of and manipulated by Greedy leaders and their main leadership stayed in Germany, the “Good” Jews, with the holocaust the survivors where in extreme shock and would never allow this to happen, this combined with a greedy leadership mostly interested in it’s self made them easy to manipulate.

    Another interesting thing is that Israel is on of the reasons why so many Islamist pick up arms around the world, it just puts hate in their hearts and also allows them to be manipulated as well, of course not all Resistance groups are this way, many are legit, like Hamas or Hezbollah, who where formed in order to defend themselves from the Israeli’s, even thou they themselves are just pawns in the big game of chess, the Israeli’s also seem like pawns, and the main greedy leaders seem to be in America. (Why would they live in such a hostile land, they don’t care if Israel is for the chosen people or not) This makes me believe Israel is being used as a source of hate, to piss off everyone around them, and keep everyone fighting each other and keep the region in chaos while the greedy leader in America make pipeline deals and keep the heat of the main oil producers to keep the oil coming. Everything is crazy in the middle east, everyone fighting each other, and as long as you don’t fuck with U.S interests you will be left alone it seems.

    Here are the players to the chess game, I’ll just type this cause it’s very interesting.

    U.S/Israel are the biggest allies in the middle-east, it is said many times that Israel controls the U.S, but then again like I said before, the U.S LEADERSHIP might be the ones are actually controlling Israel, the “Dumber” Jews. While trying to keep them fat and happy, armed to the teeth with money coming from the walking money bags. (Americans, lol)

    Another player, that is being hammered to hell at the moment is of course Iran and it’s allies. (Syria, Lebanon, and the Shia Muslims) Also the Iraqi’s seem to be getting very friendly with Iran, pretty funny since the U.S just finished fighting there and making a mess, just so Iraq can ally with it’s enemy, Iran. (Oh god, this is funny isn’t it)

    Here’s how it goes, Syria, Irans biggest ally is being hit very hard, Turkey being the biggest player, not sure why, maybe trying to get in good with the U.N/U.S or some other reasons. Is Training/Arming and Funding rebel groups, and then of course you got your Saudis (I’ll talk more about them later) Qatar, and other middle-eastern countries throwing barrels of oil into the fire, not just small quantities of gar. Same with U.K/France and others funding the rebels, they have even said this publicly. Surprisingly Assad’s Syrian meat grinder has lasted a long time, many have suggest that Assad might actually have a chance of winning. I on the other hand do hope they win (I’ll tell you why in a bit) but there is so much they can do against the hordes of cannon fodder rebels that have unlimited support. And when the U.S/Israel wants you gone, you sure as hell will be EXTERMINATED, but who knows, this dude might make it.

    Why do I support Syria, and while we are at it, big poppa Iran and Lebanon? because the balance of power will get fucked in the middle east and the only players left will be the U.S allies, the Saudis, and Israel. Maybe even Egypt if they are doing what I think their doing.

    The Muslim brother hood is very powerful it seems, I didn’t even know about the group until I read about about the Arab revolution, where they got Egypt for themselves, Hamas was a branch of this party too, AND Syria’s main party is part of the Muslim Brotherhood, Assad himself said that Turkey wants to make a Caliphate, or could be just be Egypt if Turkey actually has nothing to do with this.

    And last but not least, the Saudi’s, I think you can call this people “Greedy Leaders” as well, just not as sneaky and or strong as America’s greedy leaders. The Saudi’s, while they might seem more calm compared to the others, are actually pretty strong themselves, and have formed many alliance with smaller Oil producing countries with their own little greedy leaders, which are Bahrain/Kuwait/Qatar/Oman/United Arab Emirates. And have been know to fund Al-Quada groups, and others like the Rebel factions in Syria. This guys, like Israel and the U.S, which makes them out to be good allies, also hate Iran, Unlike Iran who has the Shia’s on it’s side, the Saudi’s have Sunni’s Muslims on their side. (Mostly anyways, could be wrong) and Iran being a powerhouse in the middle-east poses a threat to the Saudi’s, are recent event you can see is Bahrain, while having a Sunni king controlling a Shia majority, the people of Bahrain where somewhat neglected, and starting protesting in mass. While being somewhat supported by Iran, and some seeing Iran as an able leader for them, the Saudi’s and allies would have to brutally crush them, making them an example for anyone in their own lands who would want to join the Arab spring. (And it worked, apart from some rioting in the east, where most of the oil is located at heh.)

    Anyways, as you can see, the middle east is a cluster fuck, and Syria at the moment is the main point where all this fuck is being relocated at. (Who would have thought poor Syrian kids getting their head blown the fuck off would end up being a normal thing, shit)

    Sorry for going way off topic, but the middle east is very interesting at the moment, also the Kurds, the damn Kurds might even have a chance of making their own country, having to cut a chunk out of Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Turkey, hahahah.

  34. * Before you read, remember this I hate everyone equally!

    History before WW2 surrounding JEWs had more evidence then ever!
    Just like any during the Holy wars the Jewish armies slaughtered millions! just as they do today. As time grew on the Jews became more and more political and when religion mixes with politics thus begins the insidious lie. Say what you will, how your religion or ancestors are clean of the blood spilt but look around you,…the signs are everywhere. After WW2 and Jews in political power around the world the greatest lie begun. Those who blame Hitler should be smacked with an iron glove for hating Jews. Behind every dictator there are what are known as ‘jugglers’ the people who pull the strings, call the shots and when shit hits the fan let their poster boy or dictator take the fall, thus being able to move on and pull more strings and call the shots undetected elsewhere. The Holocaust is strongly exaggerated! In the jews eyes they want us to cry them a river, but what is not said and rarely found or taught in schools is that millions were slaughtered by jews, even Russians and for the worst part even their own during WW2. Its easy to divert people from the truth, simply divert the attention elsewhere and that is what happened and continues until history is written properly, but like always the winners always re write history as they see fit and deem them worthy in their eyes. Don’t forget the cheap jewish excuse that it would take billions to re publish facts in texts around the world. Which brings me to modern days,… if your using internet shit like wikipedia or other bullshit manifestos to back up your argument then your soo fuckin blind! Like Mark says on bestgore “sheep” but in my eyes the herd has adapted into a fuckin plague, producing more misguided clones in the race for the next holy war. So simple terms – now that Jews are political with both feet in the door all around the world the governing of historical facts are skewed. All it takes is to misguide the young, tolerate the teens and put forward the propaganda machine. I think its time for people to open their eyes, the clues and facts are all around us. I travel the world, I also fight what most dream of doing so to me this is easy to understand. but,… if you do not understand what all I mentioned in this post then you simply need to put down your facebook, stop using wikipedia for your quotes and answers as this world has its truth all around us, take your phone and apps out of your ass and just indulge, only then will clarity come to you.

    The greater the lie, the more people will believe it.
    (enlightenment to live by)

    (=CO’B’RA=) COMMANDER.

    • Hey’ excuse me for basing myself so strongly on wikipedia… I thought it would be a relaible source for most.

      Well, i cant tell you much about the past, I dont know what clues you are basing yourself on… I was at poland… i saw many hidius things… even if the holocuast is really exaggerated (something i dont believe at all). the things that happend were horrible, you are welcome to visit some camps in poland and decide for yourself whats real or not… you can say the building were built after the war ended… but look at all the human parts that there… all the human hair… you can ignore all those facts as well.

      Today’s facts im basing on my life… I dont need internet to see whats going on around me, nor to prove anything to myself. but only my experiences arent enough for most people, so i need to get some “facts” out of the web as well, to show my point.

      again youre welcome to visit israel… you’ll understand whats going on very quickly.

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