For sure spock! those old hags are miserable and give up pussy like nothing trying to keep up with the young thots ( that hoe out there) But with respect, please try to understand that what you seek would put you in the category of a PUA – pick up artist and them and MGTOW are at each others necks. But the PUA’s like Tom Leykis are chock full of the ability to read and understand female psyche and use that to get laid, and boy do they. We MGTOW use a lot of their philosophy but disregard the pussy chasing. We seem like we MGTOW arre a bunch of things but we are not. We are a select few who really put our selve first………just like women do.