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    • #292952
      despy
      Participant

      we never landed on the moon?

    • #293020
      illegalsmile55
      Participant

      I don’t believe it. It’s kind of hard to wrap your head around. I remember watching it on TV as it supposedly happened. My parents calling me in to watch because it was such a moment in time. I was 9 years old, so it was hard driven into my memories and belief system. But I’ve come to believe they did not land on the moon…but not because there’s a dome over the earth. I do believe the space station is up there, along with all the hundreds of satellites.

      • #293050
        GDPR Harvester
        Keymaster

        I was 9 at the time too. Aha! Who was 10 first, madam? @illegalsmile55

        I get why people think we didn’t go but, damn, that’s one hell of a hoax when you consider not far from half a million people were involved. That so many were fooled or stayed silent for so long is hard to accept and it’s probably the main thing that has me unsure still. I agree that a lot of what was supposed to have happened can be called into question but that cover up is massive and hard to get my head around. I’m open to sensible comments about it though.

        • #293058
          lady-lexis
          Participant

          @robc I’m sort of in your camp.
          I’m not a conspiracy theorist in general, I tend to believe things are pretty much as they seem and if it doesn’t affect me or my family, I don’t really care. I’m terminally selfish! But in this case I’m unsure. The thing is, there is a motive as to WHY the US would fake the moon landing at the time, which is somewhat lacking in most other conspiracies. I’d also love to know why we’ve never been back! I can’t imagine we learned everything we needed to know in one visit.

          But like you, the scale of the cover up just tips me the other way. At this stage and after so long, it would have come out. There’s just no reason why it shouldn’t have; who would it damage now? Most of those involved will be retired or dead. It’d make the news for a few weeks and then life would be back to normal. I just don’t see the point now, I suppose.

        • #293416

          One motive would be there was an Arms race on at the time. So the US had to make Russia believe it could hit them anywhere they wanted. What better way than pretending we can walk on the moon ie getting someone to the moon needs top tech ,precision ,organisation ,motivation ,unlimited industrial might etc.

          All could have been a psyops operation.

          We still aren’t sure of Pearl Harbour yet and new info is trickling out all the time.We only found out about the Allies breaking German codes about thirty years ago.

        • #293184
          illegalsmile55
          Participant

          You were 10 first. šŸ˜›

          I guess I should add that I’m not 100% absofuckinglutely sure that we did not land on the moon…I’m just swayed that way. Like a lot of things on the internet, it can be difficult to separate the facts from the fiction.
          When someone told me right after 9/11 that our government was behind it, I thought the guy had lost his mind.
          I was never cruising the internet until maybe six-seven years ago, so a lot of these ideas are new to me. It’s not as if I was some innocent, naive patriot; I just couldn’t fathom my government would slaughter it’s own people like that, or on that scale…I guess. I knew they had murdered people at Ruby Ridge, I knew they had killed people at Waco, I know they’re corrupt and evil…but I didn’t want to believe they could do something on that level. Of course, none of us know anything for sure…but my eyes have been opened to many things. Like the lovely lady lexis, I don’t stress over it, why should I? I can control very few things, so I’m careful where I pick my battles. You can bet your sweet ass that I’m as prepared as you are in case shit hits the fan. Like I said, I’m hitting the ocean, let the land-lubbers fight themselves.It’s a really big ocean, with all kinds of room to spread out and never see another human….besides, who’s gonna come looking for their stolen yacht? They’ll have bigger fish to fry..

        • #293188
          Hamburger Bob
          Participant

          @illegalsmile55
          How about when that lady news reporter was reporting that WTC #7 had just collapsed, but yet it was still standing behind her 😂

          Oh they messed that one up real good!

        • #293198
          lady-lexis
          Participant

          @illegalsmile55 Let’s immediately fight about this, you lunar-landing denier, you! I’m bringing you 100% moon landing FACTS here and you can’t handle the TRUTH! YOU MAD, BRO???

          😂😂😂

        • #293454
          illegalsmile55
          Participant

          You have cognitive dissonance my BG veteran. Hold on though, I’m gonna download 47 YouTube videos to prove it.
          Also, I don’t appreciate the way you’re talking to me, and I’ll now go on a rampage hating you and everyone you’re friendly with. Sounds logical, no?

          @lady-lexis

          Yes, I’m mad bro….mad like a hatter.

        • #293418

          Govs can and are very evil and will sacrifice many of their own people for what THEY say are national ends.

          There is a lot of evidence to say that the US knew Pearl Harbour was coming and still pretended not to know. Why ? They knew only a big kill would Motivate all Americans to fight . You must remember the Kennedies and Bushs were all proNazi and swapped only after Pearl Harbour. Same as 9/11 . The latter was definitely an inside job.

          I’m like you ,hard to accept but too much evidence is trickling out that landing a man on the moon may not have happened.You don’t really have to keep many people in the know at all. Only the astronauts and a few others may have been told.

          Remember ,much of the TV footage came from Australian radio tracking stations etc. So it isn’t hard for the CIA to feed in bullshit video to them and Houston so you see genuine joy on the faces of GRound control personnel.That is what convinced everyday people. My doubts increased a lot when I saw the interview with the astronauts. They were confused,reticent and unprepared,probably because they were the last honest sincere generation of professional gov Americans w etc. That did it for me . Oh,and that idiot who said we have forgotten how to get to the moon. Hahahah

    • #293286
      TheProtocolsOfZion
      Participant

      Moon base.

      moon base

    • #293314
      despy
      Participant

      the only thing that really gives me pause is that awkward interview with the Apollo astronauts and that in the interest of space race we would have real motive to lie and why have we never gone back?

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      • #293463
        illegalsmile55
        Participant

        I looked for these threads last night, but I kept getting time-out pages yesterday and finally gave up. Thanks!!
        Thanks to @crybaby too.

      • #293477

        I have not checked these threads again so there may be information in them that is inconsistent with what I will say below.

        In fact the Van Allen Belts are not deal- breakers.

        They are quite weak at above the 65th parallels on both sides of the Earth’s Magnetic Equator and so the trajectories of the Apollo missions were designed to go through this weaker section. Only Apollo 14 went through the quite strong inner belts.In any case ,the radiation they were exposed to was about the same as a worker gets in the nuclear industry in one year. The astronauts are the most physically fit and risk -taking of all armed forces and were quite happy to take this risk.

        So as can be seen they-mission planners -did their homework well or they have managed to keep every scientist muzzled for years about the truth of Van Allen Belts.

    • #293557
      Lord Wankdust
      Participant

      @illegalsmile55

      I was swithered and swayed and didn’t like to believe I had been duped (even though I was a kid in 69). Then someone realised the actual NASA Hasselblad images were the most damning thing. What was printed in poor quality B&W in a newspaper or in a small colour photo in a Sunday paper back in the late 60s, suddenly was there in the Appollo Archive for all to see on their PCs at home. In hi def. Oh dear… NASA just never saw the Internet coming and have been trying to Brass Neck the shituation out since.

      AS11-40-5922

      Moon Lander

    • #293563
      karmen40
      Participant

    • #293565
      karmen40
      Participant
    • #293568
      Lord Wankdust
      Participant

      They kept getting the scale just slightly wrong with their landers/models/studio shots.

      Apollo

      Apollo

      Check the actual NASA photo albums.

      Apollo 11 album…. seriously folks…

      • #293583

        Wankdust, I have not looked at the album in detail since we last discussed this topic last year. Can you just tell me the gist of it. Where is the scale off ? Yes ,these first two pics do look a little off but one could argue it is just parallax or perspective.

        I’m not a specialist photographer ; so what do you see?


        @lord-wankdust

    • #294110
      Lord Wankdust
      Participant

      @hopingfornemesis Iā€™m not a specialist photographer either. This is a bit like 9-11. You have to actually see it for yourself. Look at those photographs. (indeed look at the photo I posted a few posts above. That gaffer-taped cardboard piece of shit flew 287,000 miles through the vaccuum of space, soft-landed perfectly and then took off again? Horseshit. Look at it! Actually look at it and see it for what it actually is. It is a deception. Those photo were never expected to have been seen in the detail they have been.
      I have flown more airworthy kites as a child. They had more chance of getting to the Moon than that clothes drier!

      Check the ill-fitting panels on this with gaps which would be unable to deal with the vacuum of space let alone the massive temperature differences between direct sun and shade. The expansion and contraction of the metal would have ripped the thing to pieces from the pop-rivets, gaffer-tape and glue which appear to hold it together…

      Lander

      • #294182

        Valid points re the ill-fitting panels and contraction and expansion but maybe that is why they left such large gaps etc. Either way the evidence makes me think it was a con. Sad but true .

        The whole lot of the elites responsible should be shot before a wall, which is why we probably got leaked all the above in dribbles . All the guilty are now doddering or dead !

        @lord-wankdust

    • #294112
      Lord Wankdust
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    • #294230
      despy
      Participant

      all of this will make for great weekend read! looking forward to it,thanks

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