March 28, 2018 at 10:48 am #114164
This is going to be a big one, but it will make you think. The fact that there are huge galaxies out there filled with planets, stars, nebulas and several types of celestial objects should already be obvious… but that’s not the case with some people who believe in a Flat Earth. I say some people because in my researches I’ve found out that amongst Flath-Earthers there are different concepts of what the Flat Earth is like and how it works.
The most basic one is that our planet is round and flat, like a table or a coin, and that Antartica actually is all around the planet in the form of a huge ice wall protecting the world’s edges. The Sun is a lot smaller and a lot closer than we were led to believe and the Moon, which is also closer than we think, both rotate in orbit on the top of our planet. Here’s an example (which was computer generated since all Flat-Earthers do is call every single picture and video of Earth and space fake and photoshopped even though every single picture and video showing the concept of a Flath-Earth and how it works is indeed computer generated, photoshopped and completely fake):
Now there is a more hardcore sect of Flat-Earthers that believe that besides Earth being like the picture above, it is also covered by a celestial glass firmament and that there is nothing on the other side, no outer space. Stars (except the Sun) are not what we were led to believe, they are not solid and they are not light years away from us, they are only sonoluminescence bubbles that are attached (and possibly created) in the glass firmament. All of these planets that we know of actually are these light bubbles, so pictures and videos of planets are fake and the same thing goes for distant stars and every single thing in space. And there’s more: the Moon is not a rock in space, it is actually a hologram. Yes, the Moon is a big hologram made by I don’t know what or who. Here’s this other concept of a Flat Earth (also computer generated of course):
Now we finally arrived in the most important part of this post. I could be here explaining all of the history and evidence of the observation of planets and outer space which dates back to thousand of years, but that won’t do the job. Instead, I’m going to debunk the only thing that comes close to solid photographed and filmed evidence provided by Flat-Earthers and their new favorite
toyweapon – the mighty Nikon P900! Pay close attention to this video:
That is real footage of Venus, it is not altered in any way. Just by looking at it it’s impossible to say that what is shown to us is a planet. It doesn’t look like a planet at all, but it does look like a sonoluminescence bubble. There are other similar videos.
So why is the video above complete bullshit? The answer is simple: light distortion which can be explained by real physics. This camera Nikon P900 is a great camera made to photograph and record TERRESTRIAL OBJECTS , it was not made to capture with high quality and precision CELESTIAL OBJECTS and that’s why there are other types of equipment made to do that, like telescopes. Even a cheap $300 telescope can see Venus or other planets with more precision than the Nikon P900 and the image they reveal to us is indeed of what a planet looks like.
Here are some pictures of Mars, Venus, Jupiter and the Moon made by amateurs using a telescope, not evil NASA employees, amateurs – just like that guy filming Venus with a P900.
Now to FINALLY put the last nail in the coffin, I’m going to show you a video where an amateur photographer, not an evil NASA employee, shows us how to PROPERLY focus and record Venus – using a Nikon P900. Then another video where the same is shown with Jupiter.
Pay attention to the videos and realize that what is shown to us is indeed Venus and Jupiter and they indeed look exactly like planets are supposed to look. It doesn’t look nothing at all like the supposed sonoluminescence bubble the Flat-Earthers show us and it is the same camera. How is that possible? Simple, those Flat-Earthers don’t even know how to properly use their new favorite
toyweapon. But even then the image is not precise because it is a terrestrial recording equipment, not a celestial one like a telescope – which also show us planets looking like planets with much more precision and quality, completely different from the footage from Flat-Earthers which is unintentionally or even intentionally done in a wrong way that provides intense light distortion and makes planets become unrecognizable.
Explain how images of the same thing, using the same camera, can be so different. And how images of even amateur telescopes are also completely different and support the existence of planets. Flat-Earthers are welcome to try using the same technique showed in the last two videos with their P900s and are also welcomed to try looking through properly configured telescopes and see it for themselves.
March 28, 2018 at 11:23 am #114168Mos DethParticipant
Slow clap. Well done.
March 28, 2018 at 11:18 pm #114182
Well done Solomon/schlomo! Just a few questions? What was that VR business?
March 29, 2018 at 9:03 am #114237
Thank you! What is this VR business that you are talking about?
March 29, 2018 at 9:31 am #114244
In the video it shows sonething with vr on the camera. I can’t remember what? What is it about?
Thanks for teaching me how take a decent pic of very far ,dark but glary objects.i wanted to take a photo of the recent red and blue moons but did not know how to do autoexposure lock with torch trick!
March 29, 2018 at 9:51 am #114246
The VR stands for Vibration Reduction. In the Jupiter video the guy turned it off so he could use the full zoom while focusing on Jupiter.
March 29, 2018 at 6:14 pm #114273
The only Insanity Here Pal, is the fact That Your Username, You Know,,(The One That Was Meant to Insult Da-Jews) Makes You look Quite *RETARDED* Considering You’re FOR NASA, or (To Deceive, in Hebrew),lol, Aw,,, Man-O-Man, You Kids Today Are So Fucking Brainwashed, And Socially-Retarded that you Come-Out with shit like this to boost your moral, and Self Esteem, instead of putting your Fucking I-Phones Down For Once, And (DOING SOME WORK) Properly Researching a Subject, or Topic Before Trying To Make Others In The Know Look Stupid. But,,, You Must Start First
By Taking That Thumb Out of Your Mouth, Cause If NOT,, You,ll Just End-Up Having To Pull-It Out-O-Ass Later, when called-out on Your Horseshit, Like I Am About To Start Doing To You Little Big-Man!!! Only In His 20,s & Already Regurgitating Idiopathic-Sociopathic Bullshit, and Doing-So While Being An Utterly Selfish, and A Self-Centered Arrogant-Cunt, That Has Become Quite the Norm These Days, And A Staple for Most In Your Age Group,,,,PITY,, lol! But it,s ok, as I have Raised 4 Boys, and 2 Much Older, and Wiser than you Can Ever Hope To Be, If You Stay On Your Path Of Being A Close-Minded, And Judgmental Mommy,s Boy, and I Can Easily Tell That You Most Certainly Are!
But If You Change,,, You Will Do Just Fine,,, Cause after A Short While,, *VERY SHORT*,,lol,, My Boys,,They Grew-Out of It, So You,ll be Just Fine, Once Receiving a Few Good, Well-Deserved, Verbal Shit-Kickings. Looks Like I Will Have to Debunk Again, Yet Another Completely Baseless, Non-Studied, Irresponsible Theory-Spewing, AND Disinformation-Spreading, Young-Man. I Also Took The Liberty Of Contacting Your Mom, In Case You Self-Immolate, Burning your Parents House Down, As A Result Of You Fuming, Smoking, And Butt-Hurting, After I,m Done With Your Ass, You Disrespectful Little Ballsy Prick, Making Me Spend Countless More Hours *SHOWING YOU-UP* With MEGA-PROOF That **You Soon To Be Balling-Baller** Will Never Watch Anyways, Pissed-Off Because I Blew You Lil Space Bubble.
BUT WHAT I WILL HAVE TO DO, IS SIMPLY DEBUNK THIS FORUM-PAGE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I *ALSO* HAVE TO DO IT IN ORDER TO HELP OTHERS THAT STARTED LOOKING INTO THE FLAT-EARTH TRUTH WITH THEIR EYES-OPEN, NOT BECOME COMPLETELY DEMORALIZED BECAUSE THEY SEE JUST MORE OF THE SAME UNPROVEN-ALLEGATIONS LIKE THIS ONE SURFACING. SO AS A RESULT, OF PEOPLE POSTING SHIT LIKE THESE **JEWISH-MASONIC-THEORIES** or Straight-Out-Lies, THEY DON,T REALIZE THAT THEY ARE INADVERTENTLY ALSO ENDING-UP SUPPORTING THESE EVIL-CUNTS THAT HAVE SPREAD THIS *NO-GOD* BULLSHIT TO OUR KIDS, IN THE PROCESS, BECAUSE THEY CANNOT THINK FURTHER THEN THE END OF A JEWS-NOSE, ME THINKS!. SO TELL (ME WHERE IS THE INSANITY NOW,) lol. SO, I HAVE MADE-IT MY GOAL, AND MISSION, TO COMPLETELY SHOW-UP AND CALL YOU-OUT, SAD LIL (EXTREMELY BUTT-HURT) **BLEEDING-HART** GLOBE-EARTH SHILL YA!!! AND IT IS SO EVIDENT THAT YOU ARE ONLY SPREADING AND SHOWING-OFF YOUR COMPLETE INDOCTRINATION BECAUSE OF YOUR LIMITED KNOWLEDGE SO YOU ARE **SCHOOL-PARROTING SHIT** FULLY, AND COMPLETELY CAUSE YOU,RE TOO FUCKING LAZY SO YOUR PRETENDING TO BE BUSY AND BECAUSE OF THIS YOU POST ABSOLUTELY ZERO-PROOFS, BUT POST FLAT-EARTH MATERIAL TO CUT DOWN INSTEAD,lol, TO BOOT,, lol, Sad Lil-dude!
BUT, HAVE-IT YOUR WAY DUDE I WILL NOT BACK-OFF LEAVING ANYBODY BEHIND WHILE THEY CONTINUE BEING VICTIMS OF LIES, & COMPLETE INDOCTRINATION, SO I AM ALSO GOING TO CONTINUE TO POUND HARD FOR ***THE OVERALL GOOD OF MANKIND*** SO GOD HELP ME!!! Your Completely Non Researched, or Investigated Topic of Space Having NEVER EVEN EXISTED TO Begin With, has now Been Shown To Be Completely Flawed,And Since It,s Very Inception 500 Years Ago By Your Jew-Bud, lol Copernicus. So **The Flat-Earth Truth** was Never Really Taken Seriously Until New Technological Advances Came In To Play Just A Few Very Short Years Ago That Made It Possible To See Further, Detect Motion Better, And These Advanced Were Key In Order To Reexamine This Mind-Blowing Truth In Complete Detail While Still, And Out Of Respect For People to Know The Absolute *TRUTH* It Remained Paramount That It Was Done While Completely Being Unbiased While Doing-So! And As A Result Of You Calling-It Insanity,,, A Group Of Men 30 Years Your Senior Including Myself, Would Laugh In Your Face, And Throw Your Skinny Lil Momma,s Boy,s Ass,,,, In Da-Fucken Dumpster, if You Ever Tried Ridiculing Any Of Us In Person On A Construction Site.
Because These Men with Accredited Careers like Engineers,,, Long-Distance Surveyors, (marine, & land),,, Retired University Professors that were so **SICK OF SPREADING LIES TO KIDS**,,, Land Developers & City Planners that level-off Thousands of Acres while planning whole subdivisions, highways, streets, and Bridges, that I Have Spent Almost 30 FULL-YEARS Of Working Closely With ***ALL OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED PROFESSIONALS*** while reviewing City Drawings,, Engineer Approved Plans, And Personally Working The Auto-Cad System, & Cabinet Vision, And Reading City Approved Drawings Before, Analyzing, and Approving our Construction Plans for up to 3500 hundred homes, strip malls, and 2 to 3 Schools in each of them. And WE ALL NOW KNOW WITH 100% Certainty, that Earth is Flat Taking-into account that we have never added Any Allowances whatsoever (not even 1 inch) For Curvature Ever,,, not even once.
And when we were in the planing stages of a designated, and city approved plot of land, we would begin the task of creating plans, to go along with the City plans, (that their Surveyors had already pinned) for the outline of the whole future development, and then (Our Surveyors) would go, and factoring in if we had to raise, lower, or build retaining walls using these new high distance Lasers, would allow-us to price the amount of fill needed, or to have filled removed if the land is not purely Bedrock. And if so, then we had to, Hoe ram, then Blast it down to a more Suitable level, to build the streets to a safer pitch, and step housing blocks down with retaining walls every two rows oh houses, or 3 blocks of towns. And just Like Many Of You STILL DO TODAY,,, We never gave a second thought to this as we worked away. It was just when all this New And Much More Technologically Advanced Equipment Came Into Play like *CAMERA,s WITH ALMOST UNLIMITED DIGITAL-ZOOM CAPABILITIES,,, ADVANCED HIGH PRECISION LASER LEVELING SYSTEMS,,, AND THESE NOW EVEN MORE ADVANCE DIGITAL EDM SYSTEMS THAT CAN ALLOW A SURVEYOR TO ACCURATELY MEASURE AT LEAST TWICE THE DISTANCE OF OLDER EDM,s THAT USED TO EASILY REACH 5 KILOMETERS, SO A 10 + KILOMETER RANGE, Which they Were Able To Measure Quite Easily, And Did So Quite Often. And even when measuring 20 SQ. Kilometers plots, NOT EVEN 1 SINGLE INCH WAS OFF, lol, lol, lol, when there should Have Been Lots-Off due to a Supposed Curvature, And (LIKE 1950 FEET OF MISSING CURVE) Left Over for the Remainder of this Huge Site,LOL.
So I ASK YOU ALL,,***WHERE IS THE MISSING 1950 FEET IN MISSING CURVATURE*** Nowhere NADA-ZILTCH-NONE NO-EXISTA! 🙂
March 29, 2018 at 8:01 pm #114287
March 29, 2018 at 7:47 pm #114285
After reading your reply I must say that I’m completely speechless because you managed to debunk… NOTHING of what I wrote in my post and write a lot of bullshit and personal insults that have nothing to do with it.
My post was about the existence of planets, not if the Earth is flat or spherical. As you should know there are a lot Flat-Earthers out there who don’t believe in this glass firmament and believe in a outer space filled with planets and stars. Are they part of the conspiracy too? Are they double agents from the Mossad and NASA? The fact that you went completely out of topic, spewed a lot of insults (that were funny and made me laugh) and avoided answering my simple questions and debunking the evidence that I provided just shows how you miserably lost the argument (and possibly your sanity too).
Your personal insults were really low, really cheap. I didn’t expect that coming from you. Yes, I’m young, but I’m nothing like the vast majority of retarded and brainwashed people out there that, let me be real clear here, is not exclusively young. The majority of them is actually older than me, like baby boomers for instance, and these older people are the culprits of today’s retarded young people you’re referring to because they are the ones who raised their spoiled brats the wrong way and allowed them to be the way they are today – brainwashed by leftist dogma and full of consumerist and nihilistic impulses. I could be calling you crazy grandpa but I’m not. My age, is that all you got? That’s sad.
You had the audacity to call me a shill, brainwashed by our education system, even though every political content I posted here on Best Gore or elsewhere had nothing to do the lies that have been fed to us – it goes completely against them, like the Holocaust, White Genocide, the JQ, the role of Judaism behind Bolshevism and several other cancers and so on. It’s funny that when I started to post here on BG in an ironical jewish way you actually thought I was for real. It took @theprotocolsofzion to explain the obvious to you and then myself. Now you’re at it again which just shows how you completely lost it this time.
There is a small amount of people here on BG who understands and likes to discuss important political issues, you’re one of them and I realized that since I started here. The only thing we disagree upon is this, Flat-Earth, and as I have said at least 2 times to you that I didn’t want that to impact our friendship and you’ll have to learn to agree to disagree. I saw you having polite discussions with @hopingfornemesis and @theprotocolsofzion and I was expecting you to do the same here, but that’s not what happened here. For the last couple of months all you did was post Flat-Earth content and recently you also started to ruthlessly offend and demean anyone who thinks differently of you, just like that other retarded pal of yours. I don’t want to be related or associated with this kind of people, it’s a waste of time and a pool negativity and ignorance.
Disagree with the old and wise know-it-all @thedre, the gatekeeper of truth, and his blind fury will be released upon you!
The best part though is that several people here in BG, most certainly Mark is included, is noticing these behaviors of your part. They might not say it to your face, but in case they do and disagree with you then you’ll have to prepare a lot of hysterical and out of topic comments full of personal insults like that one you just directed to me.
You crossed the line, Dre, a line that you perhaps isn’t even aware of, but you just crossed it. This post here and your comment above will stay here as proof for everyone to see what I’m talking about.
March 30, 2018 at 4:10 am #114297lady-lexisParticipant
You can’t argue with this kind of mentality @eraserhead-2 and it’s pointless to try. You put together a thought provoking post and got personal insults and irrelevant points thrown back at you. This is how fanatics operate; I pay them as much heed as the puritanical preacher with his microphone in the town in a Sunday. If they cannot debate openly and concisely, you’ll always be wasting your time. I enjoyed your post here, thanks!
March 30, 2018 at 10:19 am #114327
Thank you, I hope to see more of you on the politics side of the BG forum (which will not have more Flat-Earth bullshit hopefully).
Yes, it is indeed pointless to try having a healthy and productive discussion with brainwashed people. I already knew that was the case with Flat-Earthers but I made this post as a last effort to put this matter to sleep in this site, which is being stained with Flat-Earth bullshit and pointless discussions for the last couple of months. I will certainly not waste my time anymore with this matter and as I said above this post will stay here as another proof of the fanaticism that this kind of people have and will certainly serve as a warning so people don’t waste their time too.
March 30, 2018 at 10:30 am #114328
March 30, 2018 at 11:19 am #114338
Thank you for the compliments. I have two older half-brothers that are on their 30s already and live in different states. One is from my mother and the other from my father. We visit each other every year though and get along very well.
March 30, 2018 at 4:48 am #114300
Solomon, i agree with most of your points in this post and elsewhere .i disagree on where you blame society’s ills exclusively on the Left. However,you know that already.
@thedre, i did not see solomon’s post personally attacking you or your theories. You need to stop taking things personally or people will stop engaging with you. I know you have not slept, are stressed about houses and on opiate medication. I know that can drive you mad. I have been there but please stop taking things personally. Your stock of friends here will dry up if you do not. I keep talking with you because i know your heart is in the right place brother. I would never expend this much time on someone else over the internet over a science discussion. I would have just given up. Please take things lightly.
March 30, 2018 at 10:37 am #114330
Thank for the support, glad to know we’re on the same page regarding most issues.
I don’t actually blame 100% of society’s ills on the Left, it’s more like 99% hahaha! I’m kidding of course. I also criticize the Right a lot and I have done so a few times here on BG. The new Right-Wing movements that were created recently and are gaining more support for the last couple of years, like the Alt-Right or Traditional Conservatives like Varg Vikernes, are also heavy critics of this blupilled cuckservative Right and even of themselves (Trad Cons like Varg dislike the Alt-Right and vice-versa).
The problem is the bluepilled Right, the cucked Right (which includes Center and Center-Right ideologies, and true fascists and National Socialists too) who are not enough to change the world for better because they still support the other side, whether intentionally or unintentionally. They are brainwashed, they were infiltrated and corrupted to the core. They are the other side of the same coin.
Anyhoo, that’s a discussion for another day. Thank you again and stay well.
March 30, 2018 at 6:03 pm #114348
March 31, 2018 at 8:28 am #114367
Wow,,, The Incredible amount of B G,ers that i have noticed this morning, just being completely convinced that an 18 year old kid, somehow has had (More Real Live Experiences,) regarding My Many observations made, Years Before He Was *Even-Spawned* Of what i believed to be These Weird, Morphing, Color-Changing, *NON TERRA-FIRMA* Objects in Our Night Sky with My Telescopes, Marine Long Distance Binoculars, Amassing a Wealth of Information While Doing-So, That Was Recently A Couple Years Ago (Unquestionably solidified) With many Thousands Of Amateur Astrology Buffs Posting Non-C.G.I. Touched-Up Video,s (that can very easily be verified) of what you can see for yourself are simply Electromagnetic Energy-Pulses in the Sky. I Know That Today,s Kids,,, Are much more Brilliantly-Indoctrinated By The *THEORIES THAT THEY HAVE ALL BEEN MADE TO SWALLOW WHOLE* lol, and then Regurgitating-It Whole To The Masses (As 100% Truth.) And i say this cause they are just so much more informed Then The People Who Have Investigated These **FACTS** But being brains, like they are, and cause they just know (ABOUT EVERYTHING) without ever investigating both sides first in order to be 100 % UNBIASED and Open-Minded about ANY other Non-Scientifically studied cause Fake C.G.I. & Schoolbook Pictures still circulating today in School, and unfortunately,,, Peoples Brainwashed Brains Also, God Bless You,s 🙁
CONDEMNATION WITHOUT INVESTIGATION IS A SURE SIGN OF ONES COMPLETE INDOCTRINATION. HAS NEVER BEEN TRUER IN THIS CASE, IF YOU DON,T TRUST PROOF, AND YOUR OWN NATURAL GOD-GIVEN SENSES, BUT TRUST UNTESTED BASELESS THEORIES INSTEAD!
Also,,, it is *SO MINDBOGGLINGLY OBVIOUS* Seeing how you,ve Have All Watched, & Read, His UNPROVEN, THEORY-BASED VIDEO,s,,, And Commented on them With Statements Like,,, So True,,, Well Done, and So On, when Never Watching, Reading, Studying then Commenting on the Ones that I Have Researched Vigorously & Posted. This In Itself Shows Without A Doubt, (How Truly BIASED) And Completely HYPOCRITICAL, You have been while arriving to your conclusions!!! SORRY, BUT ONCE AGAIN, I AM JUST BEING TRUTHFUL AND BRUTALLY HONEST! OH,,, THE IRONY OF IT ALL!
AND,, AS ALWAYS,, YOU,S WILL NOT LOOK AT ANY NEW EVIDENCES THAT I POST LIKE THE 3 SHORT TRUTH-PROOFS BELOW, SAD!!!
MARS A PLANET YOU SAY & IT EXISTS,, *THE INSANITY* & DENIAL OF *IN YOUR FACE NEW EVIDENCES* & TRUTH-PROOFS!!
April 1, 2018 at 12:02 am #114380
Third video. Neptune etc.
Nothing new. Have you seen why stars twinkle? They twinkle because of cosmic dust andbburst of radiationfrom the star itself. Neptune has ring around it. So what. At the right time of year you will have beautiful reflections off it.
Otherwise it looks like a possibly unfocused shaking video of neptune or mars.
Still not conclusive proof.
April 1, 2018 at 12:19 am #114381
First video. Tells me nothing. I want evidence. I dont believe the coloured spinning objects are anything really new. Probably unfocusssed stars twinkling as we know they do.
Starlight is of diff wavelengths. Through the right lens and unfocussed you will see their light as wavy multi -coloured rainbows.
The video does not prove Mars is not Terra Firma. Noone used to evidence will be convinced of this dre. I know you have evidence -specialists in your family dre;one in archaelogy.
I am sure that person would ask you for more convincing evidence than this,just as i do. This is just not enough.
April 1, 2018 at 3:35 pm #114398Doc UndiesParticipant
All I see are atmospheric effects. This is the reason the Hubble Telescope is in space. I’ve seen Mars in my own telescope, it was still very clear and nothing like those artifacts from that Nikon camera. Nice try Dre.
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