Step by step guide for women to rape males (satire)

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    • #75716

      This is for a party/club scenario, which is where these sexually charged encounters often seem to start.

      1. Find your target. Find a man who you find attractive. He’ll be wearing clothes that show off his physique and his posture will let females know that he is interested in getting pussy that night. He will definitely be”sending signals.” I’m not sure what that means but I have seen it used many times as a defense in cases where cock-teasing women were raped. This will also apply to pussy-teasing males.
      2. Have several drinks. Alcohol is often a contributing factor to poor decision-making that leads to pussy-teasers getting taught a lesson.
      3. During dancing or just hanging out, he will touch you, put his arm around you, push his body close to yours – these are signs that you will be getting dick later.
      4. Go somewhere alone or walk in him home or just go for a walk – just be alone. It’s great if he’s tipsy. That’s perfect.

      Here’s where it gets totally uncool. Maybe he sobers up a bit and realizes you’re not as attractive as you looked in the club, maybe a little fatter, too much makeup. He might start thinking he’s above fucking an ugly slut. Or maybe he has a girlfriend and has sudden guilt. It could be any number of things BUT the point is – he no longer wishes to fuck you. He just wants to go home and sleep off the alcohol and forget about it. Are you going to take that shit, ladies? He was rubbing up on you, sending signals, being a pussy-tease all night. He owes you.

      Let’s resume the steps:

      5. Knock him out. Grab a piece of firewood, a large rock, whatever you find. While he’s out, bind him to whatever is convenient – a fence, a piece of furniture if you get in his place.
      6. Mount the guy. Use lube, spit, whatever and just force the dick in. It’ll be soft but when his head clears, you have a good shot at him getting an erection. This is not because he wants you. Cases have proven men get erections during a rape due to biology and not desire. If he stays soft, just rub your clit on his flaccid dick. Good enough.
      7. Pick an option:
      a. Untie him and leave. No one will believe him anyway. He’s such a pussy-magnet.
      b. Kill him. Then people online can laugh at his dead body and make fun of his dick.

      And that’s how you successfully rape a male who led you on and then didn’t deliver. He took the chance. Live and learn or die and don’t learn. Either way, you were justified. The urge to girl-jizz is strong.

    • #76211
      undergroundweller
      Participant

      Firstly, It’s easy to identify women who are cock teasing by their clothes and actions, but pussy teaser men, it’s more complicated. You know there are differences between male and female in courtship, and by the way, the differences between sexes during courtship get very accentuated. But I presume you were talking about a guy who was on the hunt for pussy, hitting on lots of girls and molesting them by rubbing his dick on them (in which case he is a douchebag if you didn’t do anything and is properly dressed, or he is just responding to your cock teasing signals), or perhaps a dude who was not hitting on anyone but was partying hard, dancing and drinking carelessly.
      Secondly, it’s a shitty scenario. You are professing rape. You say BG has intolerant people (misogynists I presume), but just imagine what would happen to me if I posted something more or less like this satire, but advocating not the rape of a guy, but of a girl on facebook.
      Now, If a girl does 7.a. to a guy she should be sentenced to death (as a man who raped and killed a woman in a similar scenario also should be). If she does 7.b. she should be punished by the law (if I had control over it, it would ,mean a stay (for perhaps a moderate period of time) on a labor camp, the same to a guy on an inverted scenario, although it wouldn’t be a punishment as harsh as it should/would be for a dark alley rape scenario). Nevertheless, the point I guess you’re trying to make, is if it is the guy’s fault. Now, if the guy is one of those jerks who go to parties and act crazy, drinking a lot and moving away from his friends carelessly and who thinks he owns the place, who has no respect, and does not analyze the girl whom he is with, he is doing so at his own risk. There are stories (I don’t know if they are true) of men waking up without their wallets or valuables, or even worse, without a kidney after a girl has slipped something into his drink. So a man has to make his selection and know what he is for, see the risk that he is running in each situation. If he wants to take high risks, he shouldn’t be surprised if the consequences are harsh. Although we might argue that on general men run less risks, maybe it has to do with their physical strength to defend from a unwanted advance (although they are biologically moved by a potent urge to jizz, which can make them more easy to manipulate (despite men’s higher reasoning capacity in general).
      I would like to point out other stuff too, you said that the urge to jizz is strong, I doubt it is as strong for females as it is for a male. Moreover, for a girl to rape a guy on the scenario you described I presume she would have to be desperate, like, if a girl goes to a party she ends up getting hit sooner or later, if not surrounded by men at times, with men it is quite different. So I presume the girl would have to be very ugly or maybe a nymphomaniac or just in search of something different (in which case she would be a psychopath) to do what you’ve described.

    • #76239

      @undergroundweller Weller, I honestly didn’t read your whole post. I started and I then just quit. Why bother? So I don’t know what you said. But I hope my step by step (satire) will help you avoid being raped and killed by an ugly girl that you don’t want.

    • #77238
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      Third time I’ve read where someone posted that rapists deserve the death penalty…but never seen where someone posted that the murderer of those victims shown on videos deserve it… everyone is too busy laughing and joking about the victim..it’s hard for me to imagine a guy being a victim when it comes to rape,maybe because I’m on these types of websites and read all your fucked up comments about how you would still fuck the dead girl in the video and so forth.

      • #77239

        According to Mark, it happens almost as much to men by women than to women by men. So I used the reasoning of commenters like Weller of why women are raped and wrote up a way for us evil women to do it right. If it sounds ridiculous, yeah, it’s supposed to. I wanted to make a point. Your last sentence tells me you got the joke. Cool.

        • #77260

          You better have something to back up your claim, if you make one like that. Cause I’m pretty sure I never said that. What I did say is quote from a number of studies which all conclude that men are the primary victims of rape, ie by mere virtue of being a woman, one faces a lesser chance of being raped.

        • #77261

          EDIT: Mark quoted from studies saying men are more likely to be raped than women. The gender of perpetrators was not mentioned. So that part of comment made by me Feb 21 at 5:44pm is retracted. There.

        • #77263

          https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/1748355

          This was not the argument that was being advanced, but either way, academic studies found that males and females carry out sexual violence at strikingly similar rates after the age of 18. Whether more rapes were done by women or men doesn’t change the fact that men are the primary victims of rape.

        • #77264

          Well this post tells women how to rape even more men. Satire, of course. Very few of the things in the “instructions” really happen to men. Nobody points out their clothing choices after the fact but that’s why it’s satire. It’s not really meant to serve as fact. I just wanted to see all the excuses for rape I’ve read on this site listed out and I used a male victim to illustrate how actually irresponsible many of the assumptions and excuses are. Just entertainment. There’s really nothing to argue about since this is stated as satire and not actual fact. I misquoted you and I did retract it. This isn’t meant to serve as a “who commits more rape” or “who gets raped more” study. I do assure you that I won’t “misword” anything else and call it your words.

        • #77363
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          You didn’t read my reply because it would damage your view that I am a misogynist or have a fallacious logic. So you chose to ignore it. That’s at least a progress, in a certain way, as you used to distort my comments before. With time I have seen that I am not the only one who has complained about his comments having being distorted by you. Clearly this is not a coincidence. You’re trying to manipulate people here to extend your privilege. You’ve said that you take what I say personally, which I take it to mean that it disturbs your privilege and attacks your sense of entitlement. After seeing various of your posts and different pictures I will tell you why I think that you take it personally. That’s because you’re a cock teaser yourself.

      • #77355
        undergroundweller
        Participant

        @isrealkeyes I am not sure, but I strongly suspect that in your answer you are referring to my comment, as it was the only one besides plaster’s by the time you posted it. If it’s not, I apologize and you shouldn’t read it. But if it is I have to intervene as you’re distorting my words. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that I’ve realized now that I inverted what I think should happen in 7a and 7b in my answer. The outcome for 7a I said as being that for 7b and vice-versa, that is, she should be killed if she murdered the guy. I guess that when I wrote ”(as a man who raped and killed a woman in a similar scenario also should be)’’ it should be clear what I meant. So if you’re talking that I advocate the death penalty for her raping the guy, you’re wrong. I said she should be killed only for the murder of the guy.
        Also, you’ve said ”but never seen where someone posted that the murderer of those victims shown on videos deserve it’’. Clearly you haven’t fucking read my comments, as I make very few jokes, if any (I can remember me just using sarcasm at times, but not joking about any post, and if I did, it was maybe just once or twice), treat the posts seriously and try to make relevant comments. So stop spreading shit and distorting what I say. I don’t need one more entitled cock teaser here distorting my fucking words. So shut your big mouth, weather if your brain is not capable of processing things right or if you’re trying to distort what I say for your selfish stupid benefit, you hybristophiliac degenerate (I took a look at your profile as I don’t remember seeing you here, and the name of it). Moreover, I have said time and again that many of the murderers we see on the videos deserve death penalty…

        • #77361
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          *…the death penalty.

        • #77368
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          First of all you fucking parasite I read your fucking comments and personally give zero fucks about you asshole don’t pick me out of the lot to insult because I’ll tell you straight up how I feel and to be honest you fucking waste of oxygen I have no feelings when it comes to people like you there’s nothing you can say to make me think less of myself…too bad you a spoiled little fucker without real life putting the dick to your jaw..take your shit else where better yet next time you feel the need to insult me go grab your ugly ass mother and tell her to suck you a luliby bitch

        • #77370
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          You bloody bastard don’t give a shit about me, great, so why don’t you ignore my comments instead of distorting them. The only worthless person here is you as the only thing you wrote is shit, in which you distorted my comment. You’re so fucking entitled you didn’t even mention the shit you wrote about me, just the analyses which I made of you which made up less than 20% of my comment. You have been exposed for the fallacious comment you have made, and your stupid selfish statements, and you retort me with only insults, no arguments, typical of someone irrational. You said that you read my comments, liar, otherwise you wouldn’t have said : ’’but never seen where someone posted that the murderer of those victims shown on videos deserve it’’. My only interest in you is scientific, I would love to see you one day here on BG after your fantasies have been fulfilled, you see, natural selection fascinates me.

    • #77240
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      Never will I believe that there are just as many male victims of rape as there are female.the first rapist i became fascinated with was Mikhail popkov,he raped and murdered a total of 82 women here in Russia.ive never even heard of a female rapist but the us did have Aileen wuornos lol..

    • #77369
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      Fuckers probably got molested now they hateful bastards…too bad real life never shoved the cock in their jaw

      • #77373
        undergroundweller
        Participant

        Wait, you said before it was dick in the jaw, now, it’s not cock in the jaw. You’ve gotta make up your mind babe…

    • #77376
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      @undergrounddweller…please take hold of yourself.your comments mean fucking nothing to me and you mean fucking nothing to me so go cry elsewhere you fucking scum you picked me out of the lot to insult so let me introduce myself bitch…my name is vladislava volkova and I feel absolutely nothing.im so detached from everything…I’m here for my own personal gratification not to be your buddy bitch so do me a real big favor…hang yourself and live stream it so I can masturbate to something worthy

      • #77379
        undergroundweller
        Participant

        ”please take hold of yourself.your comments mean fucking nothing to me and you mean fucking nothing to me”. OK, so just don’t talk more shit about me. Don’t distort what I say. Don’t you see that you literally put words into my mouth. That’s what pissed me off. I couldn’t help as to wonder the reasons why you did it, as you were not the first to do it. If you wanna criticize my comment, feel free, but the moment you distort information is when you can expect a full fledged assault. You don’t look like a retard, so you know what you did, you manipulated my comment.
        ”you picked me out of the lot to insult” Are you kidding me? You’re saying that I picked you up at random to insult you. Haven’t I made it clear why I replied to your comment. If someone says that you’ve murdered ”x”, if you haven’t murdered ”x”, would you think that it’s OK or would you defend yourself?

        • #77386
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          Ohhh ..fucking shit.what is your problem? Just tell me.maybe I can help you.is your turn on sitting at the computer screen insulting women?if so I can help you….maybe you like something more like grabbing a bitch by the throat and fucking the shit out of her…but I only get off when death occurs.. strangulation and rape is my strong fetish. ..just know that unless I see you being killed by strangulation and fucked up the ass you mean nothing to me

        • #77399
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          So that’s what you have to say to me. That’s your argument, to list your sexual fantasies to me. It only proves that what I said is right, that you are a degenerate who doesn’t bother to read, process and logically retort my opinions, and by the looks of it, despite being no retard, doesn’t also have some of the mental capabilities to do it. The only thing you’re worried with is satisfying your perverted sexual fantasies, as we’ve seen and as you’ve plainly stated in your comments. You don’t separate what were supposedly your arguments from your perversions. You’re willing to fabricate facts and distort other people’s arguments to such an end. It just strengthens what I said to you in my first comment. Moreover, each and every phrase in your comment is a reflection of your sick mind, your abundant use of dirty words and insults, disregard for proper writing etc. Logical arguments trying to prove that I was wrong about the death penalty or anything I said, or even recognizing you told me shit and distorted my comments, nowhere to be seen. To finish off, if you’re here for your personal gratification, stick to the plan and go to the chill out zone or wherever, instead of going to the societally relevant topic and starting serious arguments and distorting what other people say.

        • #77408
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          ”No, he doesn’t need to be locked up, he should be executed, on the breaking wheel or other harsh method, preferably.”. Here’s a comment I made on that 7 year old Indian boy that was killed and cannibalized…

    • #77384
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      Any rape and strangulation videos if anyone has them I’ll pay for them email me volkova [email protected] .com but videos must be real I will not accept role play porn

    • #77392
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      You fucking scum..please do me a favor and go get fucked up the ass while I watch and my man strangles me ….watching a man getting fucked and beat and strangled is a turn on for me ..I don’t hide shit …I get off on Mfs like you struggling for breath

      • #77401
        undergroundweller
        Participant

        This is a societally relevant topic, not the chill out zone for us to discuss your sexual fantasies. I heard that Russian bitches were crazy and sick in the mind (that it must be their mongol blood), thanks for providing me an example of it. Now, that’s a societally relevant topic, you see…

      • #77406
        undergroundweller
        Participant

        Mongol, Tartar or whatever crazy tribe that comes from the steppes…

        • #77708
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          .we spell it TATAR which is the correct spelling. im Slavic and proud to be of Serbian decent.explaining my physical characteristics except I have blue eyes .I’ve never heard of a “tartar”.

        • #78083
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          I know it’s Tatar, it was a typing mistake. And you don’t have much credit to be criticizing other people’s language skills…

    • #77394
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      Anyone that has rape strangulation videos I’ll pay money but video must be real I will not accept role play porn…my email is vvolkov [email protected]

    • #77398
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      @isrealkeyes
      You’re soooo edgy. 😉

    • #77424
      Papa Sinister
      Participant

      Can’t we all just get along?

    • #77425
      Papa Sinister
      Participant

      NO!! HA!!

    • #77426
      Papa Sinister
      Participant

      @isrealkeyes Why not make a video of your own? I’ll be your victim…..do your worst mistress.

    • #77430
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      Hahahaha….😂

    • #77431
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      @isrealkeyes

      Bitch, you ain’t fucking shit.
      You ain’t fucking nothing but a fucking bitch waiting to get fucking abused like the fucking slut you fucking are.

      Oh wait, you like getting fucking talked to like a fucking dirty little fucking slut while you get fucking choked and cummed in by multiple fucking dicks you little fucking worthless cunt. Soz, I don’t mean to rev your fucking gears, you little fucking freak. 😉

      • #77589
        FromRussiawithlove
        Participant

        Lol..sounds good except the multiple dicks part..😂😉

    • #77464
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      Oh fuck, I barely remember writing this shit lastnight hahaha, fuuuckk.

      But aye, it’s all g, no harm meant, it seems like I felt like being a fucking weird cunt lastnight hahah.

    • #77483
      itsplaster
      Participant

      @undergroundweller

      ” After seeing various of your posts and different pictures I will tell you why I think that you take it personally. That’s because you’re a cock teaser yourself”

      Are you talking to ME? dethbyplaster?

      (new temp acct as I’m locked out of regular one)

    • #77498
      itsplaster
      Participant

      @undergroundweller

      ” After seeing various of your posts and different pictures I will tell you why I think that you take it personally. That’s because you’re a cock teaser yourself”

      Are you talking to ME? dethbyplaster?

    • #77529
      itsplaster
      Participant

      @undergroundweller

      “After seeing various of your posts and different pictures I will tell you why I think that you take it personally. That’s because you’re a cock teaser yourself”

      Well I found the secret to shutting you up. You can’t produce evidence at all for the above comment. I have had 2 close-up face pics, 2 pics wearing coats and this pic which does not show cleavage.
      Any flirting I have done is to goof off with Walla, Flare, I can’t recall anyone else. Those comments included nothing that could be considered cock-teasing. I’ve made myself very clear to any guys that I am married.

      Your claim is shit and you know it.

      • #77538
        undergroundweller
        Participant

        No, it’s not shit. If a girl is a cock teaser it is not only in her clothes, but how and what she speaks, her body language and so on. You’re nowhere near the level of those Argentinians, though, but I think you can qualify for the term.

        • #77539
          itsplaster
          Participant

          Changing the parameters? Okay. Body language – you’ve never seen me animated in any manner, just a still photo. How I speak – never heard the tone of my voice or my voice at all. What I say – I owned up to innocent flirting already. And my pictures are innocent. So? Your judgement comes from what?
          I figured out your meaning of cock teaser: Unavailable to have at your leisure.
          That answers SO many questions about your attitude and women saying No.
          Then sure, I’m a cock teaser because I am extremely, absolutely unavailable.

        • #77544
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          Fist of all, I wasn’t saying that you are a cock teaser for how you speak. Just giving an example of other factors besides clothing that make a cock teaser.
          Secondly, Body language can be seen in pictures, in stills of emotion, as a matter of fact the books on the subject utilize lots of pictures, such as The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals by Charles Darwin.
          What I used to determine that you are a cock teaser were your clothing, body language and what you write. I have never met you face to face to know you better and to confirm, but I am telling you what I see so far, and that is that you are somewhat of a cock teaser. If I met you in real person, you’re right, I could be wrong, but so far the evidence points in this direction. If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck…
          ”I figured out your meaning of cock teaser: Unavailable to have at your leisure.” Not necessarily so…
          ”Then sure, I’m a cock teaser because I am extremely, absolutely unavailable.” Deth, Deth, Deth…

        • #77549
          itsplaster
          Participant

          My clothes? My winter coats I’ve worn in 2 pics? Or a tank top that doesn’t fall below my sternum. Yeah, if collarbones tease men, then they have an issue. You’ve never seen my body language. If you can find some hidden sex face in my pic, again that’s on you. If there are men who find those details as cock-teasing, they are hypersexual and need help. They are obviously raping completely innocent women if those are the qualifications to be a cock tease. Again, you seem to think raping whoever is fine so long as they accidentally smile wrong or whatever you count as “teasing.” Chances are, they don’t even notice you. You need therapy. Some people say that as an insult. I truly mean it. You have some very disturbing ideas about women. Without knowing they did anything, they can become victims. That’s not okay.

        • #77559
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          ‘Again, you seem to think raping whoever is fine so long as they accidentally smile wrong or whatever you count as “teasing.”’. No, I don’t, I understand there’s a process involved in courtship…
          ”If there are men who find those details as cock-teasing, they are hypersexual and need help”. I don’t believe there are borders on this issue. Maybe the way I write has done you to think so, although I tried to make it clear. You see, I visualize it as a spectrum. If you wanna see how clothes are progressively sexy, get a video that depicts the evolution of bikinis from 1890 up to nowadays. And that’s just a factor. Then, you have women in a whole spectrum of cock teasing. There are those who aren’t, such as some muslim women, and then a whole spectrum passing throughout you, Miss Vladsvostokva or whatever (above), those Argentinians and so on.

        • #77592
          itsplaster
          Participant

          I’d be afraid to show the slightest interest in you, knowing how detailed you judge each move of a woman. I’d look down at my drink and not look up. I have no idea how a woman could start any dialogue with you. It’s mystery to me.

        • #77601
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          People judge each other on their appearances, be it on a conscious or subconscious level. They judge you on your race, clothes, hair style, posture etc, even those who say they don’t, actually do it. I have traveled enough as to know that this is the case in different places and with different people. Like, there are the leftists or libertards, or whatever you want to call them, who say that they don’t do it, but if you are white and have some cash you are labelled as a racist, oppressor and so on, the opposite if you are a poor negro. It’s interesting how you touched upon women, as they do it, at least, as much as men do, if not more. They look at a guy’s clothes, his car, as to try and estimate his personality (if he has the style that she likes, if you will) or if he has a lot of cash. They also look at body posture, as for instance, women like confident men. Men also do it, for instance, I had a friend who said that women who die their hair blond and have skin that is dark (brown or black), are usually perverted (and he had experience with that), and seemed to be talking the truth, as even light skinned women who die the hair blond seem to be promiscuous. Marylin Monroe (who was not a natural blonde) and other Hollywood blondes may explain it, as perhaps they’ve propagated the culture.
          Cops frown upon tattoos, or at least they used to in decades past, and that may have some logical backing as Cesare Lombroso (the criminologist) documented. If you observe well, people with tattoos tend not to conform to social norms, either in a positive or in a bad way, and criminals do seem to have more tattoos than the general population, for instance, gang members use tattoos.
          With clothes, the effect is even more perceptible, as clothes are artificially created by society and can be used to identify you profession. If you see someone in a white coat, you presume he works in a lab or in a hospital or somewhere along these lines. If a guy likes a band, he may wear a shirt of the certain band (he could wear it because he doesn’t have other clothes, but if he has long hair and other certain clues it may be verified whether he is a fan of that band or not). Here’s a video which says it in a comical way:

          You can imagine that cold reading makes sense, as we tend to group and classify things according to their characteristics and properties as to better manipulate them. Like, imagine from an evolutionary perspective, if one of your ancestors you saw what looked like a big feline, he would be on the alert, as from his experience big felines are dangerous and can be aggressive. The same with people, if he saw a person, or a group of people, with certain characteristics that are threatening, he would be on the alert. It’s not like a full blown judgment of the person, but more of a cold reading as to try and be prepared to anticipate certain situations that can be threatening or opportunistic. Like I’ve said, I have traveled somewhat as to be on the receiving end and also on the giving end of judging people in different places and know how pre-judgement can be beneficial. For instance, I was aware that gypsies are a troublesome bunch from my research. And I was right, as no other group harassed me, begged/tried to press me for cash, tried to con me and other people etc during the time I traveled, despite them being a minority.
          Perhaps, I gave a perspective more of negative judgements here, but there is also positive judgements that people make.

        • #77616
          itsplaster
          Participant

          @undergroudweller
          People judge people. I had no idea. Marilyn wasn’t actually a blonde? Who knew? Oh yeah, everybody … tattoos, white coats, Dave Chapelle. But that is your MO (modus operandi.) Don’t like the subject? Change it to something you can talk about and appear knowledgeable. I’ve seen you do it many times.

          You took my saying “judge” out of context. I meant YOU personally judge women in a very detailed way; therefore I’d avoid eye contact with you or someone like you to avoid unwarranted assumptions. No need for the smoke and mirrors reply. It has nothing to do with YOUR personal way of judging women.

          One thing you got so wrong (well, about me personally) – I don’t look at a guy’s car. Boys look at MY bombshell, badass car.

        • #77642
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          “Don’t like the subject? Change it to something you can talk about and appear knowledgeable” Did I change the subject? Explain me how. You talked about me judging women and I built upon the subject. Moreover, you’re the one who is notorious for using the straw man technique here…
          “One thing you got so wrong (well, about me personally) – I don’t look at a guy’s car. Boys look at MY bombshell, badass car.” Granted, I don’t remember ever saying that you were a gold digger, you don’t look like what I would call a gold digger. I could be wrong, though. Nevertheless, women do look at a guy’s possessions, some women to a greater, other women to a lesser extent…

        • #77656
          itsplaster
          Participant

          Weller, You do that to everybody. You call it “building on a subject” – I call it taking the focus off the real discussion. But it’s cool.
          I know where you stand on “cockteasers.” I know people that think like you are a danger; not by your actions but by your support of people who actually break the law and ruin lives.
          However, men, in general, are good and I wouldn’t want to live without men. I know you are the minority and that’s why I won’t take up misandry. I only attract good men anyway. Abusive, misogynistic types run away from my “signals” in search of weaker prey.

        • #77619
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          He’s judging women by their clothes? And insulting me for being Russian? His fucking ass is in Brazil…where most women wear shorts in their ass .not to mention they have nigger in them from what I understand. and from what I’ve seen about the place its a dirty shit hole.with no shortage of flip flops.after seeing that he posted he is fucking Brazil I remembered what he said about my people,and I had to laugh.better here than in a country full of jungle bunnies.

        • #77623
          itsplaster
          Participant

          People want Russian brides. I haven’t heard of a big market for Brazilian brides. :p

        • #77624
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          Brazilian brides would be less maintenance..just keep them in bananas and flip flops

        • #77647
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          That’s true, but I was impressed by the number of people I crossed paths with while living abroad with Brazilian girlfriends. Irish, British (granted, British women are not that much of a thing either), Americans and so on. As there are Brazilians living everywhere, I guess that they don’t need to come here for them. Nevertheless, it seems that they quickly realize that our women are trash, despite having big booties, and so they quickly dump them. Like, I met an American who had just split up with his Brazilian girlfriend as he complained that she was no good. And the guy looked like a douchebag, somewhat of a Jersey shore style kind of guy, just for you to see the scope of the situation. I don’t attribute it all to genetics, some of it is environmental too, as I have explained above (granted, it started in the people with the lowest genetic quality in our society).

        • #77645
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          “His fucking ass is in Brazil…where most women wear shorts in their ass”: I have said time and again that Brazilian women are whorish in general, I’d say one of the most whorish in the world, like, that are some to save, but Brazil has a great number of whores all over the world and the greatest number of female users of porn hub and of cheating websites (of the places that were surveyed, at least).
          But I have observed a trend of how the culture ends up influencing a lot that used to be OK. Like, the same as with the US, but here it’s even more deprived. Like, videos with the level of depravity of Nick Minaj is a phenomenon quite recent in the US. On the other hand, we had videos like these 20 years before here in Brazil, so we are more “advanced” in this respect.
          And as to the other things you’ve said, I commend you. You see, now you’re talking about societally relevant topics. It seems that you have learned it quite well.

        • #77655
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          All this because I admitted I have a fetish.. people don’t react like judgemental shite faces on the dark web,but here they do.

        • #77665
          itsplaster
          Participant

          Goofy, you said you had a fetish on that other thread. This is more about “do women deserve rape.” I made this thread awhile back. Fetishes are fine. You’re fine. You’re a Russian spy. (Maybe?)

        • #77673
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          I thought about her being a shill or spy too, as who the fuck would give her name in this website and ask for videos that could be compromising, while having a picture at the same time. If that’s her in the picture she does have the looks of a spy, a very dangerous one by the way, which has a pretty face and persuasive lips that ‘hides’ an evil mind. ‘Hides’, as her face tells her mind is wicked.
          Anyway, I don’t know if that thing she wrote is her name, maybe she’s lying, at least just in this particular point. Nevertheless, shill or not shill, it doesn’t change the fact that she was distorting my words, and that I feel obliged to clarify, the spread of disinformation about myself. Nevertheless, we know that there are sick people here. Her pictures match her personality of a degenerate. Her writing seems legitimate, for they would be using spies with moderate grammar and English skills. Like, I wouldn’t expect a professional to write that way, or well, that could be part of the deceiving strategy. Anyway, I guess that she’s not a shill or spy. I am not sure, though.

        • #77666
          itsplaster
          Participant

          Oh you said your fetish here too. Ha Well I stand by the Russian spy comment.

        • #77669
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          Dethbyplaster.. lmao yea it was here..I think israelcunt was under the influence when he commented here but it was a turn on anyway.and undergroundweller keeps quoting us..😒😝

        • #77675
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          Just one more thing. You call me judgmental. But you are judgmental of me being judgmental. Think about that…

        • #77671
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          ‘All this because I admitted I have a fetish’. No, I’ll say it again, it was because you distorted my fucking words. You were the one who centered the subject around your fetishes, you self centered cock teaser.
          ‘people don’t react like judgemental shite faces on the dark web,but here they do’ Yeah, people who pay to masturbate to videos such as Daisy’s Destruction must be so cool, the epitomy of human evolution. They probably don’t say anything about you because they are sicker than you are or they are just being friendly to you cause you are a hottie cock teaser…

        • #77678
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          I’m judgemental over you being judgemental? Omg..whatever that’s too pety to even comment on.and yes it is my real name although not my whole name and why should I be afraid to post it along with my picture? Russia is big enough.and why on earth would a Russian spy waste time on this website…the world is always paranoid about us and the Russian spy joke comes along with the territory it doesn’t offend me at this point.undergroundweller you call me a degenerate but only a degenerate would sit at his computer and pass time insulting women as an only form of conversation.this will be my last comment to you..so I wish you well out there little bunny from the jungle.goodbye🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇

        • #77679
          itsplaster
          Participant

          I was kidding about the Russian spy thing lol. I wish I was a spy. Do you have tattoos on your thighs?

        • #77682
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          Yes..one on both front thighs one on left back thigh and calf.i have alot of tattoos.the worst was the one on my ribs..i did the ones on my front thighs.thats one of my jobs here is in a tattoo shop but I assure you never a spy..😝😛

        • #77684
          itsplaster
          Participant

          Ah, so the front of thighs makes sense as you were doing your own. My husband has a lot of tattoos. I think they look good on the right people. Yours suit you.

        • #77689
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          Thank you..yea my best friend has them everywhere and I think he looks really good with them.

        • #77681
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          ”only a degenerate would sit at his computer and pass time insulting women as an only form of conversation”. The fucking hell you’re talking about, I comment on many different subjects on BG. As I have shown before you haven’t read most of my comments as to be making such a claim. So, once again, you’re making false statements about me. And the judgmental comment was made with deth and not you in mind.

        • #77683
          itsplaster
          Participant

          You do judge and your judgements are negative. You could say that I’m sensitive about misogyny. It’s not a judgement. It’s true. I could be a bitch and say I’m not sensitive about it and your judging me, but I’m realistic. I’m pretty self-aware. You should be too. I’m not judging you. I’m telling the truth about some of your beliefs.

        • #77720
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          I don’t judge only women, men too. You should have known that by now. My judgments aren’t only negative, they can also be positive. It depends on what I see. There are some positive aspects I’ve seen on you, I guess. And I don’t know if you can call it a judgment, perhaps to call it an assessment would be better. As a matter of fact, you are the one that gets triggered here when you or another girl is called a cock teaser, and have plainly stated that you take it personally, so you if you take that criticizing cock teasing is personal, hitting you directly, it’s because you are one, which other factors seem to confirm. And I am self-aware, at least to some extent. Like, I recognize that I am not perfect and do on. I don’t remember ever telling you so…

        • #77734
          itsplaster
          Participant

          @undergroundweller My problem isn’t that you call girls cock teases – it’s that you think raping them is okay. It’s not the actual term. Damn, svarg has called me ten times worse than a cocktease and I laugh him off anymore. And like, I recognize that I am pretty much perfect and so on. But you can pretend I’m a shady vixen if it gets you off. I don’t care anymore.

        • #77735
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          ”it’s that you think raping them is okay” Once again, I haven’t said that. If you play Russian roulette, do you deserve to die? If you fuck a dirty nigger without a condom, do you deserve to get AIDS? If you go into a shanty town with lots of posh jewels, Italian shoes and a golden watch, do you deserve to be robbed? Once again, I don’t know if deserve is the appropriate choice of word for these situations. But you see, if you partake in a round of Russian roulette with a six shooter and a bullet, you must understand that you have a risk of 16.6% of dying. You must understand there is a high risk of losing your life in that situation in exchange for an adrenaline rush. If you go into a shanty town with bling, there is a greater chance to be mugged compared with if you went to a posh shopping mall or stayed at home. The same if you hit the highway compared with if you stayed at home and so on.
          ”I recognize that I am pretty much perfect and so on” This phrase explains a lot. You have great pride and a great sense of entitlement. So when women who are cock teasers are exposed for the lower value they have, being more of cum dumpsters than anything, you get personally offended as you are a prideful entitled cock teaser yourself, who thinks that you are perfect, and don’t admit that as a cock teaser you may be less valuable than other women. Don’t take this as a personal attack, it’s just an analysis.

        • #77741
          itsplaster
          Participant

          They brought it on themselves. That’s close to deserve. Close enough to call you lowdown. The I’m perfect thing was bitchy sarcasm to your opposite statement. If you think I meant it, fine. But wow, how can anybody begin to think they are perfect? Call me a cock teaser all you want. I’m done caring. I know me, my friends know me, my family knows me – their opinion matters. Yours doesn’t. You’re a faceless stranger.
          One question: How is a tease also a cum dumpster? Doesn’t tease mean not fucking someone? After all the hoopla, you change the definition. They wouldn’t be raped if they were putting out.

        • #77749
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          So, you get what mean. Anyway, if my opinion doesn’t matter why the hell do you take it personally, as you have clearly stated? Cut out this doubletalking. You are the one who got triggered on a personal level for me stating my opinions on a comment section for everyone to see. You attacked me personally with name calling and threatened me when you ran out of arguments, as if you were intent on pounding your way into my head. The fuck is that. And I don’t understand your sarcasm on the ‘perfect’ thing. I was being serious. I hope that you didn’t take me to say that I am perfect and are distorting my words, once again…

        • #77750
          itsplaster
          Participant

          Read this carefully. Your rape apologists shit bothers me. You calling me names doesn’t. It did at first as it was just a bullshit assumption. Then I realized you were making this about me being a cock teaser and changing the original subject. What a surprise. At that point, I decided not to care about your name-calling; probably a distraction tactic anyway.
          My original argument stands – you act as if some women deserve rape. Yeah, deserve. Your comments have said as much and I won’t downplay it again. That’s what I care about. I got side-lined a minute with the ad hominem attack. That was my fault. However, that has been dealt with as I no longer care to defend the assumptions of a random internet user. I do get offended (triggered, if you like that term) when you defend rape because I am a woman (in the cases I’ve had issue with, it has been women so that is not sexist.) It could happen to me. Insult to injury would be someone like you deciding that I “was asking for it.”
          What more is there to discuss? You plainly stated that yes, if women put themselves in harm’s way, they should expect trouble. You don’t say a crime was committed. So we know how you feel. You have nothing to defend because you agree with the accusation. If you want to re-word or back-peddle, call me names, distort my original intent or any other nonsense; just don’t. We disagree. We will continue to disagree. I think of you as the least respectable person on this site. At least others are obvious jerks and don’t try to hide it. I think you are deceptive and shady and that makes a fine debater but not a person to respect or be influenced by. Just my opinion and you can easily ignore it. Do you really care what I think of you?

        • #77765
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          “Your rape apologists shit bothers me” So, I am a rape apologist, no, you are the one who wants to redefine the meaning of the word rape. If a properly dressed girl minding her own business is attacked, be it on the street (in a dangerous place she has to go through) or at her home, that’s rape. A grave crime. But other examples of cock teasers going around throwing signs that they are sexually available to every man that crosses their path is different, as I have said different times, I am not going to repeat myself.
          “My original argument stands – you act as if some women deserve rape. Yeah, deserve” You didn’t use the word deserve for when someone playing Russian roulette who dies (you said it was close to it), yet, you take what I say about women getting raped as they deserving it. It just shows again how you magnify this subject illogically, with no base parameters.
          Ad hominem attack, no, it wasn’t an attack, it was a description, and I gave a logical backing to it and tied its relevance to the debate. Calling someone a disgusting piece of shit, that’s an ad hominem attack, as I have never seen a piece of shit that can write, have you? Therefore, I conclude that you keep trying to push your view unconditionally, which is evident when you can’t use logical arguments and resort to attacks, deviates from the main subject and/or use stupid name calling and so on.
          “I think of you as the least respectable person on this site. At least others are obvious jerks and don’t try to hide it.” Hide what? I’ve stated my opinions and how I feel, to a certain extent of course, as I mind my privacy as most people do, even though there’s no picture, real name of myself and so on. There are people who want to torture kids here on BG and so on, and you equal me to them. It just shows for me that you have a great sense of entitlement and that my opinions hurt you on a deep level personally, as you have yourself said. And yes, I guess I care about what you think of me, as I want to know what you’re thinking, as it’s the case with anybody else I come across(moreover, who doesn’t want to have the power to read minds, hehe), but if you want to keep thinking that way, I can only say that I shrug my shoulders. Just don’t distort my fucking words as you keep doing over and over and over and over…
          If you think my arguments are weak, go on and retort them logically. I am not here to preach, but to debate. And I try to go right down to business. Threats, name calling and so on are empty and dumb down the debate.

        • #77767
          itsplaster
          Participant

          @undergroundweller You just described everything you do. You have an issue with projecting your own behavior and seeing it in other people. In this case, me. Be careful throwing around the word “entitlement.” Can you get more entitled than that?

        • #77801
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          I don’t go around cock teasing, and I use far less name calling than the average, so I guess that your point is not valid…

        • #77755
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          The word “deserved” maybe shouldn’t be used but you have to admit that some girls do actually put themselves in a position to be raped.when I say this I’m more or less talking about girls that are prostitutes walking streets getting into cars with strange men.but just becouse she is dressed provocative at a club or party doesn’t give guys the right to rape her..however I see it all the time at clubs where girls come dressed that way then get angry when guys make advances towards them .after all isn’t that why girls wear sexy clothing? Hoping to catch the attention of guys? I guess we only want attention from a certain type of guy and not all of them.im sure you’ve been in a situation where some disgusting guy comes up to conversate and you’re only thought is “please god make it go away”… hahahaha….😂😂😂😂😂😂

        • #77766
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          It’s natural for men to take an active part on courtship. So it’s natural some will make advances even if you are properly dressed now and then, and some may even try to push far or too far. But if you go to a place in the uniform of a whore, sending signals that you are available, you can expect to be treated accordingly, that is, that men, on average, will be more direct, if you will, with you. Moreover, I have heard time and again of women complaining that some men lack attitude and that they like men with attitude, and of course that are also actions that speak louder than words…

        • #77704
          FromRussiawithlove
          Participant

          Tartar? Lol..I’m of Serbian decent and there’s many many more Serbian Russians here in Moscow.

        • #77713
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          Ahhh, you do look Serbian. This explains your looks. You still may have some blood from the steppes, some Turk, though. I find Serbian women to be the prettiest I’ve seen, alongside Hungarian and Pole ones.

        • #77716
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          I didn’t know that they were sick in their minds, though, although some of them looked kind of nasty to me, kind of like you…

    • #77617
      bertdanger
      Participant

      Hey Underground/death by plaster, you and the author should just go and get a hotel room. JEEZUZ Christos! Your exchange has got to be a new BG favorite if there ever was one! Seriously, it looks like you two might have some real chemistry!

      • #77621
        itsplaster
        Participant

        Bert – I’d rather fuck a chainsaw but thanks for your input. haha

    • #77705
      Arttu
      Participant

      This guide also helps me, though I’m a male. I have characteristics of a “pussy-teaser” but only in a way I dress. I almost never go to the dance floor and the bar I go the most often doesn’t even have one. I really need to up my game on sending signals or I’m never getting raped. Do you have any tips on how I could improve my chances in a regular conversation?

      • #77709
        FromRussiawithlove
        Participant

        Arttu: the only men I’ve ever had the urge to rape were young priests,and policemen.not guys in bars,so maybe try buying costumes idk.

        • #77710
          Arttu
          Participant

          I fear that I might get too big of an urge to rape children if I were to buy a priest costume. A police uniform is the way to go for me. I’ll just shave my beard but leave my moustache to gain some credibility. Before purchasing any outfits I should go and visit my insurance company because I’ve heard that you rarely walk out of those places without feeling violated.

    • #77711
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      Lmao😂😂😂😂

    • #77712
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      Advice?
      Pfft, look, there ain’t no shit a motherfucker can say to help anybody’s fucking ass, on the real.
      Aight, the answers you seek, are within man.
      Unless like, you’re legit fucked as fuck, then there ain’t no helping your ass hahah.

      • #77719
        FromRussiawithlove
        Participant

        Israelcunt: last time you commented on this post you didn’t remember the next day,are you under alcohol or drug influence again? Either way you have good potential of being a Sir with all that dirty talk.😂😝😉

    • #77721
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      Tssh bitch, ya’ll already fucking know!
      I’m always under the fucking influence when I ain’t working hahah.
      But also, I’m Aussie as fuck and from the fucking gutter sooo, blame the Australian derro cunt in me hahah.

      • #77723
        FromRussiawithlove
        Participant

        Lol..I don’t drink too much,but I do like MDMA and marikhuana 😝😝

    • #77725
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      @isrealkeyes

      Fuckin hippy cunttt hahah. 😉
      I’m into that fucking crystal meth and alcohol shit, alcohol mainly, just like now, but fuuuckk, crystal meth is always a good fucking addition to a fucking alcohol binge hahah.
      Fuuuck, I’m making myself want some of that crystal shit right fucking now, but fuck, fucking responsiblities man hahah, fuuuck.

    • #77726
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      Lol nooo I’ve never tried meth and never will I’m scared of that shit.you should stop meth and start kokaine instead 😝😝😛

    • #77727
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      Here it isn’t meth it’s krokodil and the shit makes people into maniacs.

    • #77729
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      Pfft, ice (crystal meth) ain’t shit, just the best high you can ever fucking have hahah.
      Fuck coke, heard it ain’t fucking shit compared to ice.
      Aye,fuck that krokodil shit, cunts are better off fucking slamming (injecting) that flakka shit hahah.

      • #77730
        FromRussiawithlove
        Participant

        Never heard of that drug but I’m sure I wouldn’t try it.im happy with marikhuana.

    • #77731
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      Yeahhh, fuck that flakka shit imo, mainly because I ain’t into fucking tripping the fuck out hahah.
      But aye, each to their own, ain’t no hate.

      • #77771
        FromRussiawithlove
        Participant

        Israelcunt: you are so crazy!!but a really sweet guy I hope to communicate with you more and maybe Skype..I love the way you talk to me so dirty and with such authority 😉😉😊😊😘😘😘

    • #77739
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      Some fucking crazy shit? hahah
      This is fucking bestgore after fucking all hahah.

    • #77773
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      @israelkeyes

      Well fuck, if you wanna fucking talk to me more, just fucking talk to me more hahah.

      • #77774
        FromRussiawithlove
        Participant

        @israelcunt: yea I think I do want to talk to you more.you are crazzy as fuck but your attitude is priceless 😊😊😊😘😘

    • #77775
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      Yeah fuckyeah.
      Aye, talk to any cunt from the fucking poorer parts of fucking Australia, they’re all fucking basically like me, even the bitches over this fucking way fucking talk like me and shit hahah.

      • #77779
        FromRussiawithlove
        Participant

        Israelcunt: I really like it when you talk dirty as fuck to me and calling me a cunt wanting that dick while being choked the fuck out 😊😊😊😘😘😘😘😘😘

    • #77781
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      You little fucking freak, I knew you would hahah. 😉

    • #77803
      itsplaster
      Participant

      As some of you may or may not know, I wrote this as a reaction to comments about raping women. I don’t agree that clothing, attitude or even telling someone you want to have sex with them later (and then you don’t) makes raping a woman okay. However, there are commenters who do. If you manage to read through this craziness, you’ll see where I was accused of changing the definition of rape. I wanted to post what I define rape as and you can decide if I have redefined it.
        – unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will of another
      That’s what I think it is. Cat calling or butt-groping, NO, those things are not rape. That’s a feminazi thing and they are changing the definition. I agree with the definition above that has meant rape as long I can remember. Just clarifying that I’m not saying groping a girl is raping her. Obviously, it’s not.

      • #77810
        FromRussiawithlove
        Participant

        Hahahaha!! I feel bad for the person that tries to read thru all this craziness…this forum just got fucking flipped inside out😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 nothing but insults,disagreements,and fantasy fucking 😂😂😂😂😂

      • #77814
        undergroundweller
        Participant

        OK, I was wrong in what I said about you distorting the definition of rape. But my point continues that there are different degrees of rape, due to different degrees of force or/and coercion used to carry out the act, and as the context is different from case to case.
        I commend you for using logic and a good source (a dictionary) to defend yourself this time.

        • #77817
          itsplaster
          Participant

          I don’t understand why there’s this “confusion” as to what is wrong. If someone says “No, I don’t want to have sex with you” – that’s it. There is no grey area. If a person goes ahead and has sex with the person after they say No, that’s the definition of rape. Why is that difficult to understand? And that’s an actual question. Why is that difficult to understand?

        • #77822
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          And I thought you might like to know
          When a girl is meaning yes she says no…

          It’s not that simple deth, I am surprised that you don’t know that…

        • #77830
          itsplaster
          Participant

          Then thanks, Weller, for educating me.
          If I’d known it was as easy as just listening to a 40-year-old song, then by golly I wouldn’t need to waste my time trying to understand rapists and their apologists. I just forgot it was kewl to skweeze and pleeze … anybody you want. Apparently.
          I can’t commend you for your chosen source.
          But I can guarantee if it comes to pass that someone thinks I mean yes when I say No and I have the means, he won’t live to hear me repeat it. At least, being American, I have that going for me. I guess these other disposable “cum dumpsters” will just have to take it.
          Disgusting.

        • #77866
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          I used the song to be direct, for it just expresses what I have seen and read over the subject. Of girls that say no but after a while give the most passionate kiss. If you want a better source, there’s a scientific explanation for this that I read by Havelock Ellis, that modesty (as is also physical struggle) is part of the process of courtship. The song just illustrates it in terms that are simpler, as you seem not to always understand when I use a more complex explanation…
          But OK, I understand that there are women who really don’t want to be bothered, but words are not always enough to tell. So while at times they are clear, sometimes it can be pretty difficult to read women (and I can tell you that the uniform of a whore send s the message: I am available). Granted, there are men who are pretty insistent and bothersome (as there are men who are sick in their minds too, I hope that I made it clear to you that I recognize this fact), but I can say that insistence pays off at times. And not only for women, heck, it’s often difficult to read other men too, and I am not only talking about a sexual context here (it’s important to consider also that people can be in a state of doubt). Anyway, laws set in stone cannot account for the intricacies of personal interactions, and while you can classify a type of interaction into a category to have a base parameter, still, every case has its peculiarities.
          And it doesn’t matter that the song was written 40, or that Ellis wrote his books more than 100 years ago, as these go deep into the human nature, and that hasn’t changed significantly in the meantime…

        • #77966
          itsplaster
          Participant

          You’re exhausting. I have no idea if you are sincerely defending your position (which has been made so unclear by now, it’s ridiculous) or just determined to continue arguing.

          You’re describing things leading up to rape or sex because at that point, it’s not clear. You’re describing when people are engaged in making out and women “give in.” That’s not rape. Do you know what rape is? Only feminists call unwanted advances rape. It’s when the advances don’t stop that matters.

          My point will remain the same over and over, if you force yourself on someone – not persistence, insistence, being pushy – if you force your dick in her, if she is dressed like a nun or a stripper – it’s underserved rape in both cases.

          The perfect example of what I mean is the rape scene in the movie “The Accused.” It actually describes exactly what I’m talking about. Jodie Foster is doing EVERYTHING you consider a cock teaser’s behavior. But the actual rape shows her clearly fighting with everything she has to stop it; verbally and physically. You know, about 100 comments ago, I should’ve said that the bar scene in “The Accused” is a the perfect depiction of what I call wrong, a crime and killswitch on “she was asking for it.”

        • #77972
          itsplaster
          Participant

          Took me awhile to find the scene. Then I found it on a porn site …
          Anyway, this scene shows a cock teaser and a victim of rape.
          http://motherless.com/292AA43

        • #77979
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          It seems that you cannot distinguish between shades of gray, only between black and white. What I mean is that, yes, it was a rape scene, I agree with that. But this is not the worst rape case scenario imaginable, but it’s a complicated scene, nevertheless, specially because it was a gang rape. I am not going to put all the blame on her, but she has a significant responsibility for what happened, while, the guys are still much to blame. But OK, she was playing pinball, perhaps overtly happy. The other girl realized that she was enticing the other guys with her movements (whether they were intentional or not), but she dismissed the warning. Then, a guy clearly tried to make an advance, which she refused and he respected, that’s OK. Then, the other guy started to flirt with her and while not much receptive at the beginning, she seemed to be enjoying it as the dialogue progressed, so much so, that she started to make a very sexual dance for him, to cock tease him if you will. If she wasn’t interested she shouldn’t have done that. Even the other woman realized where it was leading to and went away. Nevertheless, in the middle of sexually ”thirsty men”, she starts to make an overt sexual dance (granted, her clothes were not really bad) signalling that she is available, cock teasing all men in the place (even though it was directed at the guy, but she was in a public place nonetheless, with all those men, and those aren’t the type of guys from whom you’d expect self-control), and is receptive when the guy joins in. By that time the guys were turned on, specially the one dancing with her. Then, at one point she reverses. Yes, the guy should/could have stopped, but she wasn’t really clear up until close before the act. The guy was wrong in doing that and perhaps above all not using a condom and so on, but what she had done to entice him, playing with fire if you will, diminishes the gravity of the case, in my opinion. He was in an altered state of mind which she had been the catalyst factor. For me the worst part is when it turns into a gang bang, for even her cock teasing dance was directed at one guy, despite she still having some responsibility(as she was a chicken in the middle of foxes flashing her juicy tasty looking body at them). Nonetheless, I find that the gang rape was mainly the guys’ fault. Still, after all, I don’t consider this case (or for a better term, enactment) as bad as a dark alley rape scenario. I don’t see everything as being either black or white, for I understand that each case has it’s peculiarities. It’d be the same as to say that serial killers, the likes of Richard Ramirez and Ted Bundy are as bad as gang members who kill only other gang members but leave innocent people alone or that these are cases are like a father who’s killed someone who was raping his infant child and so on…

        • #77981
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          Now, go on. Instead of declaring that you are victorious, concentrate your energies in rebutting what I said,which by the way, you used the straw man tactic and didn’t say a single word about my reply. Or are you going to say that a dark alley scenario is the same as the one seen above? That black is the same as gray.

      • #77982
        Empty soul
        Participant

        I have just finished my first bottle of wine for tonight before moving on to the second and am getting somewhat desperate in my attempts to alleviate the boredom therefore I too shall enter this argument despite my misgivings about being able to penetrate this back and forth madness.

        From what I could glean from the above undergroundweller emphasises human nature as his point of contention and therefore places the point of focus on whatever it was that stimulated that innate behaviour. He further argues that rape is most definitely black and white when no such stimulation took place(I.e. no cock teasing occurred) but becomes somewhat blurred and even undeserving of sympathy when cock teasing behaviour(revealing clothing, flirty behaviour etc) is perceived to have taken place.

        dethbyplaster on the other hand emphasises societal rules and norms as her point of contention and therefore places the point of focus on equality and legal rights in general. She further argues that sexual activity must always be consensual regardless of any actual(or perceived) consent that had, or is perceived to have, taken place previously.

        My conclusion, dethbyplaster is right in that women have the legal right to dress how they want and even flirt without having to spread their legs at the end of the day because no one is legally entitled to sex after all. However, it is also true that certain behaviour does indeed bring more attention to oneself and therefore those who do not give a shit about rules and laws(criminal scum) and those too drunk to care otherwise will gravitate towards those that standout(or appear willing) making such people more at risk of attack.

        Legally speaking then dethbyplaster is right but undergroundweller is also right in his understanding of the innate nature of the human being that exists outside of that societal framework. I guess the end game scenario then will always be that those who obey the rules and laws will follow them and treat women in kind and those who do not will attack and rape them.

        There is a duality to be understood then because despite the many good people that exists there will always be those who will attack and rape you regardless of the rules and laws of your society and the odds of you being a victim to that number do indeed increase the more you standout.

        How one approaches the risks of these odds then is up to each individual, nevertheless whatever happens is addressable via the rules and laws of the society in question.

        • #78046
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          That’s good. Your reply shows me that I have made myself clear in many of my points. You do understand that I place my focus on human nature as to discuss laws. I don’t know if laws can be made disregarding human nature. Also, there’s the state of mind. If someone who is mentally ill gets away easily with murder why not someone who has had his state of mind altered by a cock teaser should not get away with rape. Even when someone is justifiably in a state of rage there tends to be a more lenient sentence. And I think that’s not bad. Moreover, men and women are genetically, physically different from one another (and behave differently too), having a different chromosome (X and Y), so I guess that the law could account for some differences, specially in situations where the difference is accentuated for our actions revolve around these differences (specially with regards to sex). That is, if taken to an extreme equality leads to things such as affirmative action, for it’s the dictatorship of equality, even though it nowadays is done more to the benefit of women, or at least what they think is to their benefit. So I guess that laws and, even more importantly than laws, decisions in court could be made on that account (for equality does not exist), otherwise wheat and maize should have equal rights and we wouldn’t be able to eat them anymore, after all, they are living beings just like us.
          “My conclusion, dethbyplaster is right in that women have the legal right to dress how they want” So why don’t we go around naked as African tribesmen do. You may be a proponent of nudity, but our society has created norms and clothes are a part of them, and this is in great part to repress sexiness and cock teasing, if you will (just look at those muslim women to see a great example of this). Moreover, clothes have a symbolic significance, as the case of uniforms make it clear to us. The joke in the video I put explains it in a more direct way, if you will. Whether you are a proponent of nudity or not it’s another subject and a complicated one. That’s why I always talk about other factors combined with clothing, for there is innocent nudity, if you will, just like that of a child. And if you think it’s OK to do what you want in public, as long as it doesn’t cause direct harm to others (although going naked in public does have an effect in altering the state of mind of others), I presume that you think that it’s OK for us to masturbate in public, take a shit wherever we want, like in the subway or in the middle of shopping mall or park a car in middle of a residential neighbourhood with the stereo bursting out loud at 2 o’clock in the morning. You can even listen to music at 2 o’clock in the morning, but it has to be in a low volume as to not disturb others. And don’t tell me that you can just look away or cover your eyes, as you can also just put a plug in your ears as to avoid listening to the loud music. Anyway, it’s complicated.

        • #78418
          Empty soul
          Participant

          @undergroundweller

          “Also, there’s the state of mind. If someone who is mentally ill gets away easily with murder why not someone who has had his state of mind altered by a cock teaser should not get away with rape. Even when someone is justifiably in a state of rage there tends to be a more lenient sentence. And I think that’s not bad“.

          The mentally ill have a provable, recorded history of illness and therefore a track record of how it affects them and manifests itself which does create some leniency, however they rarely get away with murder though. They still get their liberty taken away but via mental asylums rather than prisons.

          The leniency applied to killers who acted in a state of rage is a different matter though and comes under sentencing laws(murder/manslaughter and all the various grades of it).

          Cock-teasing behaviour and states of mind is up for debate though because some Muslims for example consider women who show their faces in public to be “cock-teasers” deserving of rape and since we live in multiracial multicultural societies anyone at any time could be raped for various reasons ranging from walking around completely naked to not covering their faces or for simply just making eye contact with the opposite sex.

          My point being that people cannot just go around murdering and raping because of a professed change in their “state of mind” as that would lead to anarchy and chaos and would create a future world much like a Mad Max movie. In fact if man had not created ordered and “civilised”(if you can call us that) societies we would still be living in the stone age because the very foundation of growth is stability and cohesiveness.

          Your arguments about laws and equality acts being used for preferential treatment instead of equality I have no problem with as they are clearly being misused in the pursuit of agendas. However, just because these laws and how they are used are shitty doesn’t mean people can further corrupt them by adding their own variations as well as that just creates further inequality(in this case inequality of punishment).

          Of course like you said, true equality does not exist and never has. Nevertheless, our societies still work in mind with the principle that it does because people will only organise and work in cohesion when society appears to be fair and history is littered with examples of what happens when the curtains get pulled apart and the people find out that it is not.

          To address your last point,

          “My conclusion, dethbyplaster is right in that women have the legal right to dress how they want” So why don’t we go around naked as African tribesmen do. You may be a proponent of nudity, but our society has created norms and clothes are a part of them, and this is in great part to repress sexiness and cock teasing, if you will (just look at those muslim women to see a great example of this). Moreover, clothes have a symbolic significance, as the case of uniforms make it clear to us“.

          Actually, clothes were first invented to keep us warm and to protect us against rough environments and only later did they become standard uniforms for mingling into society. This is also the reason why the African tribesmen never invented clothing because they never had a reason to due to their year round hot climate and lack of migratory behaviour due mostly to them having abundant food sources where they were.

          It was organised religion that changed nakedness into something sexual, before then nakedness was fully accepted and even beloved as one trip to any art gallery will show you. As per the rules of our western societies today, you can wear any style of clothing you want so long as the genitals are covered(and for women the breasts partly covered as well) whilst out in public. These are made up rules of course but they are rules with a purpose, the original purpose of keeping us warm in the cold weather and footwear so that we do not cut our feet on jaggy surfaces and it also prevents us from catching diseases via external contamination entering our open orifices(biological and superficial).

          We also wear clothes now because it is a long time custom and has been so for over a thousand years. The wearing of clothes though is only expected and enforced within open public spaces, you can be naked anywhere else you like and there are also many nudist beaches and events you can attend etc.

          None of this has any real relation to rape of course other than how the would be rapist chooses to justify their actions because women get raped in India and elsewhere whilst wearing full body garments that show no flesh. You can argue then how someone’s attire made them stand out to the rapist but all that does is describe how they chose their target, any attribution of that to the actual act of rape is just a justification after the fact.

          To put it more crudely, just because your cock is hard doesn’t mean you can just shove it into the first woman that grabbed your attention just as any woman wet between the legs doesn’t get to just come along and grab your cock. You will also find that this agreed to behaviour has been common law for thousands of years wherever human beings have gathered in number and is even observed in African and south American tribes that had no contact with the outside world, rape was always the weapon of the invading tribe with courtship rituals being favoured as the behaviour for their own tribes.

          To conclude, rape in it’s purest form is just a bit of what human nature requires(sex and aggression) but just taken to the extremes. However, the desire to protect ones own and to prevent invaders from taking what doesn’t belong to them is also human nature as well so if you argue that rape is ok because it is natural to man we must also accept that killing the rapist is also ok as well and for much the same reasons because in a world without any rules or laws(because they are man made) life becomes dog-eat-dog wherein everyone’s life is forfeit.

          We choose to live in societies with rules then because it grants us a higher chance of survival and therefore a better standard of living and within that society we do our best to prevent greedy rich people from enslaving the masses via heavily slanted and exploitative laws and regulations. Still, if rules and laws are not your thing and you wish to live life in a slightly more primitive way, in-line with what human nature intended, there are plenty of other places on this planet that will allow you to do that should you decide to go live there. However, you should have already learned about what life is truly like in such places as they are featured daily on this website.

          Survival of the strongest/cruellest or rules and regulations, that is your choice at the end of the day.

        • #78486
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          “The mentally ill have a provable, recorded history of illness and therefore a track record of how it affects them and manifests itself which does create some leniency, however they rarely get away with murder though. They still get their liberty taken away but via mental asylums rather than prisons.”
          Men have a provable, recorded history of getting turned on by females, specially by body parts such as legs, boobs and ass or by dances which emulate copulation and highlight these body parts, therefore a track record of how these affect men and generate certain manifestations should create some leniency …
          Our laws aren’t equal for men and women, just look at child supporting and conscription (even in countries which have it for both sexes there is a gap, like in Israel it seems it’s only 2 years for women and 3 for men). That’s because society expects different roles and functions for the different sexes, which is in turn based on the natural inclination of each sex. I agree that the law should be more flexible than it usually is, though, as to account for odd cases, but generally laws are made based on generalizations so that’s why they are written as to encompass people in general. In my opinion the judges and the jury should account for odd cases as to make things fair, that is, the written law should just serve as a parameter (as oral law and moral principles predate written law, a common law). Nowadays roles are being redefined, hence laws are being redefined, that is, so far it seems only to the benefit of women while many of those which fuck up men continue in place.
          “Of course like you said, true equality does not exist and never has. Nevertheless, our societies still work in mind with the principle that it does because people will only organise and work in cohesion when society appears to be fair and history is littered with examples of what happens when the curtains get pulled apart and the people find out that it is not.”
          So you think that a traditional society, like it’s been throughout most of history in civilized society, where women play the role of the nurturer, of the mother, and the men of the provider, of father and laborer, is not fair, and that both should be equal. I guess that the concept of justice is being mixed up with the one of equality here, as many SJWs think to be the case.
          “None of this has any real relation to rape of course other than how the would be rapist chooses to justify their actions because women get raped in India and elsewhere whilst wearing full body garments that show no flesh. You can argue then how someone’s attire made them stand out to the rapist but all that does is describe how they chose their target, any attribution of that to the actual act of rape is just a justification after the fact.”
          I recognize these cases, and that’s why I have said that there are different levels of rape…
          And as to your point with clothes I agree that their primal function was for protecting from the elements. But they’ve taken different meanings with time as culture develop. Clothes signal status, personal preference, occupation, etc. Culture has also evolved, entirely or partially as you pointed out through religion, as to make we cover our shame, if you will. Like it or not, this culture is still much prevalent in our society and civilization. Moreover, much of the religions have a purpose in their teachings as to serve as codes of conduct for society, such as the ten commandments. In any case, as society stands now, the more skin women show the more of a whore they are gonna be taken for. Not only that, women who have been raised in such a society are also fully conscious of this, that’s why you will see them showing more skin (and with more make up) when going to a party on the look out for men than on their everyday lives. So most of them are not innocent, they know what the uniform that they are wearing means.
          “Survival of the strongest/cruellest or rules and regulations, that is your choice at the end of the day.”
          I agree with your point on laws, but disagree on your conclusion on me. For society to advance as a whole there needs to be justice, where you will gather the fruits of your labor, both in quantity and quality. This doesn’t imply in equality as you can see, as we have different capabilities and so on. When these factors are not recognized, you end up with a welfare state and so on. This does not also imply that a parasite should be rooted out as to make society function at its most.

        • #78490
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          @empty-soul
          I forgot to tag you, my reply is on the forum.
          And to complement, a society that recognizes differences between people, men and women, for instance, letting them play their roles according to their natural inclinations is a more efficient and successful one.

        • #78501
          itsplaster
          Participant

          Weller, you should have left it alone. Empty Soul shredded you. I don’t say that because it’s what I hoped he would say. He said things that are fundamentally true and reach much farther than me and you. Your stance is, some rape should just be allowed. You just think you’re entitled by some rule system you made up in your head that you can fuck random women. The very idea that you call me “entitled” on a regular basis is laughable. No amount of your fighting for the right to rape will make it okay. Just stop.

        • #78505
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          Again, fabrications, distortions.
          “Empty Soul shredded you” Very in depth commentary you have on the opinions expressed on the debate. Now I know why you voted for Trump, probably his arguments of “this is very very bad folks” sounded very convincing to you.
          It’s interesting how you cheer on Empty soul, it’s a pity that it is the most you can do as you can’t reach his level of argumentation while debating.
          “Your stance is, some rape should just be allowed”. I am going to repeat that the punishment should be administered according to the gravity of the crime. Otherwise it is unfair and leads to tyranny. In cases such as those women in India that empty soul pointed out, a harsh punishment, in others such as we’ve discussed, not so much.
          “You just think you’re entitled by some rule system you made up in your head that you can fuck random women” And where did I say that. I understand the process of courtship, as I’ve said before and don’t go out hitting on everyone I see.
          Actually, I am, or at least used to be, respectful of women and held them in high regards, higher than men, as I was indoctrinated by propaganda which vilifies men and upholds women as if they were superior beings, heck, there is propaganda even claiming that women are more intelligent despite the fact that 99% of scientists and inventors throughout history are men and men created civilization as it is today. So, once I took time as to make and analyze observations and think in scientific terms the cloak came down. The eyes don’t lie, and that’s probably because you hate the videos of women and the gender studies section of BG, as what is shown goes against your privilege…
          Now go back to your RAP battles or to showing your body, these seem to be activities that are more adequate for you…

        • #78512
          itsplaster
          Participant

          I totally know I’m talking like “cool, man, whatever.” I don’t care anymore. Eloquence is great but when it’s completely useless, why bother? Of course, I’m not as well-spoken as Empty Soul – don’t claim to be. Not striving to be. What does that change about the debate? You feel special because you made fun of me? (personal attack lol)

          You make yourself look way too concerned with me by going to my posts and making little comments. Hey, you don’t like me? Don’t check out my gym post; don’t nose through the fun we are having with our rap post. What do you care? Sorry if I like to laugh and have fun. You can do your thing and not worry about me. It doesn’t flatter me. But thanks for getting off on my arm and abs – ooh so indecent.

          You understand courtship? Ha! Nobody is SO interested in proving that some rape is okay unless they have a personal interest in the topic and you are fixated on rape being okay. Issues. Monumental ones.

          I’m going to go have fun and I won’t be eloquent or serious and I don’t care.

          Why do you?

        • #78520
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          Eloquence has nothing to do with it, it’s the weight of the arguments and logic. Your shitty gym post was where it shouldn’t be, and your shitty rap post I don’t give a fuck.
          Rape interests me, yeah it does, but remember that this specific topic was started by you in the first place…

        • #78524
          itsplaster
          Participant

          Report to Mark and if he deems it inappropriate, he can remove it. I posted 2 other bodybuilding posts in Health and it was not an issue. If this is, I have no problem with him deleting the post.

          Any other posts “you don’t care about” you want to bring up?

          Anyway, hit Mark up and I’m sure he’ll address your problem. Thanks for your time.

        • #78498
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          *a parasite should be taken out

        • #78503
          Empty soul
          Participant

          @undergroundweller

          First, lets define rape as much of the argument is being mounted on it. Rape is when you attack and forcibly have sex with someone, it is also rape if you put drugs into someone’s drink and then have sex with them when they are unconscious. However, drunken people having sex with each other and then not being able to remember much of what happened or even if they consented or not due to drink related memory loss is not rape in my opinion because the necessary details that one would need to ascertain such matters is missing therefore just as one cannot prove that sex occurred without their consent they also cannot prove that it didn’t.

          To conclude then, rape in my opinion is a forceful action that ignores free will at all levels.

          Now, on to your argument.

          Like I have said time and time again society is like a pendulum in that it swings from one extreme to another based upon whatever is the current social/cultural norms and because the extremes is where you will find the most social, political and religious resistance momentum tends to always drag it towards the opposite.

          In the above, if society is too right wing the left wing will gain traction and power. Equally then, if society is too left wing the population will push to the right because most people are neutral by default and fall within left and right wing politics depending upon the subject in question.

          Right now then the western world is too left wing and this manifests itself as craziness devoid of logic with the emphasis being placed on “liberal righteousness” thus depicting all those in favour as Mahatma Gandhi and all those in opposition as Adolf Hitler.

          You see my point undergroundweller, you are pushing too far right hence you will bring about the restricting left you hate so much.

          Anyway, what is wrong with doing things in the usual manner?. You do not have to club a random woman over the head like a caveman in order to get sex, just get talking to them and if they like you they will let you know which more often than not leads to sex. If however every woman you ever meet appears to dislike you and won’t spread for you the problems probably lie on your end.

          To borrow a fitting quote,
          “If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you’re the asshole.”

        • #78511
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          @Empty-soul Right, I mostly agree with your definition, or to better put it, illustration of what is rape. I also agree with what you said of society being like a pendulum. I call it cycles, there are economic, social, political cycles and so on.
          “You see my point undergroundweller, you are pushing too far right hence you will bring about the restricting left you hate so much.” Pushing too far, where? I don’t get it. I think that a rapist can even be executed in extreme cases, it depends on the case. Like, if he has HIV and forces his way into a woman in a dark alley knowing how he can fuck up with her health. But I recognize that each case is different, and that boundaries can be blurry, with some cases being barely considered rape. Only because I demand more flexibility I am extremist, no, it’s lack of flexibility that leads to extremism, such as giving the same punishment to a dark alley rape scenario or when a drunk cock teaser doesn’t know exactly if she wanted to have sex with the guy she spent hours flirting with.
          And when did I say that I had the intention of going around pointing knives at women raping them? What made you think that?

        • #78570
          Empty soul
          Participant

          @undergroundweller

          I am not disagreeing with you on your arguments about slanted social, political rules and laws that give preferential treatment to certain groups(in this case women) over others because you are quite right in that these issues do exist. What I am arguing against then is your position that all of this somehow justifies forcing yourself onto and into women.

          Gay men for example receive preferential treatment in much of society nowadays as well and yet you probably wouldn’t be arguing for the right to be able to insert yourself into them so I think the argument is less about socio-political factors then and more about the desire for sexual redress because you believe that women should be subservient to man and fulfill all of mans needs because that in your opinion is what nature intended hence why you focus on the man‘s state of mind as the precursor for sexual activity.

          The reason why much of your argument falls at the first hurdle then is because it is an emotional argument for the most part but dressed up as a logical one. In other words, you are trying to intellectualise the innate desire for sexual satisfaction in order to justify the means by which it can be gotten so as to lessen the chances of those desires going unfulfilled and you have done this by arguing and then concluding that women should spread for you based upon social political factors etc.

          You state for example,

          “So you think that a traditional society, like it’s been throughout most of history in civilized society, where women play the role of the nurturer, of the mother, and the men of the provider, of father and laborer, is not fair, and that both should be equal. I guess that the concept of justice is being mixed up with the one of equality here, as many SJWs think to be the case“.

          The above completely ignores economics and financial necessity. The reason why stay at home mothers are no longer a viable choice and why both men and women need to be equal is because the cost of living has risen massively over the years and it takes two people working full time nowadays just to pay the rent and/or pay off the mortgage. A lot of women would love to not have to work(and a lot of men too as well)but unless they win the lottery or something it is not possible for most people to be able to survive like that.

          You also stated,

          “In any case, as society stands now, the more skin women show the more of a whore they are gonna be taken for. Not only that, women who have been raised in such a society are also fully conscious of this, that’s why you will see them showing more skin (and with more make up) when going to a party on the look out for men than on their everyday lives. So most of them are not innocent, they know what the uniform that they are wearing means“.

          You are both right and wrong here, women do indeed wear clothing and makeup in order to look attractive to possible suitors however each woman has her own preferences which means that the suitor she hopes to attract isn’t necessary going to be you. I personally like dark haired, slender women for example but does that mean I have to fuck an obese blond woman should she feel attracted to me? No, of course not, and I don’t expect women to have to fuck men they don’t like either.

          Some women of course are utter shits that look down on any man who doesn’t meet their extremely high expectations but most are not otherwise the human race would have died out years ago as there are more ugly and average looking people on this planet than there’re very attractive people. I’m only average looking myself and yet I have never had any problems getting laid probably because I don’t automatically make a beeline for the most attractive woman in the room. Give me an average looking woman with a good sense of humour any day of the week, lol.

          The above is why I said you were pushing too far because you are basically dehumanising all women who do not fit into your particular perspective of what a woman should be. It’s just like politics wherein the liberals(SJWs) keep on dehumanising everyone else who does not share the same views as they do(calling them stupid, lazy, backwards inbred racists, saying that they should have the vote taken away from them because they don’t have the mental faculties to make a choice over anything other than what to have for breakfast etc) and all this does is cause all those people on the fence about the issue to band together with those already in opposition wherein they make a harder, less flexible, more aggressive pushback against you.

          You also state,

          “I think that a rapist can even be executed in extreme cases, it depends on the case. Like, if he has HIV and forces his way into a woman in a dark alley knowing how he can fuck up with her health“.

          What about her psychological health?, even without the HIV rape is still going to damage her psychologically. The concurrent theme in your argument has been the male state of mind and how it matters so much and yet you don’t appear to place any such importance on the woman’s state of mind at all, you appear to ignore its existence most of the time whilst making biased assumptions about it at other times.

          My point about killing the rapist was not meant as a legal argument but was meant as a counterpoint to your human nature argument in which I was saying that if rape is natural to us then protecting ones own is natural to us too, for example every woman raped has a father, a mother, a brother, a lover ect and they will all have had their “state of mind” altered by the actions of the rapist therefore it is natural and in-line with human nature for them to attack and kill that rapist.

          I shall end on your last point,

          “And when did I say that I had the intention of going around pointing knives at women raping them? What made you think that?”

          I didn’t say you would actually do this in real life but you are the originator of your argument therefore if I address it you automatically become the principal actor for your argument, that’s just how it works.

        • #78596
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          @Empty-soul
          Men also have to fulfill women’s needs, it’s a back and forth thing. That is, as the provider he has to bring food into the house and so on, it’s not like he has to buy her 100 purses (only women at the extreme end of the spectrum demand it), but he has to keep her fed and sheltered. All women have the desire for the provider in them, to a greater or lesser extent, some take it to extremes so that they become gold diggers. Men also have to protect women (women naturally seek for the protection of men), that’s why men go to war, to defend their women and children from the enemy, or to get resources for them (I recognize there are wars to conquer other women too).
          “The above completely ignores economics and financial necessity. The reason why stay at home mothers are no longer a viable choice and why both men and women need to be equal is because the cost of living has risen massively over the years and it takes two people working full time nowadays just to pay the rent and/or pay off the mortgage. A lot of women would love to not have to work(and a lot of men too as well)but unless they win the lottery or something it is not possible for most people to be able to survive like that.”
          There is an agenda behind it, heydolf posted a link to a video that hints on it on the video of the woman who pushed the child from the stairs, here is a document that explains it too:
          http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/population-control-info-from-planned-parenthood-1969/19513
          Next topic, right, women don’t have to fuck men they don’t like, but if that’s the case, they shouldn’t cock tease men they don’t like and make them waste their time and even money on them. It’s like a scam, if you pay for something and don’t receive it, you have the right to complain, if you work for someone, wasting your time, and don’t get paid, you have the right to complain.
          OK, I understand the demand and supply side of things, of how an average guy will hardly get a super girl and so on, but while we are on the market value of women and men, let’s talk about your dehumanizing thing.
          Yes, I am dehumanizing or devaluing these women, whatever you wanna call it. Women who are more promiscuous tend to have more unstable marriages (there are stats for it). For me, and as far as I can see it is also the case for most men (with the exception of cucks and imbeciles)to devalue these women, as a woman’s value is linked to her modesty. Men don’t look for whores for getting married, and even nowadays you can hear that most men still have such a mentality (as I can see with friends of mine or by listening to strangers talking),so, I argue to say that this is the case as you can imagine how men can not always be sure the child is theirs, and that with more promiscuous women you have a greater chance of becoming a cuck. And don’t come saying that actions of people don’t devalue them, so are you gonna tell me that we shouldn’t dehumanize child molesters or the likes of Ted Bundy (I am still struggling a bit to use the word dehumanize, it sounds like newspeak used by SJWs, but anyway). Anyway, women do the same, they devalue men who don’t have attitude, show cowardice, don’t have much status and so on. Parameters vary from person to person, naturally, and the level of importance placed on each fator too, but you can see that some factors appear to a greater or lesser extent in a great number of people of the same sex, that is, they are recognized by a great part of the population as being positive.
          I recognize what you said about the psychological health, nevertheless I don’t think the damage is usually worse than AIDS (perhaps in case of extreme torture it is), and even then this sort of damage may be difficult to gauge. Anyway That’s why I didn’t say gonorrhea, as it’s easier to treat than AIDS, so I think AIDS is worse than gonorrhea.
          “The reason why much of your argument falls at the first hurdle then is because it is an emotional argument for the most part but dressed up as a logical one. In other words, you are trying to intellectualise the innate desire for sexual satisfaction in order to justify the means by which it can be gotten so as to lessen the chances of those desires going unfulfilled and you have done this by arguing and then concluding that women should spread for you based upon social political factors etc.”
          And since you say that my views are an attempt to rationalize my self desire for sexual satisfaction, what’s your self interest as to not recognizing different levels of rape and not “dehumanizing” women because they want to cock tease? Do you think that your woman (if you are married) can go around cock teasing whoever she wants? Don’t you care about her sexual past as to access her level of promiscuity and psychological characteristics, that is, I would be put off to marry a serial killer, but wouldn’t you care to marry a serial killer as her actions are part of the past, the same with a whore? Do you ignore that nature made women to be nurturers, as it’s obvious for the fact that they give birth and have tits to feed them, arms turned outwards so that they can carry children, more fat in their bodies and so on? So, are you a cuck trying to disguise your love for cuckoldry with arguments ignoring evidence based on biology and history?

        • #78642
          Empty soul
          Participant

          @undergroundweller

          “So, are you a cuck trying to disguise your love for cuckoldry with arguments ignoring evidence based on biology and history?”.

          I am an unapologetic racist who often uses biology and history in my arguments on here to explain why I dislike black people so much and thus why I avoid them like the plague. I am therefore not exactly SJW material. That said, biology and history can be used to highlight many things and sculpt conclusions around them but our actual argument here is rape and I have already explained what I consider to be rape and in my opinion biology and history are not reasonable grounds for rape to be justifiable. Even if you have before you a slut who is well known for sleeping around rape would still not be justifiable because rape is merely a self-satisfying action and therefore any self arrived justification is merely a self-satisfying conclusion.

          If I were a cuck I would be accepting of my woman fucking other men behind my back which I am not. If she did cheat on me I wouldn’t rape her though, I would simply just kick her out of my house and not allow her to come back. Job done, no need for rape, violence and murder so on and so forth because only an idiot would get themselves jailed over a worthless slut.

          “There is an agenda behind it, heydolf posted a link to a video that hints on it on the video of the woman who pushed the child from the stairs, here is a document that explains it too”.

          It isn’t just women entering the workforce(and agendas to destroy gender harmony and destabilise society) that increases the cost of living. It is also population growth, uncontrolled immigration, market deregulation, constant and expected shareholder dividends, the desire to have more tomorrow than what one had yesterday and day to day human greed in general etc that pushes the cost of living up because resources, jobs and opportunities are not infinite therefore those who currently own the diminishing resources will always make it more difficult for those who don’t to get a slice of that pie.

          “women don’t have to fuck men they don’t like, but if that’s the case, they shouldn’t cock tease men they don’t like and make them waste their time and even money on them. It’s like a scam, if you pay for something and don’t receive it, you have the right to complain, if you work for someone, wasting your time, and don’t get paid, you have the right to complain“.

          We are going back to “cock-teasing” again without actually addressing what cock-teasing means. Every race and religion has different definitions of cock-teasing, some more trifling than others. I am assuming your definition is that of drinks being bought and flirtations passed. In other words your argument is that of false hope, giving the impression that attraction is present between both parties when in reality it is not.

          In the above social interaction is like a recruitment process, If someone is actually engaging in conversation with you they probably don’t dislike you. However, over the course of the night their impressions of you can and often does change depending upon those continued interactions therefore my advice is to spend less money during these processes and pay more attention to your date’s responses so as to better engage that way you can maintain a continued sexual interest and achieve the result you desire at a lower cost.

          “Yes, I am dehumanizing or devaluing these women, whatever you wanna call it. Women who are more promiscuous tend to have more unstable marriages (there are stats for it). For me, and as far as I can see it is also the case for most men (with the exception of cucks and imbeciles)to devalue these women, as a woman’s value is linked to her modesty. Men don’t look for whores for getting married”.

          I will not argue against that, people do indeed devalue themselves based upon their own actions all the time. My argument is against devaluing all women based upon your interactions with some women. Take politics for example, more women were right wing this time rather than left wing hence why most women in America voted Republican.
          To conclude, women are just like men. They get behind, support and adhere to different social political positions based upon their own experiences.

          “don’t come saying that actions of people don’t devalue them, so are you gonna tell me that we shouldn’t dehumanize child molesters or the likes of Ted Bundy (I am still struggling a bit to use the word dehumanize, it sounds like newspeak used by SJWs, but anyway). Anyway, women do the same, they devalue men who don’t have attitude, show cowardice, don’t have much status and so on.”

          I use the term “dehumanise” to address the broad brushing of, and therefore the distancing of, oneself towards certain groups based upon the actions of the few. All child molesters for example are guilty based upon their own confessions and current sentencing laws. That some woman are shits however does not mean that all women are shits because one needs to individually address each person as an individual and compare that to racial/sexual sentencing laws to come to any sort of conclusion.

          “And since you say that my views are an attempt to rationalize my self desire for sexual satisfaction, what’s your self interest as to not recognizing different levels of rape and not “dehumanizing” women because they want to cock tease?”.

          I do recognise different levels of rape hence my clear description and definition of what rape is despite what some women may say. I have also explained my definition of cock-teasing and “dehumanisation”.

          “Do you ignore that nature made women to be nurturers, as it’s obvious for the fact that they give birth and have tits to feed them”.

          No, in my opinion women are the natural nurturers. However, life is indeed what you make it therefore not all women follow and fall into such lifestyles.

        • #78680
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          @Empty-soul
          “It isn’t just women entering the workforce(and agendas to destroy gender harmony and destabilise society) that increases the cost of living. It is also population growth, uncontrolled immigration, market deregulation, constant and expected shareholder dividends, the desire to have more tomorrow than what one had yesterday and day to day human greed in general etc that pushes the cost of living up because resources, jobs and opportunities are not infinite therefore those who currently own the diminishing resources will always make it more difficult for those who don’t to get a slice of that pie.”

          Ok, I agree with that…

          “I am assuming your definition is that of drinks being bought and flirtations passed. In other words your argument is that of false hope, giving the impression that attraction is present between both parties when in reality it is not.”

          More or less like that.

          “In the above social interaction is like a recruitment process, If someone is actually engaging in conversation with you they probably don’t dislike you. However, over the course of the night their impressions of you can and often does change depending upon those continued interactions therefore my advice is to spend less money during these processes and pay more attention to your date’s responses so as to better engage that way you can maintain a continued sexual interest and achieve the result you desire at a lower cost”

          OK, I agree with that, but this doesn’t change the fact that some women feign interest as to just get benefits from men or just to play with the guy’s feeling and provoke men, that’s conning for me…

          “I use the term “dehumanise” to address the broad brushing of, and therefore the distancing of, oneself towards certain groups based upon the actions of the few. All child molesters for example are guilty based upon their own confessions and current sentencing laws. That some woman are shits however does not mean that all women are shits because one needs to individually address each person as an individual and compare that to racial/sexual sentencing laws to come to any sort of conclusion.”

          All women have boobs, some have big ones, some have small ones, but most of them (save for a few isolated exceptions in case of surgery or lack of hormones) have boobs, it’s a defining trait of women as it is widespread. The same with psychological characteristics, some with have more of a trait, while others less of a trait, but there can be defining traits, although I recognize psychological traits are more difficult to define than physical ones. Like, you said you are racist and so on, but you are using the same argument SJWs use that the actions of some negroes shouldn’t be generalized for the whole community by saying that I shouldn’t generalize for women. I half agree with it, like, there are good negroes, but based in my experience, both for what I have lived in my own skin and observed, I am more careful when a stranger Negro than an Asian comes to talk to me, for I know that statistically negroes, are more violent, commit more crime and so on. Naturally, race is just one factor, as I also look at someone’s clothes, posture, facial expressions (body language in general) etc, as to try to make an assessment of the person. So I consider different factors and understand that humans are quite diverse, so much so that even individuals in a certain racial or gender group can differ a lot from one another, that doesn’t mean that this group doesn’t have on average distinct characteristics from another group. For instance, negroes have a lower IQ in general, that’s a generalization which is true, but humans being are diverse and when you analyze negroes individually you may find a significant number of them who are intelligent, the same for women.

          “I do recognise different levels of rape hence my clear description and definition of what rape is despite what some women may say. I have also explained my definition of cock-teasing and “dehumanisation”.”

          Good, you understand what I am trying to say, justice should be administered in proportion to the gravity of the crime. In my view a guy like Ted Bundy, deserves torture followed by death while someone who killed another guy with punches after being provoked into a fight, perhaps some moderate amount of time in a labor camp. A guy who committed a dark alley rape, should be sent to a long time, perhaps the rest of his life to a labor camp(or even be killed), a guy who fucked a drunk college cock teaser who is not sure about what happened but guesses that she was raped, maybe just a week or two at the camp.

          Well, I am finished with this forum topic. I am fed up with it and it has led me to nowhere…

        • #78711
          Empty soul
          Participant

          @undergroundweller

          “Well, I am finished with this forum topic. I am fed up with it and it has led me to nowhere.”

          The reason your argument has led you nowhere is because you gave it no room to move.

          My point was to show you that you are perfectly entitled to make broad-brushing assumptions about women, to think whatever you want about them and even to delve into biology and history to make your arguments because we all do that all the time. However, your main point was that of justifiable rape(not drunken sex that people wake up regretting but actual violent action against a resisting person)and that is where it fell down because even though I dislike black people for example, I “dehumanise” them and use biology and history to make arguments against them I still wouldn’t rape a black woman because despite my view of them rape would still be unjustifiable from a social, political perspective hence why I said you were dressing up innate sexual desire in the clothes of logic.

          The use of “SJW” and “cuck” statements against your opposition was just a lazy way of deflecting arguments so as not to have to examine and address the points made because you have attached yourself to the “alt-right” subculture as a way of propping up and thus supporting your own rocky foundations because you believe that the alt-right(with their flexible rightwing ideologies and hard-line anti-left mentality) gives you sufficient room to hold your argument and thus be supported on it. The reality is though that if one makes sufficient effort to examine and address all of their held beliefs they would not need to attach themselves to anyone as they be sufficiently strong by themselves.

          What you have said about women and society in general is not entirely wrong and you made some good points, it was just that you fixated on sex and rape and this blinded you to everything around it.

        • #78737
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          @Empty-soul
          I am not really into the alt right, I’ve seen a little bit about it and they do say some things that make sense, but I am not even white to begin with, and the leaders are shills, jew puppets, from what I have seen. Anyway, I do not subscribe to any political ideology at the moment. What it seems, though, is that you have been influenced by the constant brainwashing that there is about a rape culture as to not recognize that there are different levels of rape as there are different levels of murder and theft, although the latter is more complicated.
          And I am open for new ideas and opinions, I don’t comment on BG to preach (only if I see something absurd, such as that Brazil is an overpopulated country), but to receive feedback on my opinions and see new ones or different ones that will prove stronger than the ones I have at the moment. But for them to convince me they have to be more reasonable and logical than the ones I hold at the moment, and anyone failed to convince me here. As you see, I have the same opinion if the roles were reversed, that is, a woman raping a man (I explained it in my first reply), so my logic would apply also to female to male rape and male to male rape, even though I personally dread the latter much more than the former.
          I do have to say that I’d support an ideology that is not perfect out practicality, that is, to counter another ideology that is hostile to me, for the lack of a better option, as I am just trying to make a living, but this doesn’t interfere with what I think is the ideal.
          “What you have said about women and society in general is not entirely wrong and you made some good points, it was just that you fixated on sex and rape and this blinded you to everything around it”
          This forum is about rape, that’s why I have fixated on it. I recognize there are more things to society than what I have said, agreeing with much of what you said about society, but I tried to revolve on the subject of the forum.
          And as to clarify it, I do have the desire to take woman that I like, but not in a dark alley, it’s more like a conquering thing, like inside a courtship situation, as to conquer her modesty. But if I were to sense that she really doesn’t want me this would put me off. This is a desire which has nothing to do with my opinion, I had such a desire even when I still held the different opinions. I don’t have the desire for murdering someone or raping a man, and yet I hold those views of different levels in those crimes, so I don’t see how my sexual preferences influenced me in my opinions, I’d say it’s the contrary, usually my opinions and observations are the ones which end up influencing me as to what to do in life and not the other way round.

        • #78968
          Empty soul
          Participant

          @undergroundweller

          I am naturally depressive by default and am therefore bored senseless most of the time, including now. Hence my need for psychological stimulation. That said I am at least kept alive by argumentation therefore I have to ask, what do you consider to be fake interest and false hope and how do you differentiate it from real interest?

          Could the women engaging in conversation with you not be communicating interest/or non interest out of fear of appearing whorish/too fast or too rude?, or perhaps hedging their bets because they do not know what to feel?, or perhaps even that they did indeed like you at first but were put off after the fact for whatever reason.

          This sort of stuff highly intrigues me therefore my question then is thus, what constitutes fake interest and false hope and why does this support the argument for rape in your opinion?.

          You never know, your answers may change my perspective.

        • #78983
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          @Empty-soul I know, it can be tough to determine. I’d say that you have to rely on body language and other signals, such as Freudian slips or that she is acting in an unnatural way, such as trying to appear angry or disinterested while not being authentic (as you can see by the tone of the voice or body language, as it’s not that easy to completely fake body language (like a smile, usually just a sincere one will make your orbicularis oculi muscles (around the eyes) contract or emit sounds out of the depths of the throat in an involuntary way). I can say that it’s not just physical attraction I recognize, as I am often attracted to a woman but I get deterred by the fact that in the moment I don’t want to waste time on anyone or for whatever other reason, and I recognize women may have the such or any other reasons besides being interested on you, like being engaged, so mind and body, or rather, the primitive reptilian brain (brainstem) and the limbic system may come into conflict with the neocortex. So, there are many possibilities, and that’s why I say that each case has its peculiarities.
          To make a parallel to another situation in life, picture a situation in which a salesman is trying to make a person buy a product, the person likes the product, but is not sure if he/she should spend the money as it could compromise her finances.
          As to false hope is, to illustrate, when the woman knows that the guy likes her but she doesn’t like him and has no interest in having any sort of relationship with him, nevertheless, she keeps him close as to extract benefits, perhaps keeping him in a state of doubt, instead of sending him a clear signal that she’s not interested. In such a case, the guy may snap off and realize he’s been conned and take what he’s “paid” for.
          And I feel you on your need for psychological stimulation, I am the same. Ever since I was a child I would get irritated and disturbed if something interesting wasn’t offered to occupy my time.

        • #79048
          Empty soul
          Participant

          @undergroundweller

          Personally, false hope is something I haven’t experienced since I was a teenager because by twenty I had realised and fully understood that this world we live in exhausts the means of belief so much that hope becomes a worthless emotion to attach oneself to.

          An example of the above is the notion of hard work. Strive and work hard and you shall rise up the ladder they say, however only in an equal and fair society would this ideology hold true. They also tell us men to treat women with kindness and respect and yet those men who do never get the attention of women because in reality women like men who come across as a little bit dangerous(without actually being dangerous of course) because they hate boredom just as much as we men do and nothing says dull like being a “good guy”.

          “Opportunity” is another good one. We get told to keep our eyes open for opportunities and then grab hold of them when they appear when in reality those opportunities almost entirely cease to exist the further down the ladder of society one begins their life.

          Nope, I had all the hope I would ever possess battered out of me by reality a long time ago.

          Naturally one needs some semblance of hope in order to maintain the forward looking attitude necessary for survival otherwise we fall into the loop of despair, self harm and suicide. Do you know what emotion takes its place then when hope gets completely obliterated?, hate. Hatred is the emotion that takes its place because anger and hatred are the next strongest and most suitable emotions to lean on and thus devote ones energy to because they keep us moving forward, a kind of faux-hope if you will.

          After anger and hatred get exhausted as a means of maintaining ones sanity and existence you are then left with the feeling of emptiness, hence my screen name, wherein nothing matters not even your own existence and life becomes trudging and devoid of any actual fun and joy.

          Now, I can assure you that the above self pitying ramble does indeed have a relevant point. That point being that since I have learned to expect and hope for nothing, contain and withhold any instinctive anger/judgment and therefore just treat every interaction I have as an experiment that brings me one step closer to understanding the true nature of human beings I find that women more often than not initiate sexual activity with me.

          There is a truth in the above that also addresses your interest/lack of interest argument in that women desire men who listen and respond automatically, that do not dislike and judge behaviour without bilateral consideration, that do not appear too keen, too desperate or too selfish and that come across as “hard to catch”.

          To boorishly conclude, if one wishes to fuck they must first learn not to give a fuck.

          Physical rape is therefore unnecessary so long as you learn how to mentally “rape“. In other words, address and win over the mind and you will reap the rewards of the body.

        • #79085
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          There is nepotism, it is overtly prevalent, if you have good connections it makes things easier. I see it everywhere, even leftists and SJWs do it, despite the fact that they say it shouldn’t happen. What can I say, it seems that it’s inherently human to help friends and people you know, expecting something in return, naturally. I used to frown upon it, but have grown callous to it, I take it more in a natural way nowadays.
          And as to start up or down the ladder in life, I think it’s fair, it’s the principle of inheritance, you get what your parents worked for so they could pass these things down to you. But you should go up or down in life according to the quality and quantity of work you do in a free and fair society, but we know that things don’t happen that way, we know how there are banksters who have billions and don’t do any good to society, on the contrary, they leech society out of its wealth. There are other social parasites too, they are everywhere. Perhaps, you have to sell your soul to the devil as to obtain wealth in a society like the one we have at the moment, and it’s something I may end up doing.
          But let’s not take a view that is so pessimistic, if humans have gotten to where we are now it’s because we have a capacity to build greater than to destroy and the leeches, well, what can I say, slavery is widespread across all races, so throughout history you have had always the domination of a stronger race (or at least a more technologically advanced one) over a weaker one, such as the Spaniards in America or Europeans with Africans, or even of different classes in society, such as the plebes and patricians in Rome or serfs and nobles in the middle ages in Europe, after one was able to achieve power over the other and kept things that way. Man has used many animals which are of inferior intelligence for his own benefit, even breeding them for such a purpose, and it seems that men do the same to each other men, to those of his same species. Aldous Huxley pointed out that the declining IQ over the second half of the twentieth century would constitute a threat to democracy, as when you have a stratified society with a few intelligent ones and many of a much lower IQ, you have a pyramid formed, that is, you have a great part of society which is not capable of understanding it’s position and the acquiring the means to defend itself. That’s why I am not very hopeful about the present situation, that is, Brave New World seems closer and closer.
          “I find that women more often than not initiate sexual activity with me.”
          Usually it’s like that with most of men, unless you are a rockstar, a politician or someone of high status. But women can send some signals that are very clear at times, even start a conversation while being flirtatious (these are the signals I talked about), but I understand that you have to be receptive, naturally, and while they may start the conversation, even if you are receptive and talk to her, I find that I am the one who has to go on the offensive at some point, which is often not that easy. I haven’t done so once when I had a clear chance and regret my lack of attitude.
          “There is a truth in the above that also addresses your interest/lack of interest argument in that women desire men who listen and respond automatically, that do not dislike and judge behaviour without bilateral consideration, that do not appear too keen, too desperate or too selfish and that come across as “hard to catch”.”
          I have realized that too (and found it hilarious and ironic at first), usually women approach me more and look more at me and smile more at me when I don’t give a fuck to them, if I start to think too much that I want one and that I am lonely and get obsessed by the fact, it’s as if no woman looks at me anymore, quite odd. Maybe there’s a change in body language with my attitude if I don’t give a fuck as opposed to penalizing myself and thinking that I am alone and may stay alone, these thoughts generate anxiety and a lack of confidence, so maybe that’s why they get more attracted when I don’t give a fuck. I also get to be ruder when I get into such a state, which is more of my natural state, so women may enjoy the sincerity of my behavior, as I may look creepy and insincere by being overtly polite. And what can I say, I feel much better when I don’t give a fuck, it gives me more of a sense of freedom and makes me more productive, and it’s a state of mind that is not restricted only to my sexual mind, it goes much beyond that.

        • #79087
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          @Empty-soul Here, I forgot to tag you again…

        • #79103
          itsplaster
          Participant

          @empty-soul I believe hate and fear are are the byproducts of dead hope. Then again, I think most negative things are fear-driven. I believe in true anger and hate. But I venture most “hate” is fear-based. I notice people hate things that they cannot have – be it a person, material wealth, looks etc. I think a good portion of angry feminists as well as angry MGTOWs are just people who were turned down too many times, got scared and got mad as hell.I think it’s a gender less thing.
          You are right that “hard to get” is better but what a fine line. If a guy was rude to me (when I was single) as opposed to aloof, I lost interest right away. And it takes so little to say the wrong thing to a women. I would hate being a man. I’ve been known to have a good conversation and then one tiny thing just turns me off. It’s not a sense of entitlement but I can’t help something turning me off. I have a “forget it” list with some shallow things but very fair: If a guy is involved with crime, is a drug addict – no way. That’s fair. It’s that little stuff that varies so greatly.
          I know women get a lot of flack for being stupid and not as smart as men but we’re complex – not simple. Men are simple (not in a reflection of their intelligence) but they are goal-oriented and see this as puzzles. Women are more about the journey rather than the destination. I think same goes for how men and women pursue sex. It seems the puzzle men can’t figure out how to open is women. Men and women are not very complimentary as mates; yet we’ve evolved too much to just have primal relations. So we try to make it work but as we know, relationships don’t work very well.

        • #79139
          Empty soul
          Participant

          @itsplaster

          “I believe hate and fear are are the byproducts of dead hope. Then again, I think most negative things are fear-driven. I believe in true anger and hate. But I venture most “hate” is fear-based. I notice people hate things that they cannot have – be it a person, material wealth, looks etc.”

          Fear driven hate in my opinion is just as natural and viable as true anger and hatred most of the time because our fears are often founded via real life experiences therefore if something presents itself as a danger(and we fear it) we are less likely to become victims of it. Take hatred of niggers for example, some will say that such a hatred is fear based(fear of the different, fear of the unknown etc) and yet many of those people who hate niggers have had real life negative experiences with black people and are therefore justified in the distancing of themselves from the objects that they feel threaten them so. In this sense fear based hatred is synonymous with self-preservation, of which the list is numerous with some more understandable than others.

          People hating things that they cannot have is a different matter altogether though as there is indeed an actual difference in what people can attain based upon educational and socio-economic/political background. It is natural then to hate a mechanism that enables some whilst denying others based upon parameters other than ability and effort.

          “I’ve been known to have a good conversation and then one tiny thing just turns me off. It’s not a sense of entitlement but I can’t help something turning me off“.

          “I know women get a lot of flack for being stupid and not as smart as men but we’re complex – not simple. Men are simple (not in a reflection of their intelligence) but they are goal-oriented and see this as puzzles“.

          Therein lies the problem in that men tend to be more logical whereas women tend to operate mostly on emotion rather than logic hence the difference in dating preferences. It is no coincidence then that white women and black men are the biggest interracial dating statistic around because black men are emotional and illogical by evolutionary design hence their inability to create, build upon and maintain any semblance of civilisation and why they pathetically beg the white man for support all the time and why they are so violent and rapepish.

          Ideally and logically then women should indeed only be attracted to those men who can provide them with the most stable lifestyles but emotion at the end of the day is what keeps us engrossed and therefore attracted to each other so one must always play the give and take game if one wishes to love and be loved.

          To attract and keep the attentions of another, individuality and selfishness(on the man’s part at least) must take a back seat to mutually agreeable/beneficial arrangements.

    • #77812
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      Although not as bad as the forum..who ever comments last wins😂😂😂

      • #77985
        itsplaster
        Participant

        WELLER: Reply from exhausted, annoyed and fed up poster:
        My second paragraph was direct reply your entire comment. Things before rape are obviously not rape. I used movie clip as a visual expression. You say strawman. You only see rape as a dated stereotype – dark alley, nice girl. I don’t condone rape of good girls OR bad girls. You do condone some cases.
        I don’t give a damn what you reply. You don’t change my mind. It’s not productive. It’s bothersome. It’s useless. I said what I wanted to say. One more minute of this is an absolute waste of my time and I refuse to allow that.

        Empty Soul: I appreciate your input. I find it a fair assessment.

        • #78039
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          They were shitty replies. Both of them. You didn’t even bother to retort what I said or make an analysis.
          And again, you’re distorting my words. I stated clearly and plainly that I agreed that the scene in the movie was rape, and that my point was that there are different degrees of rape, as there are different degrees of murder and so on. But it seems that you’re not good in processing logical facts, and take a simplistic approach to things, and I suspect that this may be due to the fact that you don’t want to hear them and/or have them going against your own benefit/entitlement (after all you’re the one who said you wanted to be a professional cock teaser), for you don’t seem to be that dumb (and this is not a personal attack again, it’s an analysis of why you do what you do based on the evidence I have collected from you). So I agree, we’re going round in circles here, and the more we debate, the more you distort my words. Just do me a favor, don’t make any mentions of me or anything I’ve said here elsewhere.
          Ciao

        • #78053
          itsplaster
          Participant

          I will not be honoring your wish that I never mention you or your beliefs again. Even asking that on this website is audacious. This isn’t Facebook. We’re all fair game. Just go back to that silent treatment thing.

          I doubt your through on this post or you can hope @empty-soul doesn’t care or doesn’t come back OR you can give him the silent treatment too. I cracked a smiled when I saw your comments to him. Good luck.

        • #78076
          undergroundweller
          Participant

          “I will not be honoring your wish that I never mention you or your beliefs again.” So you will be slandering me, just like you’ve done before. Distorting my views. This is not about if you agree or not with me, it’s about ethics.
          Damn, look at the proportion of the case you’ve created just for me expressing my views. You seldom to never revise your comments or recognize that you were wrong. If there’s something simple you can retort to, like two lines in a song, you do. Observations and writings (studies) by doctorates, you avoid mentioning them. Manipulating others and distorting what people say to create villains are fine with you. You’re like a steamroller that won’t stop at nothing as to press on with your interests…

        • #78712
          Armenian potion
          Participant

          @undergroundweller…..I have taken time to read this forum and out of it all I understand you the most…stop wasting your energy and time on something such as this…it’s nothing more than a idiotic scenario..and your intelligence is falling on def ears my love.😉

    • #78054
      Luke
      Participant

      Hands up if you read this whole thread, thumbs up your ass if you scrolled through to see who commented last and ultimatley WON TEH INTUHNET

    • #78714
      IsraelCunt
      Participant

      I have stayed subbed to this forum with no regrets hahah.

      • #78715
        Armenian potion
        Participant

        @israelhanscostelloe..😂😂I am just reading through all the shit and came to the conclusion that..there’s just too many opinions and right wing extremists on here😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

        • #78717
          IsraelCunt
          Participant

          Aye, I’ve been chilling, laughing at the crazy shit, silently agreeing to the sane shit, it’s chill hahaha

    • #77724
      FromRussiawithlove
      Participant

      I imagine it is..considering they carry cuffs😝😝😝 I think what made me attracted to priests was watching music videos from the group Ghost BC and seeing them in vampire movies because most of them in real life are fat and old 😞

    • #78515
      itsplaster
      Participant

      Bella, I promise you if this lasts much longer, I will jump off a bridge lol. And at least, my part will be over. 😛

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