THE EARTH IS ROUND – YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF TAKE A FLIGHT IN A FIGHTER JET

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  • #112695

    TheProtocolsOfZion
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    If you want conclusive proof of round earth or flat earth, you can pay for a flight in a Russian jet fighter to the edge of space. Settle the question once and for all.

  • #112696

    TheProtocolsOfZion
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    Here is the site to fly to the edge of space in a Russian fighter jet. Prove the shape of the earth to yourself.

    http://www.migflug.com/en/jet-fighter-flights/flying-with-a-jet/mig-29-edge-of-space.html

  • #112697

    TheProtocolsOfZion
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    See the curvature of the earth with your own eyes.

    • #112699

      illegalsmile55
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      That would be so awesome. Gave me a rush just watching it. Wheeee

      • #112700

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        It would be a blast. Something for the bucket list.

    • #112702

      Mr Spock
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      This is just simply brilliant. But it’s all quite expensive – Euro 12,500 (= GBP 10,000 approx.) for less than an hour is not within reach for most civilians.

      • #112703

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        17,500 Euros for edge of space. So all the flat earthers are going to have to fork over the shekels if they want proof. I already know earth is round, so I can keep my money in my pocket.

        There is no refuting this.

      • #112704

        illegalsmile55
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        That’s a lot of shekels. 😀

      • #112735

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        You’re damn right it is. But the flat earthers are committed to this flat earth research, so they will happily spend the money to see for themselves. Checkmate!

      • #112902

        thedre
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        Ex NASA Employee spill the bean,,, WE LIVE ON A FLAT-EARTH

    • #114978

      thedre
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      Or,,, You Could be one of the 10,s of Thousands who have flown in The Concorde Twice The Peed Of Sound, Spupersonic-Jet that regularly Flew at ***between 60 to 70 Thousand Feet High***, almost twice the Hight of today,s most modern Passenger Airplates and even Many of the Worlds most-Advanced fighter Jets Today. 3 HOURS TO FLY FROM NY TO LONDON.
      But nobody, Crew,,, Pilots,,, Or Passengers EVER Saw any curvature on it. Once reaching the desired cruising altitude, going Mach-2 the plane would have to Dip it,s Nose Down violently, 10 MILES EVERY 2 MINUTES At A ball being 25 thousand miles in circumference, and travelling **1525 MILES AN HOUR** THE ZIO-GLOBERS HAD TO PULL-IT AS IT WAS TOO EVIDENT THAT WE WERE “”NOT ON A GLOBE”” ESPECIALLY WITHOUT ROUNDED PASSENGER COMPARTMENT WINDOWS, lol, lol.

  • #112698

    TheProtocolsOfZion
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    Put your shekels where your mouth is.

    • #112814

      thedre
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      Exactly,,, **DO SOME RESEARCH** instead of just backing up this COMPLETE BULLSHIT LIE of the Globe-Earth Laughable-Jew-Scam of A Joke, that have you ALL Flying through Fake-Space at 1 Million Miles an hour, lol, while spinning at 1039 Miles An Hour, lol. How Can ANY OF YOU Still buy into such Ridiculous Claims, And (100% BASELESS-THEORIES) at this day, and age, and WITH PROOF EVERYWHERE, lol, i will never understand, lol. Think Of How Stupid this Sounds, WE FLYING THROUGH SPACE,,, Yet, we continue to see the exact same Stars That are Going a circular movement around, and around us, and for almost 7000 years now. This is Impossible, if we are flying through *A SUPPOSED* Infinite Space at (1 MILLION MILES AN HOUR) as NASA claims, and with our *AGAIN SUPPOSED* Milky-Way Galaxy-Attached, And Along For The Ride *RIPPING THROUGH SPACE ALSO* lol, lol, yet SEE THE SAME STARS FOR MULTIPLE CENTURIES,,, NO??? EVEN BILL NYE ADMITS WE ARE IN AN ENCLOSED SYSTEM, and cannot leave earth, because of it. ***A 49 SECOND VIDEO BELOW**

      • #112815

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        The flight in Russia is the proof you are looking for Dre. No video, no story, no theory, no picture. You get to see it with your own eyes.

      • #112894

        thedre
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        @theprotocolsofzion

        I Agree that you see what (Seems Like A Curvature) of the Earth while up in the rear seat of a Mig, or Any other modern Fighter-Jet’s cockpit for that matter, but it is caused by an optical delusional Effect created by the rounded windows in the cockpit. As you can clearly see in the other video’s of the planes, or Jets Flying Mere Centimeters from the flat water for miles, upon miles and for half an hour non-stop. This would be completely impossible to achieve without slamming into the drink and killing yourself instantly. The only reason that they even attempt these stunts is because they know that the surface is 100% Flat.

      • #112972

        Hoping for Nemesis
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        @thedre

        We must go with balance or preponderance of evidence not with isolated evidence that fits your theory.

        You are in the midst of a Canadian Winter’s night! You hear barking in the dark! Most reasonable people would say it is a dog and not a cheetah lost from the zoo.

        Yes ,folks cheetahs bark and do not roar like other cats!

        So dre the evidence and life experience all support a spherical globe even though your flat earth theory also is consistent in some instances.

        Come on man,you grew up reading about explorers! They would have fallen off the flat earth!!

    • #112903

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      Read, and see for yourself as another NASA Employee saYs THE EARTH IS FLAT, AND FIRMAMENT COVERED PERIOD.

      AND AS A BONUS SATELLITES ARE PUT UP WITH BALLOONS, lol,,, Yes Indeed THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DONE LIKE THIS, lol.

    • #114979

      thedre
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      Look-up @theprotocolsofzion, Just Above, and See Truth on Flat Non-Curved (CONCORDE-JET,s Windows)

      This has nothing to do with Me or You being RIGHT, OR WRONG BROTHER,,, EVER, But Only To Do With an Absolute reality check my bro, that,s all! **BUT ONLY TO DO WITH PROOF, & TRUTH**

      With A Massive Amount of Brotherly Love, & Respect for You Always, my B G Brother,,,

      Andre. 🙂

  • #112705

    Blasé
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    Those vids are filmed using slightly curved lenses. Planet Zion is fuckin huge. You would have to go much higher to see an curve.

    • #112706

      illegalsmile55
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      I’m pretty high. 😛

      • #112709

        Blasé
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        I haven’t left the ionosphere in years!

    • #112723

      svarg26
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      apparently the fisheye lens doesn’t exist. must be one of those cia conspiracies.

      • #112725

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        Luckily, you can go see it for yourself in a Mig-29. It’ll be worth the money. Everything has been placed in front of you so you can go do it.

      • #112728

        svarg26
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        high altitude balloon pics saved me from wasting my “shekels”.

      • #112729

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        Oh, so you’re saying pictures are reliable? Pictures can be doctored. You have to go up in the Mig-29. Mortgage your house so you can do it. 🙂

      • #112987

        thedre
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        @theprotocolsofzion,

        Here is some good stuff from your trusted Theory-Buddy Alberto Einschteinweino, lol.

      • #112993

        Hoping for Nemesis
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        @thedre

        I loved the video! It was an excellent refresher for what i already know. Nothing in there scares me.

        Dre , what is Light? What is Love? What is Andre? What is time!
        All these things arendifferent things and the same at the same time!

        Light can be described by particles and waves at the same time!
        Love can be heartening,joyous ,enslaving and fulfilling at the same time!

        Andre can be funny,a great talker and sweet yet annoyingly obtuse and inflexible at the same time he is french ,yet canadian at the same time! He is a father and lover at the same time. One nature does not necessarily cancel out another.

        God/jesus is a Holy Trinity at the same time!

        Krishna the Hindu has a multitude of avatars at the same time!

        Things can have diff natures at the same time.

        A point is a different thing depending on the moment!

        @thedre

        P.s you are wrong. I do look at videos you put up, just not all of them because of the sheer volume. I have other obligations to people and myself as well.

    • #112895

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      This is very true, as *THEY ARE FILMED WITH FISH-EYE LENSES* And the rounded cockpit window also creates an illusion of curvature.

  • #112721

    Blasé
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    The Best Flat Earth Video, loolz!

  • #112722

    svarg26
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    “magellan had brought a globe from portugal on which he had drawn the undiscovered world as he thought it existed. the strait which he had hoped to find was omitted on this globe in his drawings that no navigator might anticipate his discovery. some of the ministers listened to the project with indifference, a few with ridicule; but as a rule magellan appealed to ears. the ministers as a body agreed to commend the enterprise to the king. the haros of antwerp, THE ROTHSCHILDS of the time, favored the expedition.”
    “magellan’s expedition was the first to circumnavigate the globe and the first to navigate the strait in south america connecting the atlantic and the pacific oceans.”

    the earth is a globe? don’t worry, the rothschilds wouldn’t lie.

    • #112724

      TheProtocolsOfZion
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      Well, now you can see for yourself with your own eyes. Go book the flight. Have fun.

      • #112727

        svarg26
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        i fail to see what your point is. you wouldn’t believe what i saw. book your own flight. don’t let fear stop you.

      • #112730

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        The companies brochure claims you will see the curvature of the earth. So go hold them to it.

      • #112732

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        I guess your not really as committed to flat earth as you let on.

      • #112733

        svarg26
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        “I already know earth is round, so I can keep my money in my pocket.” i’ll replicate your commitment, if that’s ok with you?

      • #112734

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        You lose.

      • #112737

        svarg26
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        i used your logic. so, who really lost?

      • #112738

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        Go down kicking and screaming. Checkmate!

      • #112740

        svarg26
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        it’s your ship, not mine.

      • #112743

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        Ahhhhh, victory is so sweet. I think I’ll go celebrate. Feels good man.

      • #112744

        svarg26
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        you won’t be feeling too good after you read my other post.

      • #112746

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        YEAH BABY!!!!!

      • #112747

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        IT’S SO BEAUTIFUL!!!!!

      • #112750

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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      • #112755

        Hoping for Nemesis
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        Truly a masterpiece!
        @theprotocolsofzion

      • #112757

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        Thank you! Anyone can go see for themselves now if the earth is flat or round. The Mig-29 is ready and waiting to take them to the edge of space. They don’t need to rely on a picture or video, they can see it with their own eyes. The company claims right on their website that you see the curve of the earth. There should be tons of flat earthers signing up for this flight now, if they’re serious.

        Case closed.

  • #112736

    @theprotocolsofzion

    Someone who believes in a flat Earth will never do that or anything of the sort and the reason being that if they do that, their flat Earth fairy tale will go down the drain. Even if NASA offered them a free rocket ride they won’t accept. No one is stopping them from doing anything, especially at this day and age. Nothing is stopping them from getting their fat asses on a boat or a plane and go photograph and record the massive ice wall encircling our planet. Yeah there’s no need for super high altitude flights or going to space, all they have to do is go to the edge of the world and show us solid evidence of the ice wall.

    Oh but let me guess, the government protects the ice wall, right? Just another bad excuse. If this wall existed it would be about 78,603 miles of circumference. Do you realize how fucking difficult it would be to protect something of this size? The amount of logistics involved? And since it encircles us, drive your boat or plane to any direction and you will eventually face the wall. Do you really think not even an inch of these 78,603 miles is unprotected? And it’s a fucking HUGE ice wall, no need to get even close in order to record and photograph it. They don’t even risk doing something like that and they NEVER will. So much for people who wants to disproof “the greatest lie ever told” lol. Bunch of cowards.

    If someone does make a voyage like this then there’s 2 possible outcomes – they will see for themselves that the Earth is in fact a sphere and there’s no ice wall and will come back from the trip telling the truth and realizing how retarded and deranged they were for believing in a flat Earth in the first place. But then all the other idiots that are deeply brainwashed and alienated will call those guys traitors and liars and will say they are part of the conspiracy too. Nothing will change, except for those who saw the truth.
    The other possible outcome is that once they see for themselves that the Earth is in fact a sphere, their fucked up brainwashed atrophied brain will deny reality once again and they will come back telling more and more lies, for instance why they didn’t come with solid evidence about the wall.

    They are part of a sect, like leftists. Any sort of thinking beyond what they believe in is enough to think the person is also part of the conspiracy. They are also a bunch of COWARDS that will NEVER provide any sort of solid evidence like the ones I exemplified above. They will never make such a trip, they rather sit on their fat asses and look at flat Earth maps that are ALL computer-generated and to the bible, of course. They don’t need any evidence, they have their fairy tail book that works just like the Holohoax – everything written in it is pure truth carved in stone, just like Holohoax literature. I know, pretty ironic.

    I will not be wasting my time anymore debating this nonsense, and neither should you Mr Zion. Don’t you realize the clown was never interested in a serious debate to begin with? And that all he did so far was to spill more lies and defamation? He made clear he’s not on the right side and he will never be. He’s completely lost and proud of it. He’s also a christian nutjob talking about satan and the antichrist, just like 90% of all those other idiots who believe in a flat Earth. No credibility whatsoever, completely deranged.

    • #112756

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      I liked alot of your post.
      Dont cheapen your argument by denigrating leftists simply because most here are rightists and you personally dont like leftists.

      Your audience would be broader and more convinced if you simply stated the truth: people wont believe in a globe as long as they are inflexible . Political parties do not come into it. There are fools,rogues and cut-throats of both political persuasions. Be a man and say it…. i know you are intelligent enough to know it!

      @eraserhead-2

      • #112780

        @hopingfornemesis

        Thank you, but I don’t think you understood why I had to mention leftists. First and foremost, yes, there are fools of both political persuasions but you would be denying reality if you can’t see that the vast majority of them are on the left side and they are majorly responsible for the decay of Western Civilization. Actually, since its beginning Socialism and Bolshevism brought nothing but misery and death. And now after 100 years it is still the same, only disguised under Globalism. But that’s for another discussion and I know you’re intelligent enough to know it. I’m only stating the truth here, please don’t deny reality.

        This clown Svarg is “right-wing”, aware of the holohoax, the JQ, white genocide, etc. Still, he acts just like the people he criticizes so much: Lack of basic logic, have no arguments whatsoever and don’t want to debate, only to spill poison and defame who disagrees with him. That’s HYPOCRISY, don’t you agree? That’s why I had to mention leftists.

    • #112795

      thedre
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      DO SOME RESEARCH INSTEAD OF TRUSTING THE VERY ONES YOU ARE ALL TALKING SHIT ABOUT,, “”The Jews”” as they truly are also behind this deception, and have always been, lol. So Tell Me, What Makes This One so Different,,, eh??? is it The Nice, And Cool Color C.G.I. Photo’s in your Schoolbooks, that has done this to you’s??? or is it ALL The C.G.I. That they still are showing us today??? Or is it Just (Too Damn Big of a Project For You’s To Undertake) while being Seriously Unbiased, and by Researching, or even to just looking into it, like w.t.f.?? Guys, Seriously man, check-it out Properly, & fully before, and instead of Being disinformation Agents for The Masses, And Our Children, cause that is all that you’s are doing by Serving Them, And Being Their *Theory Parrot’s* while doing so,,, and to think that you’s are doing it for these NWO Fucks, makes me question why you’s have NOT LOOKED INTO IT YET!!!

      • #112799

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        @thedre, taking the flight would give you the proof that you are looking for. You said you like Putin, and that you know Russians and trust Russians. The Mig-29 flight to the edge of space is in Russia, in a Russian fighter jet. These Russians are claiming on their website that you get to see the curve of the earth during the flight.

        The whole thing is perfect. Do a fundraiser. Talk to your Russian buddies about it. Show them the website. Ask them about the Mig-29. Hell, they could probably hook up a trip for you. These are Russians doing this. They are the only ones offering this edge of space flight to prove the curvature of the earth. No other country is offering this.

  • #112742

    svarg26
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    from the 4:00 min mark until 4:30 min mark, you can see the curvature from the camera inside the cockpit and they are still on the runway before takeoff. walk outside. do you see curvature? walk up a mountain. do you see curvature? if not, it’s because your eyes are not fitted with a fisheye lens. i’m sorry to burst your bubble, but this is the reality. i would book that ticket if i were you.

    • #112745

      TheProtocolsOfZion
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      You don’t have to trust the video. So go book your ticket. You’re the flat earther. You’re the one trying to uncover the truth. Go to the bank tomorrow and get the money for the ticket.You can be in Moscow in a few hours from where you live.

      Have fun. Good luck.

      • #112751

        svarg26
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        i led the jews on for a year, collecting their own words to use against them in the holohoax debate. i only needed a few hours to get you.

      • #112753

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        Are you back from the flight already? That was quick. You have nothing. You have to go book the flight. See it with your own eyes. Do it.

        Put your shekels where your mouth is.

      • #112999

        thedre
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        at the 27 minute mark of this video, you can see an amateur rocket go up at 125.000 feet and zero curvature is seen, because they do not enjoy deceiving others, although it is so easy to do, lol. A QUOTE,,, AND I QUOTE
        **IT IS EASIER TO DECEIVE THE POPULACE, THAN TO CONVINCE THEM THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DECEIVED** But NOT THIS GUY, NOPE!

  • #112784

    thedre
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    You can only see the curvature with every Fighter-Jet In the world cause they are all equipped with GO-PRO’s And Fish-Eye Lenses,,,ON ALL OF THEM! And here is the edge that many say does not exist, lol. See for yourself.

    • #112791

      TheProtocolsOfZion
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      Hi Dre, that is the edge of a glacier. If they can go right up to it, then they can go on top and keep going to the end and show what is there. If there is a firmament, they should be able to go right up to it. That video doesn’t prove anything, because they don’t go over the glacier and keep going to the end to show the edge.

  • #112786

    thedre
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    AND HOW CAN THEY DO THIS??? Where’s The Beef???, lol, And The Curvature??? Zero,,, Nada,,, NONE TO BE SEEN,, EVER! And, furthermore I Have PersonalLy used Auto-Cad for the better part of 20 + Years, And if calculating the 8 inches per Mile Squared, which is NASA’s Calculation of our supposed curvature,,, it does not work, whatsoever, and CURVATURE IS NOT THERE. Now,,, can any of You Ball-Earth-Believers Give Me Some PURE CALCULATED EVIDENCE THAT I CAN DOUBLE CHECK MYSELF??? Cause i had been trying to Debunk The Flat-Earth *WITH TRUE* Tested, and Calculated Experiments that i have also repeated,,, and i cannot ever do it. (SO ENOUGH ASSUMPTIONS GUYS, AND GIVE ME SOME REAL PROOF INSTEAD) And do not follow the Pseudo-Scientist-Theories, because NONE CAN BE CHECKED & TESTED,,, NONE, lol.

  • #112788

    thedre
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    If you watch some of the older video’s just a few years back,,, most did not have the Go-Pro Fish-Eye shit on them like today’s, and you can Yet Again,,,lol, See NO Curvature, as there simply IS NOT ONE,lol. So the “ONLY CURVE” that you will see here, is the one caused by the effect of the rounded corners cockpit windows,,, & That’s All folks! And now,,,the “loony-tunes” tune begins to play. 😉

    • #112793

      TheProtocolsOfZion
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      Dre, I know 100% that you are honest. I believe I have given the best way to see the earth with your own eyes. No cameras, no pictures, no theories. You can actually get in a Mig-29 in Russia and see it with your own eyes.

      I would not suggest you do this with your own money, I know you are retired. But, you could get a fundraiser started if you wanted. If the earth is round or flat, I really do not care, I only care about what is true. If the earth was flat, I would say great, so it’s flat.

      So now that people are aware of this Mig-29 flight in Russia, you can see if there are any guys with lots of money who will go do it. Or do a fundraiser. With respect.

  • #112792

    thedre
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    This video speaks for itself guys. NOW LOOK at what A Fish-Eye Lens Does To YOUR-GLOBE,,, As it completely distorts-it, one second it’s Curving Upwards,,, And the Next,, Downwards, lol. C’Mon Man, And just STOP Buying-In to these THEORY’s cause “”THE GLOBE IS THE ONLY ONE”” One with a **BULLSHIT C.I.A. Agenda** tied to it, and have always been.
    I HAVE NO TIME, OR PATIENCE FOR UN **RESEARCHED BULLSHIT**, CAUSE I HAVE DONE MY RESEARCH WHILE BEING 100% UNBIASED FOR BOTH SIDES, AND ALTHOUGH YOU’S DO NOT LIKE MY RESULTS,,IT’S JUST TOO BAD, CAUSE it is ALL 100% PROVEN TRUTH!

  • #112796

    thedre
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    Ii Is Really Starting to come-out now GUYS/GALS,,,Here is Bill Nye The Science guy tell the truth to all. When he clearly states, And You can “again clearly” hear, and See him say so, in the 49 second video just Below, that “”**THE EARTH IS A CLOSED SYSTEM,,, AND WE CANNOT LEAVE THE EARTH**””

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    • #112800

      TheProtocolsOfZion
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      No doctrines here. Just a flight in Russia to the edge of space. For 17500 Euros, you can see for yourself.

      • #112805

        thedre
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        Well i have been up at 35 thousand, and to 42 thousand feet, and we have done this for many dozens of times, as the Wife, & I are very well traveled, and we have never, Ever seen any curvature at all, including pilots that i have spoken to that smile, but cannot say much if they are to keep their Passenger Airline pilot Jobs. There is also NOT ONE Authentic PIC. OF A Curve on the Ocean, but Instead thousands of pics of a flat ocean for miles at a time without even 1 “One Little Inch” anywhere of Curvature, unless seen on a Fish-Eye Lens, or, a rounded Fighter Jet Window, or any other Aircraft’s window, for that matter. **BRIAN MULLIN** An Engineer Explains It Best, as always!!! Pls. Watch-It @theprotocolsofzion it is quite informative, cause he is such an honest, & true guy bro.

      • #112809

        TheProtocolsOfZion
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        The heights you are talking about are regular commercial airlines. I have traveled all over the world Dre. The flight in Russia to the edge of space is twice that height. They go up to 22km.

  • #112801

    thedre
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    The *ONLY TIME* That ANY of us will ever be able to leave Our Firmament Covered Mother Earth, is when we die, and our Energy, or “Soul Alone” enters into, or through,,, Our Life-Sustaining, Electromagnetic Firmament, and it’s Beautiful God Created Realm that truly exists beyond, or inside it. SO DO Yourself a favor,,(TRUST BROTHER DRE FOR ONCE,) And Watch This Great Video Below, as **I ONLY WANT WHATS BEST FOR YOU’s**,,, Nothing Else, No Agenda’s,& amp; No Bullshit!

  • #112810

    thedre
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    Can ANY of you guys explain where the curvature is in the video below, cause nobody can even NASA Hung-Up on me because of a similar video also, as i wanted only some honest answers, but instead,,, got fuck-all but a dial-tone.
    JUST MORE 100% PROOF BELOW Brother @theprotocolsofzion and i am not attacking you when showing you’s this,,, i am just trying to show you truth, and why, you ask??(Because I Love You My B G Bro,) and no gayness either, lol, just godd old fashioned Brotherly love, that’s all. Ask Yourself Why i would continue to do this cause many hate my guts,,, think i’m nuts,,, have ridiculed me,,, and subsequently disowned me, all together because of this Flat-Earth Stuff. But I Forgive Them, and continue To Love Them ALL ANYWAYS,, because they don’t know better, and with all of the brainwashing that they have endured, and continue to endure today,,, i cannot judge them for this, but instead just love them, that much more because of what they have done to them. 🙁

    • #112813

      TheProtocolsOfZion
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      Here is one thing that I have done in every country I have visited. Go to the beach, look out over the ocean. You can only see so far. Look at the point where the ocean meets the sky. Go on google maps right now and stand on the beach looking out at the ocean in as many countries as you want. You can see where the ocean meets to sky, the horizon. If the earth was flat, it wouldn’t look like that. The ocean would go on forever. You also don’t see any wall. All you see is an end of the ocean, at the horizon.

    • #112817

      TheProtocolsOfZion
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      Just look at the picture of the ocean in that video you posted. It’s half an inch tall on the pic, where it meets the sky, then it falls off. I have relatives that spent their whole career in the navy.

      And you’ll see the same thing from any view at any shore looking out at the ocean in any country in the world. Look out over the Atlantic or Pacific. Go look on google maps all over the world. The ocean just drops off at the horizon.

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  • #112821

    Mr Spock
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    Ok guys, here’s a question. If the Earth is flat, this must mean it has boundaries, either an edge or a wall, which you will encounter if you travel in a straight line from anywhere.

    How come with all the technology and entrepreneurship we have, nobody has tried to sail or fly to the ‘edge of the Earth?’ There’s always nutcases that want to do dangerous things, regardless of what the general beliefs are.
    I want to see pictures of the edge of the Earth. There are always people out there that push boundaries, that go against the grain.

    Even if you can’t sail to this supposed Edge, you can fly there by plane. What happens, do you just fly into an ether or vacuum and be lost forever?

    I have never heard of people falling off the edge of the world.
    It has to be a sphere.

    • #113282

      thedre
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      @mrspock

      People have tried to sneak-in with a small sailboat only to be killed, and their boat sunk near the Antarctica Ice Wall Itself His Name Was Henry Worsley

      Admiral Byrd has found the firmament during his many Antarctica Expeditions one of them called operation High jump many planes ran into an invisible dome and crashed into an invisible barrier The Firmament

      Antarctica surrounding Ice Wall that is guarded 24/7 and 365 days a year by many Country’s and all of their military might

      • #113286

        thedre
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        @mrspock
        Here is some more true, honest answers, So I Hope That YOU Will Watch, Them, As I Will ask you Questions Related To These *TRUE* Video,s just to make sure that you’s Are NOT Fucking ME Around Anymore. Cause every time that i give proof, and answers,,,, nobody watches it, and completely wastes my time.

      • #113287

        thedre
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        CAN YOU GUYS SPARE 20 MINUTES OF YOUR LIVES TO WATCH THIS?????

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        Mr Spock
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        Ok some interesting ideas here. However the ideas that there were no windows on the plane because the airline wanted to deceive passengers about round Earth just isn’t convincing. There might be other reasons why a plane with no windows was flown.

        The video is looking the behaviour of a money making travel company and claiming that it is exploiting round Earth theory. No it is just trying to make money from travellers regardless of whatever reality of Earth existed.

        As for the reason why planes don’t fly across Antarctica could be because of lack of Sun, or too much Sun for 6 months. Or maybe to do with the fact that flying over a magnetic pole affects the aircraft instrumentation in some way or other and makes it difficult.

        To sum up, the arguments did not prove or disprove flat Earth.

      • #113526

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        Thanks @thedre. But the fact that an explorer died whilst trying to conquer the Antarctic does not help either the Flat Earth theory or the Round Earth one. The explorer died because it was so devastatingly cold!

      • #113535

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        @mrspock
        Thanks for replying brother. But I Must disagree because i have read many, many reports on exactly why he was going To Antarctica to do,,, But he was ordered my the military to turn around, and to never attempt to go to Antarctica again,, or they would sink his ship. Read all of the non mainstream reports, and interviews with his familyu and friends, cause this guy was from the far north, near the Arctic circle, and knew the climate well,,, was extremely well dredssed for it, had plenty of fuel, in case of he got no wind for his sail for weeks. He had tons of food, heaters inside the bottom of his insulated cabin cruiser, and had logged 100’s Upon Hundreds of hours on this same sailboat traveling to Iceland,,, The Yukon, Alaska,,, Ans All of Canada’s North West Territories.Hudson’s Bay. He was even much more seasoned than the Soldiers who ordered him to turn around, and later killed Him, Than Sunk His Ship, But Ze-Jew-Western-Press, said that he hit an Iceberg,lol, lol. In Order for that Reinforced, and Insulated Fiberglass Hull, & Bow, To have any damages severe enough to disable this Sailboat, it would have to be Pushed, and flying with Gale-Forced Winds, or (The Small Motor That They Have) would have to be pinned to the floor. And NOBODY,,, Especially this guy knows that you have to navigate very slowly, and carefully while in Far Northern Arctic, So Yea,,, lol,lol, he was NOT FLYING Through the Arctic Ocean, and Ripping super fast lol, lol. **Research it honestly, and while being unbiased**

  • #112896

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    THE EARTH IS FLAT, AS YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE IN A 100 THOUS. FOOT HIGH BALLOON RIDE. AND AFTER LOOKING AT THIS VIDEO IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE THAT OUR LOCAL SUN IS OUTSIDE THE FIRMAMENT, AND AT A LAUGHABLE 93 MILLION-MILES-AWAY,,, THEN YOU MUST GO AND SEE AN EYE DOCTOR AT ONCE, BECAUSE YOU EYES ARE SCREWED-UP FOR SURE.

    • #113536

      Mr Spock
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      Ok this is better evidence for Flat Earth. I see a straight line, no curvature. I won’t use the counter argument that the curvature is too small to be detected by the eye. But as you can clearly see, there is only outer space above. It’s not easy to imagine this Firmament that is separating the waters above Earth from that below Earth.

      The second video below actually shows curvature, but admittedly this is due to the lens used ok.
      But again. Upwards is just a void, not the Firmament. Looks like outer space to me.

      However I cant explain the parallel movement of the sun to the same spot on the Earth as the camera pans.
      But it is showing a spinning Earth right? A point scored for both Flat Earth and Round Earth?

  • #112899

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    Oh Looky looky Guys, & Girls,,, our Dear and Trusted Friends at NASA Have finally decided to do what would have been so easy ta do years ago, considering that they have stated, & bragged about having 20 thousand satellites up in space. They ae showing-Us ALL A Shot of Australia Upside Down WOW,,, THANK-YO NASA YOU’RE SO SPECIAL,,, AND GOOD. 🙂

    C’Mon Man,,, you have to agree that any (Rivers, or Creeks Flowing Upwards) would be, and is,,, **JUST COMPLETE RETARDATION FOR THEM TO THINK ANYBODY BELIEVES THAT THEY DO.** Cause as a well traveled Hunter, and Fisherman, i have traveled from Canada’s Coast to Coast and i have never experienced such a ridiculous thing. But,,, on a Globe, it would have to happen. Lets say that i’m standing anywhere on earth, i go outside with my trusted 4 foot level, and call your buddy in Australia asking him to go outside with his trusted level also and perform the exact same test, or experiment,,, they would both come back to be 100% level, And Plum. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE WHEN WE WOULD BE UPSIDE DOWN FROM EACH OTHER??? And please do not insult me, or my intelligence by saying that it is because of gravity, lol, simply because **THE GRAVITY THEORY**Cannot, and Will Not Ever Be Proven, BECAUSE IT SIMPLY HAS NEVER EXISTED TO BEGIN WITH, AND WHAT GOES UP,, MUST GO DOWN. A PRINCIPLE LAW OF APPLIED, AND EXPERIMENTED PHYSICS. And that is real tested experimented, and repeated Science, the way it was always meant to be.And not Baseless Assumptions, theories, somebody’s absurd thoughts, or visions,,, BUT PROOF & 100% OF IT.

  • #112904

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    95% of ALL our Communications are land, and ocean bbased cabls, lol, they have always been, see for yourself.

    AND SEE HOW SPACE MAY BE THE FINAL FRONTIER BUT IT’S **MADE IN A HOLLYWOOD BASEMENT**

  • #112908

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    Here In The 1,st Video Below,,, STANLEY KUBRICK Himself,,, Admits To Have Taken PART In Producing, and Filming ***THE FAKE MOON LANDINGS*** For NASA, See It For Yourselves.

    And Further More The Top Aerospace Rocket Engineer Wernher Von Braun Decided To Put On His Gravestone This Bible Psalm # 19.1 (Which States,,, **The Heavens Declare The Glory Of GOD And The Firmament Sheweth His Handywork** Why Would Such A Top Scientist Have Such A Thing Put On His Gravestone If Not 100% True??? Would YOU Want The Last Thing You Do BE A COMPLETE LIE??? NO WAY GUYS,,, SORRY. IT IS TRUE!!!

  • #112909

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    THE GLOBE EARTH BELIEVERS HAVE ALL DECIDED TO NOT LISTEN TO TRUE NON MAINSTREAM CREATED AND EDITED TRUE DOCUMENTARIES ON HOW IT IT PROVEN THAT OUR FLAT-EARTH IS FIRMAMENT COVERED BEAUTIFUL GOD CREATION. AND I CAN TELL BY THE MANY RIDICULOUS QUESTIONS THAT CONTINUE TO BE ASKED WHEN THEY WERE ALL ANSWERED LONG AGO, AND RE-ANSWERED AGAIN DURING THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

    THIS FORM OF CONDEMNATION BEFORE INVESTIGATION IS IN DIRECT RELATION TO THE INCREDIBLE FACT THAT WITH THE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF INDOCTRINATION THAT MY BROTHERS, AND SISTERS HAVE UNFORTUNATELY GONE THROUGH, AND FOR DECADES, STOPS THEM FROM HAVING AN OPEN MIND AND SEEING THINGS AS THEY TRULY ARE, AS A RESULT. PLEASE WAKE-UP FROM YOUR DEEP, AND *HORRIBLE SATAN CREATED GLOBE AGENDA* MY BROTHERS, AND SISTERS, AND START TO ASK YOURSELVES SOME HONEST, AND SERIOUS QUESTIONS, RELATING TO WHETHER, OR NOT, YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT (YOU SPIN AT 1039 MILES AN HOUR, AND FLY THROUGH THE UNIVERSE AT 1 MILLION MILES AN HOUR.)

    SIMPLY BECAUSE THE SPEED OF SOUND ITSELF HAS BEEN CALCULATED TO BE A MERE AND *ONLY 700 MILES AN HOUR,* BECAUSE THIS SUPPOSED SPIN GOES FROM WEST TO EAST, HOW COULD ANYBODY STANDING WEST OF YOU EVER BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU SPEAK, OR EVEN YELL SUPER LOUD??? AND THE STARS THAT WE HAVE ALL SEEN, INCLUDING POLARIS WHICH IS AT THE EXACT CENTER OF OUR FLAT, AND MOTIONLESS EARTH NOT MOVE, lol, SERIOUSLY GUYS,,, HOW??? BUT WE CONTINUE TO SEE THIS, AND FOR ALMOST 7000 YEARS NOW, AND NONE OF THESE NON TERRA-FIRMA STARS, AND FAKE SO-CALLED PLANETS, THEY HAVE NEVER MOVED, NOT EVEN I INCH, HOW COULD THIS EVEN BE REMOTELY POSSIBLE,,, HOW???

    GRAVITY,,, Has never been observed, calculated,but it was experimented on, and it failed miserably, by the Michelson/Morley experiment,,, The Aries Failure experiment,,, and a few others also. this is when they brought in Albert Einstein to come-up with a good BULLSHIT STORY to explain THE TRUE PROVEN EXPERIMENTS that were done, lol.
    And the Theory of Relativity (that cannot be tested,,, checked,,, repeated,,, or experimented on) was born. I Wish That I Could do more to help, but all i can do is to keep informing the public with what many Millions, or even the up to 1 Billion Now, of Accredited Professionals that already know from around the world that we have been deceived on a **GLOBAL-SCALE** Pun most certainly intended.

    THE TRUTH THAT YOU ALL DESERVE IS RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSES MY S.O.B’s, BUT YOU MUST ALL BEGIN TO THINK, & to SEE WITH YOUR GOD GIVEN senses, INSTEAD OF JUST LOOKING & REMAINING BRAINWASHED, by trusting Establishments

  • #112912

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    THESE CUNTS TRIED TO NUKE OUR FIRMAMENT TO DUH,,,,,,, LETS SEE WHAT’s ON THE OTHER SIDE, DUH,,,FUCKING EVIL-DUMMIES COULD HAVE KILLED US ALL, AND END LIFE AS WE KNOW IT ON OUR BEAUTIFUL FLAT, AND FIRMAMENT COVERED EARTH. 🙁

  • #112914

    Hamburger Bob
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    @thedre
    If the earth were flat, wouldn’t Canada and China be lit at the same time, or wouldn’t France and Quebec not have a 5-5 1/2 hour difference between sunsets? It would only makes sense that curvature creates different timezones.
    Pretend you’ve never seen a video ever in your life and answer this if you can, but should there not be such a big time gap in daylight between you and France if the earth were flat?
    Each person is going to believe what they’re going to believe regardless, but I think the Earth is too big to see any curvature from an airplane, if you could, it would be a very small planet.
    I wonder what Mark thinks!
    What say you @happy ?
    Flat or spherical?

  • #112978

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    @hopingfornemesis
    I Find you Statement quite intriguing, to say the very least, especially when many, many True, & Accredited Professionals have stepped-up to the plate and have shared their findings with us. You See,,,The Globe-Earth Believers are a hard bunch to convince, considering they tend to completely believe in Magic, Instead of Solid Proven Facts, and if they believe in Magic??? then i have an invisible Island to Sell Them In The Bermuda Triangle, that was built In Theory But Not In Fact Yet!

    IT WOULD BE NICE IF PEOPLE LEFT THEIR (Huge Ego’s) At The Door, cause it interferes with Their abilities to think clearly about what is being Presented to them, especially when you look at a (Theory, or a Fact), as they are complete opposites one is simply thought of, and the other is proven,,, Man,,, TOO EASY TO SEE FOR ME,,, You’s??? But,,, if it’s not A THEORY,,, than it’s NO GOOD, lol, Seriously,, That’s What You’s Are All Making Yourselves look like by Refuting All Testable Proofs, without even looking at them,,, STRANGE MAN,,, VERY STRANGE.

    AS NOTHING BUT PROVEN CALCULATED FACTS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN NEEDED IN ORDER FOR US TO BUILD HOMES, STREETS, AND LARGE COMMUNITIES AS A WHOLE, we Could, and Would Never put our Pads, Paper, Laptops, and Plans Down, While At One Of Our General Construction Industry Meetings by saying,,, lets just discuss it,,, go out there,,, and build it on Theories Alone,,, Yea,,, good idea,lol, cause this way Nobody Could EVER Check-Out, test, or even see any of our Theorized Idea’and work,,,we can just tell them that even though they cannot see it,,, feel it,, it’s still there,,, like duh,,,& like wtf man??? when looking at Magic side by side next to Proven Facts,,,**Trusting Your God-Given Common Senses Is A Must!!!**

    AND THE FACT THAT YOU’s ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT DOING SHOWS, AND SHOWS BIG-TIME! SO TRY AND DO SOME SERIOUS RESEARCH, AND THEN COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS **BUT ONLY AFTER DOING-SO** BEFORE CALLING FLAT-EARTH (A THEORY,) BECAUSE THE **FLAT-EARTH-TRUTH** THAT I HAVE PRESENTED YOU CAN BEE SEEN WITH YOUR EYES,,,IT;s BEEN TESTED, AND EXPERIMENTED ON, AND IS BASED ON CALCULABLE, MEASURABLE, REPEATABLE TRUE AND PROVEN FACTS. BUT THIS, *THE GLOBE-EARTH THEORY* HAS EARNED IT’S NAME FROM THE INDISPUTABLE FACTS THAT IT IS **ALL PURELY BASED ON FICTITIOUS, UNTESTED, WITH EVIL BLACK-MAGIC LIES.

    No evidence just C.G.I. Photo’s from NASA. And *THEORIES ONLY* Taught as TRUTH’s in our School’s
    Gravity, lol,,, simply a theory,,, someones thought, lol,, and That’s All Folks!
    Theory of Relativity horseshit, as Mark once wrote himself, which it is only some lying dudes though-up bull.
    Theory of everything,,, simply a theory of more bullshit

    All That I Can come up with in terms of reasons why many of you do not even want to go there, is because,,, I Think That Many Of You (Are Petrified To NOT BE ACCEPTED By The Others)And possibly lose friends over it, If You Admit That Yep,,, there is Lots of Truths to this FLAT-EARTH STUFF, But Don’t You Worry, as you will have the Best Friend That Any Person Could Ever Have Once You Are 100% True To Yourself, and admit that you also know it’s true. AND THIS FRIEND THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT IS GOD HIMSELF, AND HOW NEEDS OTHERS???

    Hello @HambergerBob,

    PLEASE TAKE a FEW SHORT MINUTES TO WATCH A COUPLE OF INFORMATIVE VIDEO’s BELOW ABOUT HOW EARTH REALLY WORKS!

    SEE VIDEO BELOW OF THE REAL ANTARCTICA, AS IT COMPLETELY SURROUNDS OUR FLAT-EARTH KEEPING ALL OF OUR WATERS IN, BEYOND IT ADMIRAL BIRD HAS FOUND THE FIRMAMENT WHEN MANY OF HIS FIGHTER PILOTS IN THE 1940’s HIT AN INVISIBLE DOME FIRMAMENT WHEN FLYING A FEW HUNDRED MILES PAST THESE INCREDIBLY HIGH, & DEEP ICE WALLS.

  • #112980

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    FORMER NASA EMPLOYEE LAUGHS HARD AT PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE IN THEIR C.G.I. BULLSHIT. HE WAS FORCED TO MAKE ONE LAUGHING ABOUT FLAT-EARTH AFTER THIS ONE SURFACED, lol.

    • #112983

      Mr Spock
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      Thanks for this @dre.
      But do you know the interviewer was laughing AT the two consultants, not WITH them.
      One has just the one tooth in front, the other has a molar only. He couldn’t keep at straight face when one of them has a dodgy laugh, because it totally distracted from what he was actually saying.

      • #113203

        thedre
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        @mrspock

        I Know brother, and you are right. I was only putting this up because our brother @theprotocolsofzion got me looking into this guy a little more, cause i saw him a couple of years ago making this video, and thought that it was also funny. He even made another one since, but in that one he laughs at Flat-Earther’s lol, so yea bro,,,lol,lol. Just Some Good Old Great Comedy, to kind of make light of things, and never forgetting that we are all brothers no matter what we may believe in, and *HONESTLY*,,, That has always been, and still is much more important to me than the shape of our Earth, but Not God, as that it where i draw the line.

      • #113277

        Mr Spock
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        @thedre.
        Respect. Our differences (i.e. opinions) are less important than our similarities (i.e. common humanity).

        I believe in the existence of a God too. However although I believe in key fundamentals, Genesis is an Old Testament book. I tend to look at some parts of it as symbolic, rather than literal.
        Instead I’m more of a New Testament kinda guy.

        For example, in the OT, it is not feasible that that entire world came from Adam and Eve, because somewhere along the line, a brother would have to shag his sister to make a child, which is incest. This also displaces the Ark story. To continue a species, you need TWO pairs of parents (two males, two females). Otherwise inbreeding occurs, and way too early.

        But of course, I could well be wrong and maybe it all happened. I have no certainties on anything.

  • #112982

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    NIKOLA TESLA WAS RIGHT, YET AGAIN,,,, And NOT That Lying (Albert Einstein-Jew-Shill) that Ball Earthers Love So, So much!

  • #112984

    thedre
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    I Have Put Myself out there, and continue to do so for you’s,,, And That’s it,,, I Have No Agenda’s,,,I Make No Money Off Of It,,, And It Has Completely Taken Over My Whole Life, While Doing-So, losing many friends along the way, because of it. I Do It **To Let You’s ALL Know** That only God Himself Has Created This Earth For Us, and whether we make it a beautiful one or not, is totally up to us. You’s Think That I Love Being Ridiculed, And Dismissed As A Nut??? No Man,, I Do It For You, & For The Love Of GOD. So Please, forget all of this Religion, Money Hungry Garbage That It Has Become Today, and Just Trust Jesus, God Himself, or just God, if you do not believe that Jesus Existed, but I Believe that they both exist, and i am proud to say so! He Created Our Flat-Earth with it’s Life Sustaining Firmament over, and all around us, To Keep Our Air, And Water in. You can read this in The King James Bible, As It Is Described In Length.

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  • #113185

    Hamburger Bob
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    @thedre
    This must have been a traumatic life experience for you.
    You weren’t like this 2 year’s ago and it obviously has taken over your entire life.
    I have a feeling that you’re losing sleep over this as well, and you know this whole trying to convince people thing isn’t good for your health/blood pressure.
    There is nothing we can do about their agenda except be ready to protect ourselves when the time comes, whatever it is.
    Most of us already know we’re being lied to anyway by our governments/world leaders.

    I was in the worst health ever when I was watching all kinds of hidden agenda/end of times videos for a few years.
    Now its like fuck it, just enjoy each day as it comes and strengthen your personal relationship with your God, and your family. I trust in God and live a , for the most part, a stress free life now.
    You know you were a happier person before you got all into this, I just hope you don’t forget about what’s really important in life that’s actually in your control.

    To good health!
    Cheers

    • #113191

      thedre
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      @hambergerbob,
      You sound like a genuinely good man, and thanks for your kind, and honest words my B G Bro. But Now That I KNOW THE ULTIMATE TRUTH, AND WITH 100% Certainty, Not Spreading the Word, & The Truth To My B G Family, And The World At Large,,, would be A Shame, and as a Result,This Would Be No Better Than *Blasphemy* on my part. I Love My God, and People As A Whole, way too much To remain silent, as my Health, With My Heart, & Overall Circulatory System, Being Totally Fucked, if i have 5 Good Years Left, i Want To Spend them Spreading The Truth About God, and His Amazing Creation, Of A Beautiful, And Life Sustaining, Dome Covered Non-Globe Earth.

    • #113292

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      @hamburgerbob
      “1 up” for this comment.
      Andre, i now seriously suggest you take some time to consider how much this is all affecting your life.

      why do i bother? i dont fucking know. It is patently obvious that you have NO interest in listening and considering the views of others.
      By theDre – “What really PISSES ME OFF, Is when People Ask The Same Fucking Questions,, (Stupid Fucking Questions Too) when i have already answered them 30 Fucking Times AT THE VERY LEAST!!!!”

      But, you DONT answer questions,do you? You DONT “investigate” or “do experiments to 100% prove..” as you spuriously claim (unless you count putting your hand up at school)…. you just post the same youtube videos over and over.
      For a guy who has (i totally believe) spent a career in construction, you have a VERY elementary understanding of physics and the properties of that science ( eg “how can we spend half our lives upside down”, “if we spin at 1100mph (on the equator) why do we not fly of the surface” etc etc etc)

      Im not even gonna become embroiled in the ins n outs of the topic, the conclusion is moot anyway. (OH! DONT TELL ME! to think this, i MUST be a jew-agent! or “brainwashed”?)
      As it goes – your accusation of “agency” regarding @theprotocolsofzion is what encouraged me to make this comment – as well as your treatment of other members becoming WORSE since we last spoke about it.
      So POZ is an “agent” right? because he doesnt agree with you… right?
      Oh, i forgot, he “makes comments from different IP addresses” right?
      I have TOLD you that IP addresses are not static… mine changes every 12 weeks or so (but you didnt listen). Also, i told you that persons using TOR or VPN will appear from different IP each log-on (but you didnt listen). If a plane window/cockpit canopy produced “fish eye” effect, it would do the same when the plane was on runway (but you didnt listen), i asked you – “based on your analogy of a person stepping off a cliff and falling – why doesnt your inner-firmament sun and moon just drop onto earth (but you didnt listen, or answer, just posted as reply a video showing the ross ice shelf, “WATCH THIS, 100% PROOF, YADDA YADDA)
      The guy in the video you have posted hundreds of times is NOT stanley kubrick.
      The video with the mezo-spanish guys (that you posted as REAL the first few times) is NOT real, they are NOT saying what is in the subtitles.
      and on, and on, and on.

      You do NOT “spend hours re-uploading videos” to here…. you copy/paste the youtube URL…thats all.

      And the HUGEST Fucking irony??? – You (YOU) do not even seem to be aware of, and conotations regarding the term “jewtube” ?!

      I tried to be nice… i TRIED to speak to you on a humane level…. offered some advice – for you to stop refering to people as “sheeple” and “brainwashed” regarding the flat earth…..and ill say it…CRAP!
      But, you have gotten worse – more insulting – more “holier than thou”
      then comes this latest thread. Your last comment (at this point):
      “What really PISSES ME OFF – The Same STUPID-RETARDED FUCKING QUESTIONS.”
      and thats the least of it

      Well im done…. I can argue with crazy. And When crazy is mingled with religious crap….

      But, OF COURSE – there can only be one answer @karmen40 is a jew agent!!!! he posts from different IP addresses…. he frequents “another” site….etc etc etc etc etc etc

      Andre, you need to look at your consumption of benzodiazapines, and opiod anagesics… and the effects they have on your cognizance, and relations with online and REAL friends (and family).
      Enjoy your family, get out and do some stuff you love – hunting, fishing, LIVING!

      Cos if not – this shit is gonna drive you crazy

      You need a life OUTSIDE internet, and OUTSIDE flat earth.

      Hate me if you like, call me traitor, jew agent, uninformed etc etc etc. No skin off my nose. I know me.
      But i can no longer (mutely) watch you “blanket” deride the opinions and beliefs of the members i respect on BG.

      I wont be replying further – so consider it your privilege to call me every name under the sun.

      No sweat, Like i said “I know me”

      • #113312

        rayf
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        @Karmen YOU are a GOOD Fuck’n man my brother!!!
        Got 3 Brothers on this thread that I have spent many an hour commenting with…hate to see ya fight.

      • #113314

        illegalsmile55
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        Eloquent @karmen40

      • #113373

        karmen40
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        And BECAUSE @rayf , you have known me for such a long time – you also know that online fighting is NOT my thing.
        I genuinely tried to offer Andre advice, chose my words carefully with the intention of not insulting him:
        http://www.bestgore.com/members/thedre/activity/290629/ <<<< (Scroll down a little)

        But SINCE this, i have only seen him get WORSE in regards to the insulting, abusing, and accusing of other members who dont agree with his “100% proof”.
        And then (will post link below) i read this… him telling another member of his intention to spam any forum created by @theprotocolsofzion , by posting and posting the URLs of his own “flat earth ” videos on POZ’s forum topics – thereby squeezing the bandwidth, and making sure his topic pages have huge trouble loading (for anyone with less than a 1000mbps-down/200mbps-up fibre conection):
        http://www.bestgore.com/members/thedre/activity/293419/#acomment-293469 <<<< (Scroll up a little too)
        SO, actively targeting a member – Committing himself to ruining @theprotocolsofzion forum topics by
        ” jammed-it up,[the Forum page] and will continue to do so”

        How long until this behaviour extends to OTHER members who dont agree with him? (if it hasnt already)

        I hate fighting too @rayf …. but it comes to a point, right? I DID try the “nice” way first… and was completely earnest in that attempt.

        And now, i look at my first attempt to comunicate with dre, then i look at my above comment.
        You know what? as harsh as it may seem -i STILL stand by what i said/wrote.

        ANYWAY, that aside – really good to speak to you pal. hope the “gruesome twosome” are doing ok, and you and your family are doing fine.
        ALWAYS a pleasure to speak with you pal.

      • #113390

        rayf
        Participant
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        @karmen40 Sadly bro the Gruesome twosome is no more…both did get replaced I will upload an avi of them soon…the New Shepherd is Loki And the new Rottie is Daisy.
        Dude since you face palmed yourself into my life so many years ago my respect for you has only grown over time…I believe you have faced many of the Narcotic Demons to which you alluded to with @dre…good advice and I believe you do care.
        Remember SOB brothers…were brothers.

      • #113393

        karmen40
        Participant
        Goints: 634

        @rayf
        Whoa, so im assuming (because you didnt say exactly) that the other two died? If so, my condolences.
        Every dog i have had that died, the experience effected me profoundly.
        That you got two more of same breed, says a lot.

        Yeah, Addiction (benzo especially) had me indulging in some bizzare, obsessive, and time consuming behaviours. This may be a common theme with benzo addicts – it may not?
        Although this class of drug cause just as much devastation… they have MUCH less referable study around their use and abuse.
        I know one thing – it took me MUCH longer to withdraw from benzodiazapines than it did from Heroin.
        It All seems like a fuckin bad dream now

        I agree with your sentiment “Remember SOB brothers…were brothers.”
        But I think, to bastardize a George Orwell quote, “..but some brothers are more brotherly than others”.

        And i DO care – its just that lately, events have had me lean towards reserving more of my care for those who are being insulted, belittled, and (in the case of @theprotocolsofzion) downright conspired against.

        It will all pan out… ONE way or the other.
        Or it wont?

        Anyway, im looking forward to seeing pictures of “the Gruesome Two-point-onesome” 🙂
        Best regards pal

      • #114911

        thedre
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        Nice, now you,s are calling me a *Drug Addict* because i have to take, for my heart disease 2 ativan twice daily, plus my ramipril, plus my ezetrol, plus my nitro patch, and blood thinners.and for my multiple pain after 11 total surgeries, and at the very least 5 more to including a possible triple bypass, i have a hydromorphone, and a fentanyl patch geez guys enough no? What next,,, are you all going to call me a rapist, or child molester next???

      • #114930

        karmen40
        Participant
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        @thedre
        Nowhere did i “call you a drug addict”. what i said was:

        “you need to look at your consumption of benzodiazapines, and opiod anagesics… and the effects they have on your cognizance, and relations with online and REAL friends (and family).”

        a statement i stand by, and something that i believe (if you are honest with yourself) may have at least crossed you mind a couple of times.
        You know how problematic fentanyl and lorazepam (ativan) can be, Especially if exceeding dosage. You are by no means a fool, Andre

        AND NO! as i said below “DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH”! I will not be going to “call me a rapist, or child molester next”
        And To be honest Andre, i find the accusation that i WOULD say that to be pretty fucking repulsive?
        Dont you? (on reflection?)

      • #113388

        Hamburger Bob
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        @thedre
        I appreciate that! I know you man, you’ve always shown that you’re a very kind hearted person, to non-Jews that is lol, but since you mentioned your not so good heart or circulation, it’s better to not let all the disagreements completely consume you.

        I’m pretty sure that it makes you sick to your stomach when other members disagree or make fun of the whole flat earth thing and I know you’re having trouble sleeping at night because you’re thinking too much about any resistance in the comments.

        Conflict doesn’t suite your condition, you like things to be cool between everybody, it bothers you a lot when you feel things aren’t right with people/members you know. Shit, the agitation/anger that’s starting to pour out is the last thing you need.

        Trying to fix things is what I admire about you the most because it shows where your heart really is, you just want things to be civil between other members who you’ve battled with in the past.

        You left all those videos out there for everybody to see, you did your part. That is dedication to the highest level.
        You can’t convince everybody, but just know in your heart that you’ll convince a few, being that you made it all available in one place for millions to see.

        Please don’t give up on your health,
        circulation problems can be corrected and keep the laughter in your life up.

        Take care Bro!

      • #113394

        karmen40
        Participant
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        @hamburgerbob
        Now THAT was eloquent.
        I dont Frequent Gore sites as much as i used to, but good to meet you.
        And hope we “bump into” each other when we do use the site.

        Best regards

      • #114839

        thedre
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        @hambergerbob
        You truly are a good man brother. Please do not ever change bud. 🙂

  • #113285

    thedre
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    What really PISSES ME OFF, Is when People Ask The Same Fucking Questions,, (Stupid Fucking Questions Too) when i have already answered them 30 Fucking Times AT THE VERY LEAST!!!! FUCKKKKKK!!!! But they Never, Ever,,, Fucking Read, Or Watch The True Documented Military Video Proofs That i spend hours re-uploading,,, These Expeditions Took Place FOR FUCK-SAKES… So every other week, again,,, The Same STUPID-RETARDED FUCKING QUESTIONS.

  • #114622

    karmen40
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    Filmed between 23rd and 27th of feb, this year

    <p lang=”en” dir=”ltr”>For all the dipshits who think the Earth is flat, I personally shot this footage of how it looks from Outer Space… pic.twitter.com/2J9usVCNpI</p>— Steve-O (@steveo) February 27, 2018

    <script async src=”https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js” charset=”utf-8″></script>

    • #114843

      Hoping for Nemesis
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      @karmen40

      Excellent ! I saw it when you put it up and thought i had answered but obviously had logged off and forgotten .
      Anyway, yes proof is in the pudding.

    • #114844

      thedre
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      Only me saying that i would be leaving a few days ago brought-out the real cowards, and two-faced cunts out in the open,,lol. All i had to do is say i was leaving cause a few did not like me, lol boo, hoo, hoo, lol, and not post any comment, but lurk instead, and Wow,,, lol, did the Cowardly-Cocksuckers Ever come-out to play,,, and full Fucking torque, might I Add. What A Fucking Joke.

      • #114863

        karmen40
        Participant
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        @thedre
        You said you were leaving?
        as it goes i didnt see this. But (as i assume i am one of the “cowards and two faced cunts”) scroll up a little – ive been calling you out on you abuse of others for some time…so nothing to do with “me saying that i would be leaving a few days ago”
        Andre “Wah-wha,,,im leaving” – yet its me who is the coward?
        Everything ive said, ive said to your face (cowardise & two faced debunked)

        So what else you got dre? am some “kid” with no life experience who “you and 30 men on a construction site would throw in the dumpster”?
        Am i a “jew shill”?
        Am i a “disinformation agent?

        Come on @thedre, ive been here so as long as you – so tell these people all about me, eh?

  • #114823

    karmen40
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    Sorry guys
    But i, Myself am NOT an expert in spamming other peoples topics with video URLS.

    That is the reason for all the jibber-jabber scripting phrases and symbols appear on my above comment.

    In an attempt to help you all see the video – click the ” pic.twitter.com/2J9usVCNpI ” link in that comment.

    If you are using chrome, you can just watch it just buy clicking the “play” arrow
    If you are using firefox or IE, playing is not always possible by just clicking/tapping on the play arrow.
    THEREFORE….pleas click the link – then when the twitter page/video appears – click the drop-down arrow next to “Follow” tab… then click “embed video” – – – in the “preview” that appears after this – the video should play just fine (click the double apposing arrows for full screen)

    THIS PAGE HAS BEEN PURPOSELY SPAMMED WITH VIDEOS, so as to destroy this forum topic by squeezing bandwidth to the point where it takes the page TIME to load. Please Be patient…. and let the page and its contents load — therefore defeating the intent of the person who Spammed the topic, and broke BG rules by doing so.
    “100% MEGA-Proof” of the claim ive just made : http://www.bestgore.com/members/thedre/activity/293419/#acomment-293469

    OH, & PS – Great forum topic, @theprotocolsofzion

    • #114825

      TheProtocolsOfZion
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      Thanks Karmen, I appreciate the support.

      • #114871

        karmen40
        Participant
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        @theprotocolsofzion
        no probs

        As soon as I saw the “steve-O” video, i thought of this (your) forum topic.
        Im not certain if he took/paid for the same flight that you allude to at the start of this topic?

        BUT – the fact It was a mig, and looking at the area around the strip, i would hazard a guess that it took place somewhere east of poland, and north of Kavkaz range… wouldnt you?

    • #114842

      thedre
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      @karmen40
      The only way for you,s to ever understand anything instead of theories is to fill pages with 100% Proof Instead Of Your BULLSHIT THEORIES TAUGHT AS FACT IN SCHOOLS. You,s are just jealous that you cannot provide us with the same amount Of GLOBE-PROOF with REAL proof, That does not have the Word *THEORY* Attached To It! ,I do it in the hopes that you,s will at least have some time to view one or 2 minute video,s while you wait. So Are You Saying that i also Spam My Own Forums, cause they are even more jammed packed, and slower than this one. Try looking at some of it, before being and the proof before Parroting Establishment Bullshit!

      • #114865

        karmen40
        Participant
        Goints: 634

        @thedre
        First of all, i went to a C of E school – and had christianity rammed down my (our) throat every day for years, so i assume that was also “BULLSHIT THEORIES TAUGHT AS FACT IN SCHOOLS” too? you agree?
        Cant have it both ways, @thedre
        Or are you going to pick and choose which parts of MY education, (in schools thousands of miles from you) were “BULLSHIT THEORIES” and which parts were “100% MEGA-PROOF”?

        IM “jealous”???!!! I just have no fucking words for this hahaha!

        I have watched lots of “your” videos. I mean…whadda you want? a fucking “like” button? a fucking “YaY! i watched dres video” button? Why do you just assume that people have not watched your videos (then abuse people) just because they dont comment on those videos? your behaviour regarding this is narcissim in its fullest.
        As it goes, one or two had a couple of decent points. But Most were full of ludicrous THEORIES, The “mathematics” involved was just ridiculous (Eric Dubays version of calculating cirvature for a sphere would create an infinate parabola…NOT a circle or sphere),and NON proved that Eart is flat.

        NO -Dont put words in my mouth- I am NOT “Saying that you also Spam your Own Forums”

        But seeing as you bring it up, i will address this. Your skills online are very much below that which your self obsessed character allows you to believe.
        When You made your own “…TRUTH THATS HIDDEN FROM US ALL..” Forum page and filled it with videos, you DID NOT KNOW AT THE TIME that this would squeeze bandwidth and stop the page loading…. it took MANY BG members to TELL you this “please dre, its hard for you forum page to load, STOP posting so many videos” and such similar comments

        SO, With you new found knowledge that too many video URLs jams-up a page you proceed to fuck up others forum topics (that dont follow your adgendas)
        BUT WORSE THAN THAT, you admit to doing so, and conspire to continue doing so.
        again, the proof: http://www.bestgore.com/members/thedre/activity/293419/#acomment-293469
        And YOU accuse OTHERS of being two-faced, and speaking behind backs/scenes? Now THAT is a “A Fucking Joke”!

        By the way: The comment you made against the “shlomo” kid was fucking disgusting. For a man of our age – you should hang your head in fucking SHAME.

        I was sincere in my comments to you trying to help. After this, EVERY post (3 or 4??) i have made calling you out as an abusive bully has been made IN REPLY TO YOU, and has been TAGGED WITH YOUR NAME.
        NOTHING other that what ive said TO you, has been said behind the scenes/behind your back.

        We can keep going DRE, you can keep making posts calling me names and addressing nothing.
        I am articulate, I stay on topic, i address each issue raised in your vitriolic comments against me (rather than name calling and accusing without basis), and i do my research.

        What YOU need to realize my “friend”, is that your own words are your worst enemy on this site.

        Big smile Andre…BIG SMILE! 🙂

  • #114869

    karmen40
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    ….. the kid “shlomo” @eraserhead-2 (the one who you viciously abused, and basically threatened with “30 men”) was absolutely spot-on
    “your comments will stay here as proof for everyone” as to the type of guy you have become.

    i was proud once to call you friend. and do actually care about you in general. BUT (as i said to another friend recently) my care is nowadays more reserved for those you abuse, deride, and accuse – without any other basis than them not agreeing with you.

    • #114906

      thedre
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      Alright agreed then. but in fairness i have had my views viciously attacked by 100,s (hundreds) for almost a couple years now, being called a retard, fucking,, idiot,,,, a flatard,,,, uneducated moron,,, i have no schooling but am No Retard. And with whatever everybody could throw at myself, and i did turn-out quite vengeful, and bitter because of it, i wish i never brought that flat-earth up, on most days even though i hold dear to it. But i seams that just because 95 % of you,s do not agree it is then ok to laugh behind my back, and talk shit behind my back, without myself not at least having the courage to fight back?? You,s win, as i am too old, tired and sick of fighting for what i truly believe is the truth so you win, i,m done.

      • #114932

        karmen40
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        @thedre
        And i understand this – During the “dickhead dilf and his gang” period, i believe you WERE called all these things you stated in this comment.
        But never buy me, never by shlomo, and never by your friends on BG. Not that ive seen anyway (and im an accomplished lurker)

        IS THAT IT?
        Did you get so used to answering “hate and abuse” (from dilf & co.)WITH “”hate and abuse” , that this became your standard defence against ALL challenge – and spilled over into replys to those who where NOT abusing you?
        PLEASE forgive me for “second guessing” you with the sentence above… but Maybe we are getting somewhere here? I hope so? ……. If the sentence i said above IS anywhere near the truth – it certainly WOULD make sense.

        It is obvious that you are not a retard. A “retard” would not have had as successful career as you have – and reaped the benefits of that career
        I will kindly (truthfully) remind you again, i myself have NEVER said anything behind you back, that i have not said to your face.
        I HAVE discused the situation between yourself and i with a friend – but i PROMISE you that this discussion was conducted with a heavy heart… and a certain amount of frustration at the situation, but was CERTAINLY not in the vain of “talking shit behind your back”

        I havent “won” anything Andre – nor was winning my intention

        But i agree with your last statement – I too, am “sick of Fighting”

    • #114996

      @karmen40

      Thank you for the support. I agree with everything you said, not only regarding me but every comment of yours in this post.

      Stay well.

  • #115070

    karmen40
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    @eraserhead-2 hey, something ive wanted to say to you
    When refering to you in quite a few posts, i have used the phrase “..the kid shlomo…” and similar.
    Please, I hope u dont take the “kid” part as insult.
    I would (being a man of 46) refer to a 25+ year old using the same phrase… its very much acceptable in the country and area i live, and certainly not meant as derogatory.

    best regards

  • #115072

    @karmen40

    No offense taken, don’t worry about it.

  • #157703

    illegalsmile55
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    I just reread this entire thread, after having to reload it umpteen times…and it surely makes me feel sad. I wanted to bring up uncle dilf and the gang to andre, to remind him how painful it is to be called ‘pedophile’, and now he threatens members with banning, like this is his own personal site, and nobody better ‘mess ‘ with him,or call him a liar, but allow him to call other members ‘jews’ or ‘shills’ by not agreeing with HIS philosophy. Just Fucking sad. A place many of us go to for a laugh and to escape the insanity that is life on this big blue beautiful marble. Thanks for nothing.
    No one is talking behind your back @thedre. Your paranoia tells me something is deeply wrong with your thinking, all I see are real friends trying to reason with you, to remind you of better times, but still you come back to this and dare people to disagree with you. I’ve noticed you have many times tried to draw emptysoul into this argument, and being the smart guy he is, he avoids giving you an answer on his beliefs. I dare say, if he believed the earth is flat, he would’ve said so. By the way, I’ve wasted a few hours of my life watching your “100% proofs” the earth is flat. I still believe in a global earth, but that shouldn’t make me anyone’s enemy, and if it does, you weren’t my friend to begin with.

    • #157727

      MasterPlan
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      Thanks @illegalsmile55 I completely missed this post, I guess the case was closed long ago. Where the hell was I??

      • #157732

        svarg26
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        probably watching me kick the fuck out of dumb cunt globe earth ass on another forum page. rofl.

      • #157952

        MasterPlan
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        @svarg26

        You are very good with scriptures and not only that, I surely agree with you that a jet in to space is a unnecessary measure. Cameras in a balloon would sure suffice if done with proper rigor… but you haven’t sent yours up in space, and scriptures means nothing in a scientific debate. It may work with religious fools tho 😛

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