Toddlers at Child Care Center Beaten, Dropped and Choked by Employee

Toddlers at Child Care Center Beaten, Dropped and Choked by Employee

Toddlers at Child Care Center Beaten, Dropped and Choked by Employee

Not much in terms of backinfo, but apparently a child care employee filmed themselves abusing toddles in their care by slapping on the face, beating, dropping from heights and choking them.

I don’t know where exactly the video is from, nor the gender of the employee, but it’s typically only women who are capable of such cruelty. Always have been, always will be – history holds proof of that (props to @llyounghitlerll for the research). In the last few seconds of the video the abuser appears to say something, and even though I don’t know what language that’s in, the voice sounds more female than male to me. Those hands look more feminine too.

Props to Best Gore @achillesof for the video:

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325 thoughts on “Toddlers at Child Care Center Beaten, Dropped and Choked by Employee”

      1. That very last part was on twitter and it caused an uproar. Obamacare? It was posted by someone named @lildicmuncher (since deleted) and it included pics of what people called dead babies. I remember some of those pics tho, they are actually late term abortions. Well that’s what it looks like the images are all abortions. But nobody realised or cared to admit “hey its no big deal just normal stuff we all had it done who gives a shit?” It’s interesting that twitter lashed out at the OP but not a single remark about the woman doing the snuffing either.It’s like head in the sand no worries.

          1. @darkflare Jo cox comes to mind. Liberals can never understand why we like to kill them. Brevik killed their kids while they were on a taxpayers expense holiday. one day the libs will get hanged on meat hooks for all to see, that will be a good day

          1. If you’re so hardcore racist, yeah the baby thing is terrible, but I’d give more of a fuck of it was white and Anglo anything. We ARE the superior race. But I have ethnic friends, so I’m not a Nazi.

          2. This video makes me want to put my hand in the screen and apply more pressure to the little nigglets neck the sheboon isn’t putting in enough effort. If it was a white kid ad want the sheboon strung up by its monkey lips and used for target practice so your a part time racist, there’s no in between!

          3. Wait so you’re the MASTER race but you can’t stand in the sun? And in the parts of the world richest in resources the sun beams down extremely strong? Doesn’t make sense. Sun = life. The reason why whites have an intelligence/strategy advantage is because they have thousands of years in the Cold hating life, scavenging, while Africans Asians and Indians enjoyed heat and resources, whites developed some sun protection, colonized, and said this shit stops today, we will takes these peoples resources, they’re too happy, and we have years of pent up anger. When whites came to attack, we couldn’t defend because we weren’t thinking about war, we are peaceful.

          4. Whites aren’t the ‘master race’ when Eastern Asians have them beat by brain size and a higher IQ, this is scientifically proven, but hey… Just ignore that fact though, and continue telling yourself you are superior in order to feel better about your own shitty existence, assuming that you’re not some Jew pretending to be a gentile in order to race-bait, because there seems to be a lot of those on the interwebs as well. 🙂 Oh yeah, here’s another fact for ya… According to studies, whites that are supremacists tend to have a lower IQ compared to those who aren’t. Just thought you should know that…

          1. those kids made bad choices in life @darkflare. First of all they were born niggers and second they were born mussies. it also follows they’ll grow up to be parasites and rapists. I have no sympathy for the little cunts

          2. yeah because raping children and killing them is TOTALLY what women do. Women are the primary kidnappers and molesters and rapists of kids…oh yeah wait a minute…LOL~! NOT!~

          3. Well Jackie, for many women, raping and killing children is In fact TOTALLY what they do. I would bet that incidents of women abusing children is widely under reported. People do not want to see women as the little vicious things they are.

          1. @polluted

            Who said anything about punching your lights out? Lol… I didn’t say that. I just said I would teach you some manners… That’s all, but then again, you might be Jewish and if that’s the case being an ASS is in your nature, there for you can’t be fixed, so I would just kill you, but I would do it legally though. 🙂 And I don’t care ‘what type’ of person you are either… Lol and the fact that you would have to say something like that makes me think you’re nothing more than a scared little man behind a keyboard and if you are a Jew I can probably guarantee that’s the case… As for me not meeting you, lol… You can never be too sure about that… I’ve seen stranger shit happen in life, farrrrrrr stranger. 🙂 I don’t think you can be absolutely sure about anything, not 100% anyways.

            And by the way, I can’t reply to your comment for some reason, so I’m not even sure you’ll see this or not. 🙁 If you don’t, you don’t… Oh well. Sorry to the person I did send this to by the way.

        1. @Polluted

          You’re lucky… if I wasn’t bound to the matrix, or to some ‘thought-form’ or alien spirit like the one attached to my astral body, I would teach you a lesson in manners. Talking shit and mocking the death of grown adults is one thing (despite whether knowing these people are innocents or not, in most cases I think), but doing this to children? Lol, you’re a real piece of work… You know that? You need a good ass-kicking, if I had the opportunity I would give it to you and much, much more on top of that… And I would make you into a man, that’s for certain or certainly closer to. 🙂 You should do time in a Brazilian prison talking that shit about kids… I wonder how long you would last without probably ending up on this website? I wouldn’t mind seeing you get what you deserve… Judging by several other comments you made on other videos to this website.

          1. Lighten up Dick. 😀
            Mere words that have your panties in a bunch, from someone you dont, or won’t ever know. You’re gonna have to double up on your blood pressure pills. Jeeesh.

          2. haha that always makes me laugh, someone who knows very well they’re not going to meet me in life threatening to punch my lights out, but be warned , i’m the type to take a hiding and get up again. You know what you can do dick if yr so upset about someone else’s sprogs, you can fly over there in your astral body and give that mother all your money. People like you who cry about other people’s kids are usually the ones who abandon their own, cos that’s what i’m getting here dick, an absentee father.
            Thanks Illegals he sure has got his panties all twisted, he’d never meet , guaranteed, probably got multiple profiles @illegalsmile55

          3. @polluted

            Lol, which one of those boxers are you? I’m assuming I’m the guy with the little mustache? I never been in that bad of shape before, and I’m pretty sure none of those dudes got with the hotties I been with. But sure, that’s me alright. 🙂 What ever helps you sleep at night.

          4. @illegalsmile55 I need your help sis, whenever someone goes off on a really long rant can you read it for me and precis it down a bit? What these fellowes don’t realise i can’t even fukkin see all the wrting, it goes blurry.

          5. @dragonwolf13 Hi dick, thanks for the video, i’m still watching it, seems interesting, kind of relaxing too. i would like the world to end in a nuclear holocaust and i hope i can rely on israel do accommodate me, that would be good, By the way , in the boxing video i’m charlie chaplin, remember , keep them short so i can read them, i’m a bit slow

          6. @Sloth12

            I could care less honestly, because I think they’re both kikes in the video. And I’m no kike. 🙂 As for you dying in a nuclear holocaust, I think that death is too good for you… You deserve to die slow in my opinion. Maybe not though, maybe you’re just really flawed human being whom was probably raped when you were a kid or beat by his parents… One of the two. If so, then I can understand how you can crack jokes at infants… But even then, it doesn’t make it acceptable. You got to ask yourself though, what if those were your kids? How would you feel? Honest question… And if you don’t mind, I would like an answer…

          1. Honestly I think Hitler was a better man than that… He was well aware of Jewish control over the world, and he didn’t target ‘chinks’ or ‘niggers’ as you “finely” put it, but he targeted other white people… The Jews. Hitler was allied to Japan for fuck sakes, and even had Negros in his army fighting for him. The propaganda about Hitler being some big racist, was just that… Propaganda. As for him being Jewish, I doubt it, but he could have been, and World War 2 could have been orchestrated for a much bigger purpose than what humanity is aware of… I know one thing for certain, I would much rather live under Aryan rule ANYDAY instead of Jewish rule…

            At least then I would have a fair shot in life without someone smart holding me down, like Jews… since you know, Jews are smart, far smarter than Aryans… So are Eastern Asians too, and without the Jews leading the white race, I kind of question just how long ‘white rule’ would last without Eastern Asians taking control of the planet and possibly making all white people slaves? White Europeans are highly out-numbered by the rest of the world… I think it would be pretty easy. Hey, I’m just saying… Truth is truth, you can hate the message, but don’t hate the messenger. 🙂

            But if it were up to me, I would get rid of the Jews, and then I would try to unite humanity as one… without race-mixing or destroying culture in the process, if it were best for the human species. I think it’s possible without Jew control… But sadly, I know I’ll never have that power, so really there’s no point in talking about it. 🙁 Oh well, a boy can dream, right?

          2. @illegalsmile55

            Hmm, weird… I can’t reply to your comment for some reason, but what ever, but anyways, to answer your question… Yes, I would, but I would do it humanely… Only because Jews are parasitical by nature… The Jew can’t thrive unless it leeches off of others, and they’ve leeched off of all races… Blacks, Asians, and Whites don’t do this… Blacks might in ‘some’ way, but only because they’re manipulated by the Jews themselves, and due to a lack of intelligence on their part they’ve probably became a pretty big threat to humanity’s survival as well, but at least they can change their ways… If not for the Jew, Jews on the other hand can not change their ways, as they’re parasites by nature as I already said and there’s a lot of scientific evidence backing this up I believe. But since you’re a ‘white supremacist’ asshole that takes your supremacy over-board, you’re not going to look passed your stupid biases and see passed the fact that blacks are NOT your enemy… Show me scientific proof that black people can’t contribute to humanity? They can… They just need the right guidance, but so far, it’s always been Jewish guidance… Christianity plays a major role into why African society is shit, and Christianity is JEWISH in origin.

          3. @dragonwolf13 The children dick, illegals is talking about the CHILDREN, remember those poor little muslim kids you were so concerned about yet now you want to slaughter millions of jewish kids, see how our hypocrisy comes back to bite us? wanker

          4. @dragonwolf13
            You correctly replied, when the reply button is no longer there, you have to go back to the last reply and make sure to tag (like you did to me) . If you don’t use the correct username, like you did with polluted, he won’t know you replied to him.

          5. @illegalsmile55 I’m done with dickhead, he attacks people then asks them how to use the site, amateur, i’m sure he’s got another profile cos his rants look familiar, anyway illegals i’m off to bed, it’s 12.30 here in london, i’ll check in again later in case you can’t sleep

          6. @polluted

            You’re done with me because you’re more than likely a Jewish coward, too scared to face the heat from a ‘some-what’ enlightened gentile like myself. 🙂 I can’t say I blame you though, like I said… Being a little bitch is in your nature. What or where would you be without the matrix to fall back on? You ever see the movie Hellraiser with Pinhead? That’s where you would be, and trust me… You wouldn’t be a cenobite…

            Anyways though, I may be a little hypocritical (aren’t we all?), but what I say is righteous none the less, for the betterment of humanity. If anyone holds back our species it’s the Jewish race, and for the sake of billions of other human beings that are not Jewish, it would only be logical to get rid of them. Put the kids to sleep, and for grown Jews (probably much like yourself), torture the shit out of you (cartel style) then throw you in the furnace, like Hitler probably SHOULD HAVE DONE… But since the Holocaust was more than likely a ‘Holohoax’ he didn’t. Sadly. :*(

    1. I’m about to stop fucking with this website. U motherfuckers on this site are ridiculous. How do u crack jokes and play with shit like this? Pure Evil. Some shit is not to be played with. What if it was ur kids???? Fuck u insensitive ass racists on here. Suck a dick and die slow

      1. BestGore is full of beheadings, dismemberments, disembowelments, burnings, car accidents, stabbings, and shootings, but somehow this is where you draw the line? If you’re a member of this site, you’re a sick fuck just like all of us. Stop trying to make yourself look any better.

          1. You are absolutely right with ur interpretation of what I was saying. U are right also when u say to each their own. But u gotta draw the lines somewhere. Seeing kids getting fucked up is one thing, but to laugh and joke about it is something completely different. The world is obviously a fucked up place. Hope this kind of stuff never happens to any kids again.

        1. Is reality sick though? If we think this shit is repulsive then we are shocked due to ignorance. Welcome to a world of savagery. I totally agree. There are no lines to draw. Face this crap or just pretend it doesn’t happen daily. And much worse. Oy vey!

        1. So maybe try and change the world one step at a time. Dictatorship declared in Mexico for three months. Then go after every drug lord and put their heads in the town plaza. And this time don’t let Mexico fuck it up by not paying its top commandos good money. Which is what it did and they all went and became The Zetas!

          Phillipino Duterte for Dictator of Mexico!

          1. Lol.. Mr. Spincter.

            William, I’m only concerned about just and unjust… and anyone can make fun of ether of them. Why do you assume every adult is better of dead? I draw the line at non humans.

        2. Totally agree. I’ve been to over 100 countries. Child brothels, people burned alive whilst police drink coffee the whole thing. Here in America we sweep the shit under the rug and pretend our plutocracy is democracy but it’s a world of filth festering behind the DC suits

      2. I agree. Color has nothing to do with it. Those are innocent babies. No one deserves to be treated like that more less a tiny soul who knows nothing but trust and love. And can’t defend themselves against this evil bitch monster. By the God’s that’s pure evil. All u should be ashamed.

          1. Yeah click the puppy you cunts make the world better by not looking at it or proposing some pipe dream. Humanity is dualistic. Order and chaos. That will not change. And stories of Zeus won’t help either. It won’t get any better. We are lucky we haven’t gone extinct (yet) like the other 99% of all other species that already did.

      3. Ikr this is the most unsettling thing I’ve seen in a while and some people are saying things in the comments that I can’t really rap my head around cause it’s so disturbing to know some people think that way….but at the same time, I watch people get brutally murdered all the time without feeling any remorse or sadness so I can’t really get angery and call them out cause at the end of the day I’m just as sick as they are.

        1. Jews and alien human hosts… Alien human hosts are alien souls in human bodies, Jews are pretty much the same thing I think. Watch John Carpenter’s “They Live” and you’ll start to figure things out… That movie is based on a lot of truth and as far as I’m concerned, truth is stranger than fiction. The sun glasses on the movie is symbolic of the third eye and if you don’t know what the third eye is, I would research that as well… The third eye / spiritual eye. With that open you can see that some of these ‘people’ here commenting (the ones that laugh at kids dying, ect. ect.) are not actually people.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD1Qwm6a5Lk (About the Third Eye)

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntns8Xp3-rA (The movie “They Live”)

          1. @xunseenx @honkeykong First, honkey, that made me laugh out loud. And unseen, I was only teasing because svarg can be so mean sometimes. I thought “Two people as mean svarg? Help!” Haha Svarg is proud of his meanness, I think and I can’t imagine him any other way.

  1. In this current “let’s not judge” society…I would like to hear the other side of the story. Besides, some people in mexican families say it’s good for a baby to cry; it’s good for their lungs. They are just trying to be helpful.
    In all seriousness, what kind of bullshit treatment of children is this, straight execution when said person is found.

    1. when these abused kids grow up they will seek revenge and most probably murder her, I’ve met one confessed mother fucker here who murdered his own mother. Obsessed with that event he is now suffering from physiological trauma, addict to gore, drugs, male prostitution and probably begs for drugs money.

    1. I’ll not lie, I felt horrible at what happened to those children (regardless of race), but then I thought… Y’know.. One or both of those kids is gonna get brain damaged, which means they’ll grow up to HOPEFULLY torture, rape, dismember then slap the bitch in HER face and get away with the whole damn thing.. Cause their retarded… Awesome..!

      1. “Uggh! I can barely watch” But you did watch and you do watch, all the gore all the time and you’ll keep coming back for more. Just like those ancient Romans visiting the arena. More gore,more blood, men, women,kids it doesn’t matter and you love it.

        @divadelight

    1. I’ve watched quite a lot of these videos and I just thought how strange it is that almost 100% of the person torturing the kids are female. I’m not saying “of wemen are the worst!” It’s just weird to think about.

  2. This is the shit I dont understand, beating a child who cant defence himself? Kids are my weak spot tho, when the video includes a young kid, I know I aint gonna enjoy it. Hopefully this kid will revenge in future

      1. Yes, thats the shitty reality. Not all mothers hug their kids and kiss and defence them to death. Why this dumb mofo brought this kid into the world if she aint gonna give a shit about the kid. I hope she gets the african lynching

    1. Nikke this is what happens when an entire continent is vicimised. Think about it. They force one tribe into a drought area, starve them for a few months then send the details to bob geldof ( look at us, see how we’re starving to death, now send money) It teaches them to do that exact same thing but on a smaller scale. So the mother beats the kids ( Look at your kids, see how they suffer, now send money)
      @nikke

    2. Same. I almost like (?) those cartell dismemberment clips, but as soon as the videos with kids and toddlers show up I can’t help but to feel like crying. Everytime I think just why, why do I have to share my world with assholes? And why do people “channel their anger” into some little Nazi instead of doing something against it?!

        1. She’s a full blown nigga SS. No matter how you dress ’em up they’ll always be niggas. Don’t forget, until we discovered oil and handed it to them this bitch was walking naked in the desert fucking her father

          1. Read up on the finds of oil in the Mid East around turn of the century 1920 ‘s . You will then know why the West turned around in the middle of a war and then supported their enemy Mustapha Kemal. A disgrace!
            @sloth12

      1. ive moved into a new bigger flat in the last 2 months . its a lot better, i was living in a big building of 56 studio flats with support staff… cos i have mental disabilities…. but ive moved on from that stage now…. shits a lot better… after 2 months finally got my broadband sorted. so yeah im back…. 🙂

          1. @mattjack666 Glad to hear you moving on up! Sorry about your mental disability , couldn’t fanthom hearing voices or seeing shit… I operate better with full control over my mental capacity . .. although I could be bi-polar to a degree.

          2. @icecreamlair

            its the planet that talks to me, no one else. its actually very sobering. and the end is near, hes telling me this is the last summer for most ppl, few survive to something better, the next phase in human evolution,….

  3. It’s arabic. Those people are filthy. Likely the woman is an abused woman and it all just gets passed on going round and round like those toddlers brains. They’re definitely brain damaged if not dead already. ala akba

  4. The grandmother of a lady I know would lock all her kids up in the basement because she was afraid she would murder them. She suffered from postpartum trauma and actually loved her kids. This lady’s words “I’ll let you die to go to heaven” don’t suggest that she feels any animosity towards them. A possible mental condition, the humiliation of divorce in a Muslim society, economic hardships as a lone mother, and almost certain repatriation to Somalia: these are factors that may have triggered her erratic behaviour. I suspect that her renegade spouse is a scumbag as well. What the fuck is he doing in Yemen while his kids are in Saudi Arabia?

    1. There’s nothing wrong with this. Why are you so ready to interfere with muslim culture. Are you racists or something? This woman is a very brave and courageous woman, she’s doing this to bring the husband back into line and we shouldn’t judge her. If she didn’t do this those kids would starve.

      1. I agree. She is willing to make the decisions that in most scenarios will madden the minds of the ones with conscious. What she did as a embryo pouch is essential to break the cycle of fatherless children. The irresponsible and undependable seeders of spawn. The abuse of children will get under even the most harden shells but will not make the bearer’s black heart skip a beat. She can see the redundancy in the pervasive negligence and as expected curiosity reels its ugly posterior while it rakes in the biggest audiences and is willing to play the villain. She has a voice that hasn’t been muttered by the cowardice and vestiges of procreative half measures.

        So for the people that skipped biology class>>>>>>>

        You insert your penis into a vagina peaking annually then a baby comes out. BOOM!!!!! AUTOMATIC RESPONSIBILITY!!!!! Diapers, nourishment, clothes, estates, inheritance etc. Everything the bundle of life brings to the table. If the stork still delivers baby to infertile couples that are unable to conceive then that may be a viable solution. Reptilians parents are another alternative. Religious sects view them as a gift from god. A testament of his omnipotent powers. I wonder how atheistic nihilist view them.

        Although these kids may not be so lucky.

      1. @masterplan In our society the mother is given welfare but in others she gets nothing and how can this woman go to work? That man has fucked her and his kids and is probably off fucking some other woman. We forget this is how it used to be in the west. If you had a child out of wedlock it was big trouble. Now fatherless children is encouraged. But who pays the bill? Those kids are fucked up now in so many ways i can’t explain. In reality they are better off dead. It’s harsh but they will grow into nothing.

  5. Hey so your story is all wrong i have your back ground info your need on thus case . So it’s actually the mother abusing her 6 months old children in Jeddah saudia Arabia she video taped urself slapping choking dropping both twins from heights to smash thier heads . And send video to the biological dad because they had devorcied and she wanted him to send her money. These 4 videos of the little one bleeding and the other one getting slapped in her walker and the one that was bleeding getting choked and dropped . They did get rescued . These 4 videos went viral everywhere just 2 days ago . Maybe 3 at the most . And police in Jeddah were able to track down the mother and save the twins bringing them to a hospital in Jeddah to be alized and as far as I know the twins are doing good the mother will never ever have them again and the twins are at a family members on the dad’s side now and the mom has been arrested
    https://www.jqknews.com/news/45743-Women_recorded_video_fans_6_months_old_twins_girls_face_to_coerce_her_husband_to_give_money.html

    https://m.gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-officials-save-babies-tortured-by-mother-1.2253456

    http://www.gulf-insider.com/saudi-mother-tortured-baby-twins-money/

  6. LMAO, I think the author(s) of this site had their heart broken by chicks.

    get over it, you fucking retard.

    Everyone’s capable of evil. No gender is more capable than the other.

    ROFL, fucking dumb misogynist.

    1. @stellamaris You’re just a baby yet, lol. Lexis is right. Misogyny is very common. I used to make a lot of noise about it. Lately, I just don’t care anymore. I’m getting complacent or something. I still think it’s annoying but I’m tired. Do stick around. There are a lot interesting discussions. And as for Mark, I don’t think he’s heartbroken so much as his interactions with women in general aren’t great. I don’t think he’s that way because of some personal hurt. I think he truly believes all women are evil or bad. Basically.

      1. @masterplan Hasley pops in now and again and says something then is gone for weeks ,months. You know when a woman is arguing with you and gets the last word in as she’s walking out a door? Well that’s what she does with mark. She kind of hits and runs. It’s quite funny . Notice how she’s left everyone hanging?

    2. Hasley, you are right… all genders are capable of violence. It is the women who act like they are innocent little virgins while abusing helpless targets like children though. It is women who like to play the victims in feminist marches while harboring the same level (probably more) of hatred toward the opposite sex. For me, most of my mysoginy is in response to hypocrisy.

  7. Beheadings, executions, accidents, whatever; I can deal with them. It’s when a child or an animal is hurt that I feel angry. There’s no point to harming someone or something so young and defenseless. Not only are you making yourself look bad, but the victim isn’t going to obey, submit, or act accordingly towards you; they’ll only fear, or quite possibly grow up to be damaged mentally and/or emotionally. What a fucking dick move from the woman. I hope those children track her sorry ass down in the future and tear the bitch apart.

  8. If someone would catch those perpetrators we see so much of on bestgore, place them in a basement, like in the “Hostel” movie, and took money from people who would want to turture and kill them, he would make a shit ton of money and make the world a better place in the process.

    I, for one, would pay a hefty sum to be able to inflict the worst imaginable pain on this cunt, and jerk off in the process.

  9. I’m going to speak in defence of this woman. She is a somalian muslim. She has already been abused by having her vagina mutilated so she doesn’t enjoy sex. The man gave her two kids and left her probably because he’s a gay like most muslim men especially somalis (notice their female shaped bodies?) .
    She now has no vagina, two kids to look after and no job. So this is where islam leaves these women.
    It’s all in favour of the men and now she’ll likely be punished for torturing the man’s worthless offspring.
    Where are all the liberals speaking out in defence of abused muslim women?

    1. I have read all your posts here and you have a fucking evil point of view.
      It fucks me, it fucks me a lot, but I must admit, in truth, you’re right.
      What the fuck is everything in this world.

      1. @horquetai Thank you. i don’t know the answer but what i do know is this. Until the victims of islam (muslims) stop trying to fit square pegs into round holes they will never be at peace, never be happy or at least content. They are angry at westerners and pretend to hate us but they love the west. Without the west they would have nowhere to go to relax and enjoy life yet they’re so afraid of sharia law and the consequences of leaving islam that they pretend to love their false prophet. They will never leave us alone because they envy the freedom we have yet at the same time they can only try to destroy that freedom. Without it they are finished and will be in a perpetual state of war. Notice how they’re always at war with each other?

        1. @sloth12 You need to show a bit more patience with people; your instinctive hatred of dark-skinned people prevents you from extending any goodwill to them. We Catholics and Protestants fought for centuries before we learnt to live together in peace. Most Muslim countries are still caught between feudalism and modernity and they will need a dozen Chairman Maos to sever all their feudal ties. Who knows, maybe the Arabs will do the Mecca what the Chinese did to their Buddhist and Taoist temples during the cultural revolution. Give them time, dude.

          1. @alois haha what’s the matter alois has no one replied to your comment so you jump in here?
            Sure, let’s all give them time to evolve and meanwhile they can behead us in the name of religion, stick your neck on the block, don’t worry about me and if your original comment was so interesting you’d be there replying to people but you’re just triggered because no one ever replies to you. By the way my hatred is not instinctive that’s a lazy use of a cliche for someone who purports to be educated. My hatred comes from years of experience with those people. You have no charisma, know nothing about black people or muslims and your knowledge of western politics is all wrong.

          2. The Chinese had a civilisation . The Moslems never did. They are just sand tribes like the Hebrews were. Big difference!

            I hate Mustapha Kemal and Turkey yet Mustapha was a secular leader. He dragged Turks into modernity by the scruff of their neck. Yet he is only one and everything he worked for has been demolished by his successors like Erdogan.

            Islam loves being benighted and feudal. Chinese always loved education and culture. Moslems never did!

            Don’t forget Uncle Sam has killed off all the other modern secular leaders;hussein ,qaddafi and assad?

            @alois

        2. Too true!Most of those Moslem cocks in mid east are descendants of forced converts anyway. Yet they like the moslem lifestyle. It allows them to lord it over their women because they are are pissweak at anything in real life anyway.
          This is what goatfucking and closet homoness gets you!
          @sloth12

    2. @sloth12 If you scroll up, you will see that I already made the same points as you. And I don’t understand why you, as an apparent European, use the designation ‘liberal’ the way the Americans use it. The liberal parties in several European countries are vocal opponents of immigration for instance.

      1. They absolutely are not.

        All the liberal parties in Europe are soft on immigration. Some of them just pretend to be against it at times for political reasons.

        The British Labour Party for example (now very, very liberal), only pretends to want some immigration controls when nearing election time because they know that their core working class voters are against uncontrolled immigration and they have been bleeding voters to the rightwing parties every election for a while now.

        Outside of election time they are pro-uncontrolled immigration.

        The Liberal Democrats however don’t even hide their love of uncontrolled immigration. They scream about it from the rooftops and tell everybody they can.

        The German and French varieties in their respective countries are all the same as well.

          1. The FDP in coalition with Markel’s CDU are the ones who opened the floodgates and started the uncontrolled immigration to begin with.

            They have been soft on immigration for years. Only in the last year or two have they changed direction and they only did that because they got decimated in the last elections as a result of bleeding out core voters to the rightwing parties.

          1. The ‘liberals’ are considered part of the political right in Europe. You got your degree in political science from YouTube. Hence your woeful ignorance.

          2. Oops!I meant Conservative and love unfettered invasion!

            Also guys it upsets me that you always think everything has to do with political parties and national govs. When will you mention that your gov is TOLD what to do . Do you both actually believe your gov is sovereign or is it that you don’t want to get your friends offside on this site who all come from a country you have a “Special Relationship”with?
            If we are to talk let’s talk truthfully at least once out in the open.
            @sloth12
            @empty-soul

          3. @hopingfornemesis

            The Liberal Democrats are not conservatives. They are a party of liberals and social democrats.

            Its in their name and in their history, the result of a merger between LP and SDP. They are centrists at times but mostly liberal, definitely not conservative.

            Merkel’s lot however, meh………I will give you that. German politics has too many parties to actually label each one of them with any particular brand. Conservative leaning liberals with a love of uncontrolled immigration might be the best way to describe them.

            As for,

            “Also guys it upsets me that you always think everything has to do with political parties and national govs. When will you mention that your gov is TOLD what to do . Do you both actually believe your gov is sovereign or is it that you don’t want to get your friends offside on this site who all come from a country you have a “Special Relationship”with?”

            Unfortunately human beings don’t operate like the above. If you attempt to nullify tribal affiliation by stating that a single shadowy cabal operating behind the scenes controls it all you will get called a tinfoil hat wearer and a conspiracy theorist and dismissed outright regardless of the truth of the situation.

            Also, evening knowing that a single shadowy cabal operating behind the scenes controls it all you cannot do anything to stop it because you become paralysed as a result of having no physical position due to having no actual affiliations hence no actual support.

            It makes far better sense then to organise under a banner of sorts even if you are merely hijacking that banner for your own purposes as this allows you to separate those who are an hindrance from those who are an asset and this gives you the socio-political strength and momentum to push forward towards your own actual goals whilst keeping the opposition in sight and out of rank.

            To conclude. People like myself and Polluted are strangers with our own individual goals that find ourselves united under a single makeshift banner because it allows us, the anti-uncontrolled immigration brigade, to further that agenda whilst keeping the opposition, the pro-uncontrolled immigration brigade, in sight under the banner of “liberal”(whether that be New-Labour or the Lib Dems etc) and out of our own ranks.

            You see, party politics is not what it used to be. The labour party for example is no longer the party of the working class because it is now run by middle and upper class left-wingers and so is its voter base.

            People now treat political parties like they treat car insurance companies in that they go wherever the best offer is at any given time because customer loyalty is not rewarded nowadays.

            In other words, I am only using these affiliations for my own particular ends. I couldn’t give a shit about them outside of that.

          4. I am not a tin -foil hat wearer. I am an informed citizen aware of geopolitical power. You left the culprits unnamed. I will name them for you. USA . It tells The UK and Merkelistan what to do and when to do it via NATO and other transnational bodies. No conspiracy theory ,just cold hearted facts.

            As for Liberal Democrats ,names mean nothing. It is voting bloc and outcomes. Lib dems are certainly voting with Conservatives in the main ie pro EU integration,pro invasion,pro-globalisation.

            As for Labour in The UK not being Labour of old? Yes of course. They are controlled opposition and have been so since Bliar’s New Labour.

            Apart from the above points I agree wholeheartedly with you.
            @empty-soul

          5. @empty-soul Well put empty soul. Damn good with words. i’m voting for the “For Britain” lot because i like what she’s saying.
            The days when a man voted labour every time without even knowing what they were about have finished, blair and corbyn have milked it and now it’s coming back on them. I saw some labour activists the other day bleating on about labour not being anti semitic, one of them stopped me tried to hand me a leaflet i told him “no way, you’re all racist and i like jewish people” haha i couldn’t give a fuck about jews really but it’s a great demonstration of how their pandering to all groups has backfired on them, by loving muslims they’ve found themselves at odds with the jews, fukkin beautiful.
            Come on nemesis alois, let’s hear you, fukk’n master debaters , masterbaters more like

          6. @hopingfornemesis

            I did not say you were a tinfoil hat wearer, Nemesis. I said that people in general will accuse you of being one should you argue with anything grander than tribal affiliation.

            For example. I strongly believe that 9/11 was an inside job and there is plenty of evidence to support that theory however I also know that people in general will accuse me of being a tinfoil hat wearer should I argue with that because they only see tribal affiliations(in this case Islam vs the West).

            I agree with you. I know full well that geopolitics is the name of the game and that individual sovereignty no longer exists for the most part. My argument though was that one cannot mount a fight back without using sovereignty and tribal affiliations because those are the only tangible assets at hand to the individual working class man.

            I concluded that you don’t have to actually believe in something in order to hijack and use it for your own ends. It’s what politicians have done for centuries after all.

          7. “I did not say you were a tinfoil hat wearer, Nemesis. I said that people in general will accuse you of being one should you argue with anything grander than tribal affiliation.”

            No probs @empty-soul. I know it was not personal.

          8. @hopingfornemesis hahaha a nem i’m creasing up right now, you chose sides with that alois fellow because you thought he is some sort of master debater you were intimidated by him, he’s a child full of childish emotions, he can’t stand that he was ignored whilst just about everyone replied to my comment in defence of the muslim woman, persoanlly if i was there i’d strangle the little fuckers too. well you replied to his comment but only to sat “I agree with you” i thought mor of you nem

          9. You are wrong. Read my comments again. Nowhere do i agree with alois as such. I simply stated who is conservative and that they love invasion as well and that you guys never talk about the overarching geopolitics of the situation.
            I have agreed with Alois and disagreed over time just as i have with you and almost everyone here. It does not make us any less friends.
            I am not in thrall of anyone here on BG. As i said a long time ago to Dre. I do my own thinking.

            I thought you liked and respected that.

            @sloth12

    3. @ polluted
      Good point, religion, Islam in particular, can often have the effect of changing peoples natural behaviour and instinct, removing our natural empathy towards other human beings. I agree on the Liberal hypocrites too. Where is their outrage on male genital mutilation? BITING their forskin off is OK I guess, because Jews & Muslims cannot be criticised in our free country, because that will get you thrown in Jail. Free Tommy!

        1. Yep, blasphemy laws were abolished years ago. We were free to criticise any religion or ideology if we so wished. Not now it seems. The British police do not consider Tommy to be far right and yet that is how he is constantly portrayed by the traitorous left wing media and Libtards just eat it up. I can’t decide if they are just disingenuous hypocrites just virtue signalling and bidding for the Muslim vote, or if they are actually retarded and can’t think for themselves. The blatantly obvious irony, that they cannot comprehend, is that Sharia is the most fascist, totalitarian, violent, tyranical, form of control the world has ever known. When they start throwing their gay friends off buildings and beheading adulterers,they better not come running to me, because I will have died fighting to protect my nation, culture and birthright, that my ancestors fought and died for. Sorry for the rant, but this shit gets right on my tits.

          1. @sandalsniffer “disingenuous hypocrites just virtue signalling and bidding for the Muslim vote, or if they are actually retarded ” all of those, sorry for copying and pasting . but add to all those fear. The libtard is really a coward who will cave in to whoever’s in front of him/her. Put a muslim in front of teresa may and she’ll agree to everything yet she’ll slag off putin and trump because she doesn’t have to face them. Hence we lose our country.

  10. i swear in my life i would kill that fucking monster that’s able of such of inhumanity actions…….i died of horros with that little poor kids…….puta madre you deserve to be decapitated, they gonna catch you!

    schifoso mostro ti strapperei il cuore a mani nude per poi fartelo mangiare

  11. @alois I have just read it. It’s poorly worded and lacks emotion. You have as much charisma as a house brick and i suggest you show some respect for those who reply to your comments and ask you questions rather than be concerned with someone who you think stole your views. You’ve marketed yourself as an intellectual but your childish emotions have shown you for what you are. A jealous dimwit.
    People here know me as a person who has these views and i start many topics and have some very interesting discussions.
    Now, rather than getting all hot under the collar with my comment why not show @asskingforanal a little consideration by replying to his question as he has at least bothered to reply to you which i notice nobody else has.

    1. I never implied that you stole my views, but you gave the impression that you were the only dissenting voice here. And I take great pride in writing without emotion. Emotions are your main handicap, dude.

      1. Exactly what i said and i quote “It’s poorly worded and lacks emotion.”
        You have a thread which everyone has ignored so you decide to troll me. I’m flattered. It shows my comment has intellectual content which yours lacks. I look forward to seeing you pop up now and again when you feel rejected.

          1. @empty-soul have you seen this? it explains everything. Alois is trying to get us to believe the european left wing are against immigration because he’s a gay faggot german. he’s into nigga bum sex

          2. @sloth12

            Bum sex aside. I was under the impression that Alois was American or perhaps a young British person who has consumed a lot of American culture over the years because he comes across as Mid-Atlantic.

            I have been to Germany many times before and have a number of German friends so I usually have a good feel as to whether or not I am talking to an actual German person over the internet.

          3. @empty-soul oh i see, well i’m English from London and i’d have thought he’d have known what i mean’t by a liberal. he’s a lefty liberal though for sure. I don’t like his gay fantasies but queers will be queers as long as he keeps it to himself and his gay black friends

          4. An actual German person would be Immanuel Kant who said of the Germans that their highest virtue is their cosmopolitan outlook on life. I have never ever identified myself as a German, but German happens to be my mother tongue. There are seven people who have taught me everything I know: 3 Italians, 3 Germans, and 1 Greek guy. There is nothing Anglo-American about my mode of thinking. Having ‘a good feel as to whether or not [you are] talking to an actual German person’ is as meaningless an utterance as having a good feel as to how the weather on Pluto or Venus must be like. Bismarck brought about the unification of Germany by force and carefully left out those Germans who were deemed too German, or regionally too powerful in the sense that could disrupt the balance of power, for his own vision of Deutschtum. Adenauer himself considered his part of Germany to be culturally far closer to France than to East Germany. In other words, there is no such thing as a German ideal type representative of the German character.

          5. “Having ‘a good feel as to whether or not [you are] talking to an actual German person’ is as meaningless an utterance as having a good feel as to how the weather on Pluto or Venus must be like“.

            No its not. You can tell a lot about a person based upon how they use words, what words they use and how they put those words across and in what modes of thinking they utilise them.

            An Eastern European for example comes across differently to a Western European person and an American comes across differently to a Scotsman or an Irish person etc.

            I am not doubting your German language skills. I’ve never seen you use them so I can‘t form an opinion on that either way.

            What I can tell though is that you are not German born and raised.

            In the absence of any new facts I am still sticking with American on this one. My first impressions tend to be correct most of the time.

          6. @sloth12 ‘well i’m English from London and i’d have thought he’d have known what i mean’t [sic.] by a liberal.’

            A native Englishman who doesn’t master his own mother tongue. Your clumsy syntax and your orthographic errors reveal your lack of formal education. You are a typical prole and it’s sad that your parents couldn’t afford to provide you with higher education. You remind of the smelly working class Germans I frequently bump into; they don’t master their own mother tongue either, i.e. frequently confusing das qua relative pronoun with dass/daß qua conjunction or they are totally clueless as to how to construct and incorporate the adjectival genitive into a sentence so as to enhance the flow of the language and make it as sexy as the German of Immanuel Kant. The great Immanuel Kant whose long and emotionless sentences – I once counted as many as 13 subclauses to one and the same sentence – gave me some of the hardest boners I ever had. Yes, I admit it, reading Kant makes me horny. You might think that these linguistic niceties are paltry matters, but it is the knowledge of nuances such as these that enable us to distinguish those who truly know from subaltern scum like you. Be that as it may, I am in love and having these good vibes disrupted by a pigheaded prole was quite an interesting experience. I think we should conclude this with some serene church music:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-LobuBiZnM

          7. “You can tell a lot about a person based upon how they use words, what words they use and how they put those words across and in what modes of thinking they utilise them.”

            This is puerile nonsense. Germany is the country of coincidentia oppositorum. Compare the prose of Christian Wolff to that of G.W. Hegel and you would think they were from two completely different galaxies, although they were both Germans.

          8. haha alois i’ve never claimed to be educated and everyome here knows my typos and mistakes which i often say i’ll leave in anyway because i’ve nothing to prove, you’re thone who claims to be an intellectual. Hey it’s great yr from london, whereabouts , i’d like to apologise to you for all this, maybe we can sit down and have a chat, i’ll buy you a drink, how about it buddy ? what’s yr local boozer? @alois

          9. @alois

            “This is puerile nonsense“.

            A bit of self reflection might be called for here.

            You made a number of comments wherein you picked apart Polluted based upon his use of words, what words he used and how he put those words across and then you arrived at a conclusion about him in sum of that information.

            If it is puerile nonsense you are guilty of the exact same thing.

            It would also be best if you did not compare prose like-for-like between people living in different centuries. It is not a balanced comparison to make and would be akin to comparing the prose between Agatha Christie and William Shakespeare.

            Even small gaps in time produce different speech patterns. Pre-World War 2 letter writing and word usage is different to post-World War 2 letter writing and word usage.

            I will also add that philosophers in particular have always gone out of their way to make themselves sound different and unique to that of their rivals. Pride and stubbornness often works its way into personal projection.

          10. @empty-soul Pointing out somebody’s level of education or culture based on a rudimentary philological analysis is a wholly uncontroversial approach, and that is what I did. You on the other hand claimed that you can geolocate someone on the basis of the views they espouse, and that is something completely different from what I did. If I presented you with passages from a political essay by Nabokov without identifying its author, there is no way you nor anyone else would be able to determine the fact that those were the words of a Russian; Nabokov was firmly entrenched in the British liberal-conservative tradition and he wrote better English than the natives of Britain. Furthermore, it has been shown by historians on many occasions that a class or classes of a given country co-opt or allow themselves to be co-opted by a foreign school of thought, and that again makes geolocation an extremely difficult or impossible task. Determining the time of the composition of a text with recourse to philological tools is no straightforward affair either, as there are people out there who are intentionally anachronistic with their language; for instance in my part of the world there are people who refuse to abide by the spelling reforms and they occasionally resuscitate words deemed lexically obsolete. If you had possessed just an iota of philological awareness, you would have noticed that my spelling is consistently British, which flies in the face of your thesis that I am an American. I stand by my previous remarks: what you wrote was puerile nonsense.

          11. @alois

            “Pointing out somebody’s level of education or culture based on a rudimentary philological analysis is a wholly uncontroversial approach, and that is what I did. You on the other hand claimed that you can geolocate someone on the basis of the views they espouse, and that is something completely different from what I did“.

            The above is nonsensical and only serves to show your own lack of intelligence.

            You dismiss my linguistic approach and overstate your own “philological analysis” approach when they are one and the same, both in their application and result.

            It is still the study of language and from that the estimation of the individual from excerpts. However, you only appear to accept and acknowledge this from a literary perspective which disregards all other empirically proven applications of it’s usage such as criminal psychology etc.

            In fact psychology in general is a field where human beings are taken apart and analysed regularly based upon the views they espouse and the words they use so I struggle to understand your difficulty in coming to terms with it.

            Your position own makes sense if I come to the conclusion that you didn’t even think that far or consider these aspects before you formed your opinion to begin with.

            Yours was a “rudimentary analysis” indeed.

            “If I presented you with passages from a political essay by Nabokov without identifying its author, there is no way you nor anyone else would be able to determine the fact that those were the words of a Russian”.

            You are working with extreme examples as your counter point whereas I was operating in averages.

            The highly educated, English speaking Nabokov is not your average Russian and comes across very differently to the average Russian just as the average English person comes across very differently to George Orwell for example.

            The point being that the more common the more commonality that exists.

            “Furthermore, it has been shown by historians on many occasions that a class or classes of a given country co-opt or allow themselves to be co-opted by a foreign school of thought, and that again makes geolocation an extremely difficult or impossible task“.

            I agree. That is why I had you down as being either American or a young British person who has consumed a lot of American culture because your over intellectualising of simple concepts into nonsensical talking points and your over reliance on historical figures to give your arguments weight without first taking into consideration the differences of their times is a common thought process among Americans and the young Americanised British of today.

            Anyone British and over 35 tends not to make arguments like that.

            Anyway. Geolocation only becomes difficult when trying to pinpoint to an exact area of a country. It is a far more simpler and easier task to pinpoint to a country of origin itself. It is for me anyway.

            Many serial killers have also been geolocated before using the letters they wrote and sent into the police and press. It is therefore far more common than you realise.

            “Determining the time of the composition of a text with recourse to philological tools is no straightforward affair either, as there are people out there who are intentionally anachronistic with their language”.

            A simple carbon dating of the text itself would solve that little mystery I would have thought. As would a simple cross referencing should the text be part of a larger collection of texts such as is often found with Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

            “If you had possessed just an iota of philological awareness, you would have noticed that my spelling is consistently British, which flies in the face of your thesis that I am an American. I stand by my previous remarks: what you wrote was puerile nonsense“.

            You really do like moving the goalposts don’t you.

            Here’s my exact quote that you are referring to,

            “Bum sex aside. I was under the impression that Alois was American or perhaps a young British person who has consumed a lot of American culture over the years because he comes across as Mid-Atlantic“.

            In the above I was right. You are a young British person who has consumed a lot of American culture over the years and it shows.

            As I said further above older British people come across differently because they didn’t grow up with the internet at their fingers and therefore have less American influence within them.

            Your biggest failure is that you focus too much on actual physical language use and not enough on the thought processes that go into using it.

            Language use doesn’t just pop out of thin air it is first thought about, mulled over and then spoken or written down. It is a manifestation of the mind, of the individual itself and as such it can be backtracked.

            I think my favourite part is this though,

            “I stand by my previous remarks: what you wrote was puerile nonsense”.

            Stubbornness in the face of counter logic and reason whilst maintaining and insisting that ones own arguments are purely logical. An insistence that others who argue against you are puerile and finally, the moving of goalposts to prevent being scored against.

            Here’s another puerile guess on my part but something tells me that you are in your early 20’s and belong to the lower end of the middle class. You are one of the youngest siblings in your family and you still live at home.

            At school you spent your lunchtimes at the library passing time because you struggled to find commonality with your peers and therefore had few people you could call a friend and even though you had little interest in much of the books that were there you nevertheless found solace in self isolation where you would put on your earphones and listen to your music of choice resigned to the fact that lunch would soon be over and back into cage you must go.

            I reckon I would be right on a few of those guesses.

          12. @empty-soul That was a rather amusing essay. I see you put lots of efforts into formulating your take on pop psychology, an undertaking as pointless as your own existence it would seem. Just two observations:

            (i) Your philological approach and mine are not the same because their object is not identical. Even the methodology is not identical, because I rely on the traditional tools, whereas you rely on your worthless pop psychology and conjecture.

            (ii) Proposing carbon-dating in the realm of philology is sheer idiocy, as the physical text dealt with could well be a copy of a copy. By your puerile logic, if one finds a Renaissance copy of Horace’s odes and carbon-dates that copy to the 14th century, that would make Horace a Renaissance bard.

            I hope you know how to tie your shoelaces in the very least.

          13. @alois

            “That was a rather amusing essay. I see you put lots of efforts into formulating your take on pop psychology, an undertaking as pointless as your own existence it would seem“.

            Lol. You’re not an expert or an authority in philology and probably have no expertise in the subject outside of hobbyist so it would be best if you dropped the “pop psychology” accusations as I have never claimed to have any such expertise in the subject in the first place and neither do you.

            All you are doing then is accusing someone of being a pseudo intellectual from a position of pseudo intellectualism. Not the brightest of moves if you ask me.

            “I rely on the traditional tools, whereas you rely on your worthless pop psychology and conjecture”.

            No. You rely on the smarts and hard work of others so as to lay claim to it and falsely position yourself as their equal when you are not.

            Being able to use a computer for example does not put you on equal footing to those who created it. Even a monkey can mimic and make use of things already there, it is not something to be smug and proud over.

            “Proposing carbon-dating in the realm of philology is sheer idiocy, as the physical text dealt with could well be a copy of a copy. By your puerile logic, if one finds a Renaissance copy of Horace’s odes and carbon-dates that copy to the 14th century, that would make Horace a Renaissance bard“.

            Oh God. Here we go again with your selective reading and goalpost moving.

            Here is the actual quote you are referring to,

            “A simple carbon dating of the text itself would solve that little mystery I would have thought. As would a simple cross referencing should the text be part of a larger collection of texts such as is often found with Socrates, Plato and Aristotle“.

            You seem to have conveniently left out this part,

            “As would a simple cross referencing should the text be part of a larger collection of texts such as is often found with Socrates, Plato and Aristotle”.

            So all in all you just pissed your pants over a point that I had already addressed and answered.

            The rest of your comment was, to use your own words, puerile nonsense.

            “an undertaking as pointless as your own existence”.

            “I hope you know how to tie your shoelaces in the very least”.

            Yes, yes. Well, I guess it served a purpose even if that purpose was a small insignificant one such as making yourself feel a little bit smarter and a little bit more superior to a complete stranger on the internet.

            The more I read your comments and the more you move the goalposts and conveniently skip over things the more sure I am that my original guesswork is correct.

        1. @sloth12 I welcome debate, because I believe dialectical strife to be good for us all. But debate is no straightforward affair. A public dispute between Noam Chomsky and Slavoj Zizek is highly instructive in this regard. Chomsky as an American is beholden to the British common sense tradition, whereas Zizek as a Slovenian considers German philosophy to be fundamental to his output. Chomsky publicly criticised Zizek and said that his writings were utter nonsense. The only problem is that Chomsky has a chronic aversion to German philosophy; he even takes great pride in pointing out that he never really read Marx because he finds him boring. Clues as to why Chomsky dislikes all things German can be found in his childhood: as a Jew he grew up in a neighbourhood primarily of German immigrants who subjected the Chomsky family to antisemitic taunts virtually on a daily basis. That Chomsky doesn’t like the Germans is not an issue as far as I am concerned, but what I do find objectionable is that he deems himself qualified to criticise the output of Zizek without ever having engaged with the philosophical tradition which serves as its theoretical foundation. What unfolded was a rather embarrassing spat between two public figures: Chomsky would call Zizek’s writings rubbish and Zizek would taunt him back by pointing out he got the body count in Cambodia all wrong. Here it must be emphasised that Zizek was as shameless in his conduct as Chomsky was: the inclusion of erroneous quantitative data does in no way undermine one’s argument as whole. It was an exercise in talking past one another and it was a wretched spectacle. My point is that if two public intellectuals can be so childish in their dealings with one another, we should expect no better here on bestgore.

          Thanks for your invitation, but I don’t think I will be visiting England in a while.

          1. yes i can see it must be hard for an intellect such as yourself to post a comment only to discover that everyone has jumped on my comment which is similar. I can only suggest that persoanlity has a lot do to with these things. i leave typos and mistakes for you to count as i know it is an enjoyable passtime

          2. That particular hypothesis of yours is plain wrong. I do not crave replies to my comments and I couldn’t care less if you get more replies than I do. I even deleted a dozen of my so-called friends here on bestgore, because I have no idea who they are – some have even changed their user names. Surely it would make sense to befriend everyone on bestgore if it really were my aim to get as many people as possible to read my comments. You are very, very wrong, and I suspect that you have been drinking alcohol.

            Oh, by the way, pastime is with one s only. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, gotcha again motherfucker. Persoanality may have been on purpose.

          3. My degree isn’t good enough to wipe my ass with, but I most certainly got a boner reading your ‘composition’ Thanks @alois 🙂 … yet, I must insist you don’t pick on his spelling . House rules!

          4. I don’t drink, smoke or do drugs, you on the other hand go on drink and drug binges as you’ve mentioned before so who’s the junkie ? Who’s the one so uncomfortable with himself he has to frazzle his brain for a week at a time because he can’t connect with people ?
            You’re full of self pity and it shows in your comments. Of course you were triggered by people not replying to you otherwise you wouldn’t have gone on about it so much.
            People like myself who aren’t educated are not stupid, we just didn’t go to uni. I can see right through you from that very first comment which showed how butt hurt you were to the latest criticising grammatical and spelling mistakes which were thrown in to deflect from my comments revealing your emotional immaturity. I don’t need drugs, i face life’s problems and tackle them. I don’t need to get high to cope. Spelling and grammar don’t teach you that. You’re weak.

      2. @empty-soul “the more sure I am that my original guesswork is correct.”

        That’s the key word here: guesswork. In other words, all the effort you are putting into this is no more than idle guesswork, and your ‘female’ intuition is not serving you too well I’m afraid. It would be easier to train a monkey than to knock sense into people like you.

        1. @alois

          “That’s the key word here: guesswork. In other words, all the effort you are putting into this is no more than idle guesswork”.

          And……………………we are back to the very beginning again when you were using guesswork to mock polluted.

          To conclude then, your guesswork is fine and dandy but no one else is allowed to do it. Ok. Understood.

          Unless of course you are attempting to convince me that you had solid facts at your disposal when making personal conclusions about him?. You would probably just move the goalposts again I suspect and start going down the train of thought that mine was an ignorant, ill-educated guess whilst yours was an educated one.(yawn)

          “and your ‘female’ intuition is not serving you too well I’m afraid. It would be easier to train a monkey than to knock sense into people like you“.

          Your argument took damage so rather than dig the hole deeper and risk further damage you fall back into personal insults.

          Why stop at my “female” intuition?. I am probably gay as well to go along with being a monkey. No doubt I wear womens underwear and suck donkey balls as well.

          I am also retarded and smell and a complete and utter failure in life.

          It becomes far easier to dismiss me and ignore everything I say if one holds the above to be true, even if it is just a self-defence mechanism utilised to fend off unwanted challenge on your part.

          Anyhow. I get the point that you wish to go no further with these back and forth arguments and it’s not like either one of us is going to give in anyway so its probably best if we just move on from this.

          Its not like I have a personal stake in this after all. Just looking for fun and I find arguments to be fun.

          1. @empty-soul You are getting the very basics wrong once again. I was not engaging in guesswork as here was a man who had openly admitted to being a construction worker, i.e. he was candid about his subalternity, and who subsequently admitted to his lack of education as well. My approach was wholly uncontroversial precisely because I was utilising a philological method outlined by Gramsci, according to which educated men abide by normative grammar, whereas the grammar of the subaltern classes tends to be spontaneous and susceptible to errors. I am quite forgiving when it comes to spelling errors, but there are certain errors in writing that are caused neither by mistyping nor by the words automatically suggested by your device. And if you commit such errors and attack others on literary grounds, you deserve a backlash, which is precisely what happened in this case.

          2. @alois

            He revealed himself before you and you merely took receipt of that information hence no guesswork involved.

            Lol. Good one.

            I also note your over reliance on statements such as,

            “You are getting the very basics wrong once again“.

            Its like Sherlock Holmes for toddlers.

            Using words like “the very basics” and “rudimentary” does not automatically give your argument intellectual weight. It just serves to spoil it if there is no actual genius hidden within it.

            If all you’re going to do is scramble around desperately in an attempt to plug the gaps of your own argument whilst hiding behind intellectualisms it might be best to stop and move on.

          3. @empty-soul I didn’t need to engage in any guesswork, from which it follows that what I said rests on a secure foundation. You on the other hand engaged mostly in risible guesswork and all of it was wide off the mark. Rub that crystal ball of yours a bit harder the next time you engage with me.

          4. @alois

            “I didn’t need to engage in any guesswork, from which it follows that what I said rests on a secure foundation“.

            The following comment of yours contains quite a bit of guesswork and also attempts to extract character and intent from words,

            “The grandmother of a lady I know would lock all her kids up in the basement because she was afraid she would murder them. She suffered from postpartum trauma and actually loved her kids. This lady’s words “I’ll let you die to go to heaven” don’t suggest that she feels any animosity towards them. A possible mental condition, the humiliation of divorce in a Muslim society, economic hardships as a lone mother, and almost certain repatriation to Somalia: these are factors that may have triggered her erratic behaviour. I suspect that her renegade spouse is a scumbag as well. What the fuck is he doing in Yemen while his kids are in Saudi Arabia?”.

            It is full of speculation and words like “may have” and “I suspect”.

            Are you telling me that the following rests upon a secure foundation?,

            “This lady’s words “I’ll let you die to go to heaven” don’t suggest that she feels any animosity towards them. A possible mental condition, the humiliation of divorce in a Muslim society, economic hardships as a lone mother, and almost certain repatriation to Somalia: these are factors that may have triggered her erratic behaviour. I suspect that her renegade spouse is a scumbag as well”.

            Considering that the above level of detail was not present in the video I don’t see how you could have built the above on facts alone.

            You also said to Polluted,

            “I never implied that you stole my views, but you gave the impression that you were the only dissenting voice here. And I take great pride in writing without emotion. Emotions are your main handicap, dude“.

            “you gave the impression” is an inference derived from his word usage.

            There was also this,

            “A native Englishman who doesn’t master his own mother tongue. Your clumsy syntax and your orthographic errors reveal your lack of formal education. You are a typical prole and it’s sad that your parents couldn’t afford to provide you with higher education. You remind of the smelly working class Germans I frequently bump into”.

            How do you know that he doesn’t have an higher education based upon his English usage?. Equally, how can one say that someone with proficient English was gifted with an higher education?.

            There are many immigrants for example who have proficient English without the higher education because they are self taught and determined. Equally, there are many educated people whose English is not of an high level because they choose to excel in fields outside of that requirement and often to the detriment of it.

            “You remind of the smelly working class Germans I frequently bump into” is another massive pile of guesswork on your part because you are making inferences towards the education level of working class people which is a sloppy inference to make considering that many working class people are grammar school educated.

            You know, it would have been far easier to shut me down had you taken the stance that guesswork is OK and allowable on an informal website like Bestgore but unacceptable in the field of academia. That way you could have nullified my argument whilst protecting your own.

            As it stands though by placing tight restrictions on what I can and cannot do it automatically applied to yourself as well and since you are only human and not infallible you ended up getting caught in your own trap.

            For future reference the best way to keep yourself undamaged is to allow people freedom in informal settings, and that includes for yourself, whilst pointing out the flaws of the argument should it be analysed in a formal academic setting.

        2. @empty-soul You continue to make the same basic errors. Conjecture is perfectly legitimate if it is qualified with modular verbs such as ‘might’ or ‘could’. Something altogether different is to say ‘I think you are X; therefore you m u s t be X.’ Your most serious shortcoming is your inability to fathom these modular nuances.

          1. @alois

            Oxford Dictionary definition,

            Conjecture,

            “An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information”.

            In other words, guesswork. You know, the opposite of facts.

            The difference between guesswork and conjecture being that the latter is formal use and usually requires some level of added support. In other words, it means “educated guess“.

            Its funny you mentioned my crystal ball before because once again I saw this coming ages ago.

            Here is a quote from my previous comment,

            “Unless of course you are attempting to convince me that you had solid facts at your disposal when making personal conclusions about him?. You would probably just move the goalposts again I suspect and start going down the train of thought that mine was an ignorant, ill-educated guess whilst yours was an educated one.(yawn)”.

            So here we are. My opinion was guesswork but yours was conjecture(yawn) even though we were both analysing comments with incomplete information and forming opinions on the person making them.

            I can’t believe that I have been reduced to playing pass-the-semantics like a child at a birthday party. You know what, I am going to start calling my own guesswork conjecture from now on as well, lol.

            However, we both know that you will just move the goalposts once again and state that I am ill-equipped to be able to use conjecture for (fill in the blanks) reasons and that I am forever destined to be operating within the realms of guesswork thus placing me forever behind you and your “conjecture”.

            I grow very tired of all this infantile babble of yours and feel my sanity slipping away.

          2. @empty-soul Exactly, conjecture is based on incomplete facts and that is why you interpolate conjectural statements with modular verbs such as ‘may’ or ‘could’ as I do. In other words, you didn’t refute me at all. What you did do was to once again demonstrate your own ineptitude with regard to modular nuances. I am seriously beginning to feel sorry for you now. I suggest that you write another essay about my horrible personality; please make it as long as possible.

          3. @alois

            No. I am going to stop now.

            You win. I surrender.

            I know full well that you will never ever yield. You will move the goalposts a thousand times if you have to and throw semantics after semantics at me whilst changing the meanings each and every time to suit your own purposes.

            Nobody can win against the above.

            You are insurmountable. I salute you.

          4. @alois

            Oh dear God no. I am about to add another comment into the insanity that is already present here despite my better senses.

            I alarm myself with this one and yet I am beginning to fall into masochistic tendencies as a result of my current drunken boredom so here goes,

            In regards to your following comment,

            “You are a typical prole and it’s sad that your parents couldn’t afford to provide you with higher education”.

            The above comment doesn’t contain any “modular verbs” that you hold all so dear to you, only absolutes, so is the above comment “guesswork” or “conjecture” on your part given that under your own retrospectively applied and forever changing rules one must use modular verbs to establish conjecture as opposed to mere “guesswork”?.

            It most definitely was not facts because you did not have them when you made the above statement.

            Please elaborate. You never know, an ignorant cunt like me may learn a thing or two.

          5. @empty-soul

            Welcome back. I suspect that there is more than just ‘drunken boredom’ behind your reappearance; erratic movements of the bile could well have something to do with your contradiction of your former resolution. I will be more than happy to clarify the matter, but I find it unfair that I am deriving no benefits whatsoever from this encounter. Therefore, before we proceed to the subject matter proposed by you, I would like you to clarify the following to me:

            ‘You can tell a lot about a person based upon how they use words, what words they use and how they put those words across and in what modes of thinking they utilise them. […] In the absence of any new facts I am still sticking with American on this one.’

            Your hunch regarding my Americanness was particularly strong, since you upheld its primacy despite the fact that my orthography is British. Would you be so kind and provide me with five, or just three, textual examples of my ‘modes of thinking’ that made you believe I am an American, or a Briton for that matter?

            Once we have this out of our way, I will be addressing the issue raised by you.

            Thanks in advance.

          6. @alois

            “Would you be so kind and provide me with five, or just three, textual examples of my ‘modes of thinking’ that made you believe I am an American, or a Briton for that matter?”.

            I was operating on guesswork, not conjecture as you pointed out previously because I do not see the need to push added conditionality on myself when talking shit on random websites.

            In real life it is different of course and I am not able to proceed in my job or life etc without some facts at my disposal thus such guesswork would have to remain in my head and not announced.

            Bestgore however is not a place of scientific discovery within academia nor is it a court of law so stringent rules are not applied to thought patterns here therefore I am free to guess to my heart’s content.

            You are right though. There is more than just ‘drunken boredom’ behind my reappearance and the contradiction of my former resolution and that ‘more’ is that I find your madness curiously appealing so much so that I wish to dive into it and search the lower areas.

            It intrigues me how you move goalposts without even a wince and how you retroactively apply motives and principles to your own words and statements without even a cough.

            It also intrigues me how you selectively read statements and on purposely skip over and omit things that would get in the way of your current arguments.

            The way you avoid answering points related to previous arguments by positioning the argument differently each and every time so as to reframe the entire thing rather than address it is absolutely brilliant.

            Usually the above sort of thing is the behaviour of someone with borderline autism but you come across relatively functional.

            It is in the above that I find myself wondering, how does one who places such stringent rules on himself and others regardless of the setting find statements such as,

            “You are a typical prole and it’s sad that your parents couldn’t afford to provide you with higher education”.

            -to be within the rules of conjecture that he has set for himself.

            Guesswork is out of the picture because guesswork was previously scoffed at. Facts are also out of the picture because one did not have actual access to the information required to know such things absolutely and since modular verbs were a requirement set for any and all conjecture it left me with an itch that I couldn’t help but to keep on scratching knowing full well the prolonged misery it would bring.

            I am a fool to myself I guess.

            Anyhow the reason why I thought you were an American or a young Americanised British person is because you bend the rules for yourself whilst boxing in everybody else with rules and red tape.

            You also rely too much on intellectualisms and semantics and hide behind prominent thinkers so much so that your own arguments and ideas become lost and indistinguishable from that of the prominent thinkers. In other words there is no ‘you’ in any of your arguments and what comes forth is other peoples ideas and arguments that you have attached yourself to and defend to the death.

            Your lack of personal identity then and your over reliance on other people and other things to give you shape and form is very much that of the modern British/American generation. I leaned towards the British side however as a result of your comments regarding lower class people, that was a very British comment to make.

            There were many other smaller details as well that went into it however it was all just guesswork on my part. The same way I thought that you were perhaps in your early 20’s and probably from Edinburgh or somewhere near about and are lower middle class.

            Again, on Bestgore I am allowed to engage in such thinly conceived guesswork so no foul made on my part.

            Your turn. Would you be so kind as to address the issue I raised.

          7. @empty-soul

            If you had been an attractive young lady, I would have been flattered by your attempts at delving into my lower regions, but since you are some middle-aged bloke, or perhaps even a retired gentleman, I find your endeavours to be somewhat creepy. I am also left with the impression that you feel that some sort of injustice has been done to you, given your recurring complaint about goalposts that are consistently being moved. Nothing of this sort has happened and any zigzag movement is owing to the murky or frivolous nature of the subject matter. One could just as easily have levelled this accusation at you, considering how you wavered between the British and the American thesis and at one point even gave the impression of being dead sure as to my Americanness, and now you are content to concede that it was all idle guesswork, which moreover was all wrong. Your other complaint about the selective refutation of the arguments of one’s opponent is just as groundless: under no circumstances should you be a expecting, let alone have the indecency to demand, a point-by-point engagement by your opponent if large portions of your text are no more than trivial speculations regarding what kind of a person your opponent might be. If I did dwell on your suggestion regarding carbon-dating, it was because it was ridiculous and if I refrained from dwelling on the points that were mentioned in addition, it was because we were principally in agreement. Any disagreement in this regard was not of a principal nature; rather it pertained to the difficulty of the task. I claimed that textual analysis is no straightforward affair, whereas you gave the impression that it was merely a matter of facilely applying a given set of philological algorithms. Your complaint regarding retroactive deduction is inane as well; one does not annex explications regarding one’s motives to every statement that one makes. All one can do is to offer post hoc clarifications if any enquiries in regard to the matter a made. If any such clarification does not satisfy your desire to score cheap debating points than that is your problem and nobody else’s. Erasmus Montanus the village simpleton, a character from a Danish comedy by Ludwig Holberg, went to the city and acquired knowledge of mental tools that he thought would enable him to unlock the secrets of the world. When he returned to his village, he would clumsily wield these tools in every direction, as you are now doing with what I explained to you regarding modular nuances. I have acquired a habit of expressing myself in a somewhat convoluted manner: for instance, instead of saying ‘butthurt much?’ as a philistine would, I say ‘erratic movements of the bile’ and instead of ‘fuck you and fuck your illiterate whore of a mother’, I say ‘you are a typical prole and it’s sad that your parents couldn’t afford to provide you with higher education.’ Let’s face it: ‘your mother is a whore’ could have some sting to it, whereas ‘your mother m i g h t be a whore’ sounds downright ridiculous. What you have done is to take a regulative principle so much to the extreme that you think it applies to insults as well and thus joined the ranks of Erasmus Montanus and his ilk. Lastly, your reflections on what constitutes Americanness are so general as to be utterly worthless. Applying one set of principles oneself and a different set of principles to another is so universal a vice that to empahsise it as something typically American is an exercise is mental laziness. As for writing in such a way that the presence of the personality behind the words makes itself felt, Tocqueville viewed this inclination, which you seem to uphold as an ideal, as one of the most embarrassing American traits. The American, according to Tocqueville, can’t help engaging in pompous posturing and goes out of his way to prove that there is a persona behind the words. This risible inclination can be seen in the case of popular American culture as well, e.g. the ridiculous monologues of Al Pacino, the cringe-inducing speech attributed to a captured German general in some war movie, or the self-congratulatory ramblings of a Kanye West. In contradicting Tocqueville, you have merely confirmed what he said regarding the Americans.

          8. @alois

            Yep. You did it again. Also, for someone who emphases correct language use as much as you do you could have at least used some paragraphs instead of dumping a huge text wall.

            Anyway. At least you answered my questions this time, albeit unintentionally.

            “I have acquired a habit of expressing myself in a somewhat convoluted manner: for instance, instead of saying ‘butthurt much?’ as a philistine would, I say ‘erratic movements of the bile’ and instead of ‘fuck you and fuck your illiterate whore of a mother’, I say ‘you are a typical prole and it’s sad that your parents couldn’t afford to provide you with higher education.’ Let’s face it: ‘your mother is a whore’ could have some sting to it, whereas ‘your mother m i g h t be a whore’ sounds downright ridiculous. What you have done is to take a regulative principle so much to the extreme that you think it applies to insults as well and thus joined the ranks of Erasmus Montanus and his ilk“.

            At first I thought that you might be eccentric which is where my interest in you lay however the above shows you to be someone who cares deeply about how he come across to others and has carefully sculpted a persona for himself in order to make a certain impression on those around him.

            Take “I have acquired a habit of expressing myself in a somewhat convoluted manner” for example.

            Anyone who knows and is aware and has control over what it is they’re doing and still does it is not acting out of habit, they are choosing to act that way on purpose.

            This is further broken down with the following,

            “for instance, instead of saying ‘butthurt much?’ as a philistine would, I say ‘erratic movements of the bile’ and instead of ‘fuck you and fuck your illiterate whore of a mother’, I say ‘you are a typical prole and it’s sad that your parents couldn’t afford to provide you with higher education.’ Let’s face it: ‘your mother is a whore’ could have some sting to it, whereas ‘your mother m i g h t be a whore’ sounds downright ridiculous“.

            You have gone to meticulous lengths to come across the way you do right down to the smallest detail, even on topics as unimportant as insults.

            “for instance, instead of saying ‘butthurt much?’ as a philistine would, I say ‘erratic movements of the bile’.

            In the above comment you first separated yourself from the ‘unwashed masses’ by attaching the use of bottom barrel insults to the ’philistines’ and then set about finding a different manner of speech to insult with that would put you above those ’philistines’.

            The following,

            “Let’s face it: ‘your mother is a whore’ could have some sting to it, whereas ‘your mother m i g h t be a whore’ sounds downright ridiculous”.

            -shows that you are engaging in this type of image projecting because you are clearly aware of how you are wanting to come across to people at all times.

            “As for writing in such a way that the presence of the personality behind the words makes itself felt, Tocqueville viewed this inclination, which you seem to uphold as an ideal, as one of the most embarrassing American traits. The American, according to Tocqueville, can’t help engaging in pompous posturing and goes out of his way to prove that there is a persona behind the words“.

            Perhaps I was right about you being Americanised after all then because you have shown the level of detail you put into your own self image and how you go out of your way to appear the way you do to others which falls under pompous posturing I would have thought.

            To think you were mocking persona style interaction from a position of persona style interaction all this time.

            I was always wondering why you didn’t appear to make any sense on a human level but when one looks at it from the perspective of your façade it becomes better understood.

            Anyhow. At least you will be happy to know that my interest in you is now gone and I won’t be bothering you anymore.

  12. … I have a confession. I winced once or twice and even felt bad at the end watching that baby being choked… then I read all of your comments and it brought the smile back to my face. Thank you for community for bringing me joy.

  13. i admit to really disliking kids, but come on, i would never hit them.
    sheesh. i mean, honestly, why would you *want* to get a kid crying? that has to be the most rage inducing sound in the world. i’d be doing everything in my power to avoid that, not cause it.
    and, joking aside, you can really fuck a kid up hitting them in the head. that’s not cool. this entire video is just, just sad. 🙁

  14. Only women are capable of such cruelty? Fucking bullshit. That form of cruelty is common in men. Just look at the wars they start, genocide is still the man’s ideas, abusing women and children are all on men. Quit blaming women for the same shit men do at a much higher rate.

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